Presidential debate...are you for Trump or Clinton...

Sistine Chapel, your blind hatred for The Trump is pretty funny. I even saw your posts on the political forum. Trump won last night and there's nothing wrong with drinking water and having the sniffles. When did drinking water become something bad and judgemental? Sniffles you say? Ever heard of allergy season? Funny how people want to question his health at the debate but when the crazy old bitch damn near kicks the bucket and gets dragged into a vehicle we're wrong for questioning that.

As a businessman, Trump held back and sized up his opponent. You never show your hand in the first round of negotiations. Did you notice when they called him a sexist he held back on bringing up Bill? That zinger would've killed her but you hold off on that and bring it up when there's a smaller window to recover from that.

Yea I sound like a pro-Trump kind of guy but I'm not. I'm just a realist and will call any candidate on their bullshit. Trump would get my vote just because it's the last chance we get as the people to show that we won't bow down to the globalist/elitist/Illuminati/yadayada bullshit anymore. Hillary gets into office and fuck going to war in other countries I'm pretty sure civil unrest will kick off here.

Sistine Chapel, your blind hatred for The Trump is pretty funny. I even saw your posts on the political forum. Trump won last night and there's nothing wrong with drinking water and having the sniffles. When did drinking water become something bad and judgemental? Sniffles you say? Ever heard of allergy season? Funny how people want to question his health at the debate but when the crazy old bitch damn near kicks the bucket and gets dragged into a vehicle we're wrong for questioning that.

As a businessman, Trump held back and sized up his opponent. You never show your hand in the first round of negotiations. Did you notice when they called him a sexist he held back on bringing up Bill? That zinger would've killed her but you hold off on that and bring it up when there's a smaller window to recover from that.

Yea I sound like a pro-Trump kind of guy but I'm not. I'm just a realist and will call any candidate on their bullshit. Trump would get my vote just because it's the last chance we get as the people to show that we won't bow down to the globalist/elitist/Illuminati/yadayada bullshit anymore. Hillary gets into office and fuck going to war in other countries I'm pretty sure civil unrest will kick off here. Originally Posted by Fishpie

^ not true regarding blind hatred; my dislike for Trump is very focused and explainable. I simply don't cut for lazy and incompetent all of which he exemplifies to the nth (nth) degree. You witnessed Trump broadcasting to his already locked in base while Hillary smartly narrowcasted to Independents in swing States and to Bernie's youth coalition. In his book 'Art of the Deal' he lays it out in black and white and I quote from his book:

“I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular." (pg. 58) - Donald Trump

and then there's this:

All I gotta say... is they both suck, equally, and the debate, sucked as well. A better moderator was needed.

Oh, and...

https://instagram.com/p/BK2DkJgg77W/

You watched the Debate? You just wasted 1.5hrs of your time along with 80 million+ other morons.

You watched the Debate? You just wasted 1.5hrs of your time along with 80 million+ other morons. Originally Posted by Back2HoustonHobby

I recorded it but only watched 25 minutes. It seems like every time Hitlerly attacked Trump he would retort her accusations. But when Trump attacked Hitlerly she wanted you to look at her website.
Isn't that the same crap Obama did at the debates? Never could answer a straight question but look at my website for "hope and change".

http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.c...3604340548.jpg

Youre on the right track Jemma.
Alex Jones makes a lot of good points, covers many issues not even mentioned by mainstream media.
The left vs. right paradigm is an illusion.
Tyranny vs. liberty is whats really at stake.
I wont participate in such a corrupt process.
I value my privacy, my liberty, and having to buy it back from the man (or woman) which ever...in the form of licenses and permits is disgusting to me.
The rabbit hole goes very deep and is not a comfortable place for many who are not ready to take the red pill. Originally Posted by Smoke2nd

Well said.

I've only been watching Alex for a few weeks, but I am obsessed with how ballsy he is. It's not just the debate itself, it's everything around the world. I personally like David Icke even though some of his points are a little far fetched. However, he has been right in the past so I wonder if the reptilian shape shifting conspiracy is an actual fact. It had my eyes opened though and I may sound insane for thinking it could be realistic.

I recorded it but only watched 25 minutes. It seems like every time Hitlerly attacked Trump he would retort her accusations. But when Trump attacked Hitlerly she wanted you to look at her website.
Isn't that the same crap Obama did at the debates? Never could answer a straight question but look at my website for "hope and change". Originally Posted by zerodahero

LMAO! Hitler and Hillary...haha! I mean she does have the exact same campaign slogan as Hitler. Only a few actually caught this point when she first ran for president.

I noticed that the "unbiased" moderator Lester injected himself in the debate. When he was not "injecting himself", he was covering for Clinton, as all her liberal media pals do. Trump didn't just faced off with Clinton but against Holt as well. He never asked Hillary on Benghazi, about her emails, or even a The Clinton Foundation. Instead he just grilled Trump.

Well said.

I've only been watching Alex for a few weeks, but I am obsessed with how ballsy he is. It's not just the debate itself, it's everything around the world. I personally like David Icke even though some of his points are a little far fetched. However, he has been right in the past so I wonder if the reptilian shape shifting conspiracy is an actual fact. It had my eyes opened though and I may sound insane for thinking it could be realistic. Originally Posted by Jemma Martin

David Icke...wow, he is out there and has some crazy sounding ideas, but yeah he has been spot on on some things.
Yeah, i cant figure out the whole reptilian thing. Maybe the Anunaki are the ones.
Alex Jones kinda opened my eyes to the whole 911 official story and how absurd it is...back in 2004.
Who knows anything for sure.
A few years ago I was certain that man landed on the moon. And a few months ago I was certain that the earth is spherical....now...i have my doubts.
Im glad your mind is open, and that you are not a common sheep.

^ not true regarding blind hatred; my dislike for Trump is very focused and explainable. I simply don't cut for lazy and incompetent all of which he exemplifies to the nth (nth) degree. You witnessed Trump broadcasting to his already locked in base while Hillary smartly narrowcasted to Independents in swing States and to Bernie's youth coalition. In his book 'Art of the Deal' he lays it out in black and white and I quote from his book:



and then there's this:

Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel

Care to bring me up to speed on how he's "lazy and incompetent"? I'm in a big Bernie FB group and lots of them retards are anti-Hillary. They keep pushing to either write Bernie in or to vote Jill Stein. They even laugh at Johnson being a candidate. I think that's the only intelligent thing I have seen in that group since being added.

Why do people post that video to use against Trump? He doesn't endorse her. He just likes her. Same thing with celebrities. You may like a certain actor for their work but that doesn't mean you like them as a person in their personal life.


If he's bullshitting the whole country what's his end game?

I don't really like either candidate but I can't stand that fucking smug bitch Hillary. My vote will go to the anti Hillary, the lesser politician and hopefully the candidate that is more economically savvy.

The questions were one sided for sure. Media clearly wants Clinton.

I did like Trump saying 30 years and your just now thinking about solutions.

Ron White for President!! http://ronwhiteforpresident.com/
"You can't fix stupid"

Care to bring me up to speed on how he's "lazy and incompetent"? I'm in a big Bernie FB group and lots of them retards are anti-Hillary. They keep pushing to either write Bernie in or to vote Jill Stein. They even laugh at Johnson being a candidate. I think that's the only intelligent thing I have seen in that group since being added.

Why do people post that video to use against Trump? He doesn't endorse her. He just likes her. Same thing with celebrities. You may like a certain actor for their work but that doesn't mean you like them as a person in their personal life.


If he's bullshitting the whole country what's his end game? Originally Posted by Fishpie

My advice to you is that if you're going to have such strong opinions at least follow the issues and be informed. Even though there are many areas of proven incompetence from Donald (economics, foreign policy, social) to name a few I will share with you a good no spin example.

He said not long ago that “US wages are too high and we have to compete with other countries.” and it's a totally inept view since wage cuts in a recovering economy is ABSOLUTELY the wrong answer. Since we sell most of our own products domestically wage cuts would undermine our sales, reduce purchase power, and increase (non government) private sector debt. It's not the answer and Trump proved he simply doesn't understand basic business & economics which are different entities. It also shows he's had smart people doing work for him and he's never really done anything for himself. Now that he's opening his mouth he's exposing what a dummy he truly is; his 6 bankruptcies notwithstanding. ;-)

During the debate he railed on and on about the TPP and even NAFTA and how we should be fighting for yesteryear US manufacturing jobs; lol (keeping companies in the US) while at the same time competing in the global market; and yet he thinks lower US wages is the answer? HAHA! yeah right. Lower wages is the 'answer' to a businesses bottom line and that's why many US companies are leaving. Those type of jobs are basically gone and it's time to look at being a leader in other emerging markets ahead of the new era gold rush. He doesn't understand things and this is just one area.

Foreign policy is another. He said at the Commander -in-Chief town hall last week that he would pull out of NATO and abandon our allies and partners. Let me ask you do you personally understand the consequences of that type of move? Especially as it relates to the war on terror? If not educate yourself on it. He fundamentally puts the US at risk across every category and he's too lazy to try and understand how the world works since he's been living in an entertainment (Kim Kardashian like TV) and real estate bubble.

In fact after 126 years of hardcore strict Republican voting the Arizona Republic for the first time ever is endorsing a Democrat for President. These are far right tea party type folks and they've had enough of Trump's lies. Here's a quote:

Yet despite her flaws, Clinton is the superior choice. She does not casually say things that embolden our adversaries and frighten our allies. Her approach to governance is mature, confident and rational. Trump responds to criticism with the petulance of verbal spit wads. That’s beneath our national dignity. When the president of the United States speaks, the world expects substance. Not a blistering tweet.

Trump’s conversion to conservatism is recent and unconvincing. Hillary Clinton has long been a centrist. Despite her tack left to woo Bernie Sanders supporters, Clinton retains her centrist roots. Her justices might not be in the mold of Antonin Scalia, but they will be accomplished individuals with the experience, education and intelligence to handle the job. They will be competent. Just as she is competent.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/opini...ment/91198668/

Here's the thing, I could counter some of the things you said but can we agree on this, how often has a candidate said whatever to get in office only for something else to take place? Clinton/Trump and the others are saying whatever but how much will really happen? Bottom line to me about Trump, he's going to find a way to fill his pockets up but he can't do that without the middle class getting some of that pie as well. He's not a war profiteer so I doubt he'll be willing to engage in more conflict. Clinton can't be more obvious about the devious shit she has in store, the Commies speak for themselves, and Johnson just fits the retard pothead stereotype.

I have disliked Hillary since she thought she was The Assistant President under hubby Bill and tried to reform Healthcare back then. She has only gotten worse with time.

The Donald belongs back on Reality TV, not running the USA. I initially supported him, but he has shown he has nothing but his bluster to offer.

I voted for Dr. Ben Carson in the Republican Primary. Of course, a level headed, non-power hungry, intelligent man didn't stand a chance.

So, I'm trying to decide whether to vote for Pedro or Obi-wan Kanobe.

I may be wasting my vote, but there is no way I will vote for Hillary or The Donald.

Bottom line to me about Trump, he's going to find a way to fill his pockets up but he can't do that without the middle class getting some of that pie as well. Originally Posted by Fishpie

^ please explain how.