Mazars says Trump's “Statements of Financial Condition from 2011-2020 can no longer be relied on" and must be retracted.

  • Tiny
  • 02-15-2022, 08:22 AM
From the NY Times yesterday


In the letter, Mazars noted that the firm had not “as a whole” found material discrepancies between the information the Trump Organization provided and the actual value of Mr. Trump’s assets. But given what it called “the totality of circumstances,” the letter directed the Trump Organization to notify anyone who received the statements that they should no longer rely on them. Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought
The link I posted is the actual letter. It doesn’t mention “the actual value of Mr. Trump’s assets.” Or anything like that.
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So much smoke coming out of the Trump Organization. What are they covering up ? What conspiracy theory are they trying to hatch now ?
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What Aboutism and the 5 Ds of dumbassery.

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The link I posted is the actual letter. It doesn’t mention “the actual value of Mr. Trump’s assets.” Or anything like that. Originally Posted by Tiny
when presenting personal balance sheet (statement of condition is the term used for a personal statement)

they are to be prepared using estimated current values

this is opposed to financial statements of an entity, which if in keeping with GAAP, is done on historical cost

so there might not be a mention of actual value, but there was of "no material discrepancies taken as a whole"

its a given and should be understood that "no material discrepancies taken as a whole" are determined by comparing the statement of financial condition to actual values as of the date of the statement

thats a given, what else would no material discrepancies apply to?
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Yay, today’s serving of ‘Trump is finished’. Don’t you guys ever get tired of looking like fools?
  • Tiny
  • 02-15-2022, 09:04 AM
when presenting personal balance sheet (statement of condition is the term used for a personal statement)

they are to be prepared using estimated current values

this is opposed to financial statements of an entity, which if in keeping with GAAP, is done on historical cost

so there might not be a mention of actual value, but there was of "no material discrepancies taken as a whole"

its a given and should be understood that "no material discrepancies taken as a whole" are determined by comparing the statement of financial condition to actual values as of the date of the statement

thats a given, what else would no material discrepancies apply to? Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought
Good points. I’ve prepared a statement of net worth for the banks before but have never gotten an accountant to sign off on it. So I don’t know what checks they make, if any, on the FMV of properties and businesses.

Maybe Mazars accepted estimates of FMV provided by the Trump Organization but don’t want to stand behind them now. That could be because they don’t think the values are reasonable. Or maybe they do think they’re reasonable but don’t want to back up Trump in his battle with the attorney general, as they’re afraid the AG will come after them.
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Mazars decides they are dropping Trump Organization and then suddenly Fox News starts pushing this John Durham garbage, and Eric Trump starts crying on TV. If this isn't a distraction from the fact that the Trumps are in a ton of trouble, I don't know what is
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So Durham is colluding with Trump to time releasing indictments with whatever idiotic story that is going to put President Trump in jail this week?

Your parents place must’ve had lots of lead paint.
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Good points. I’ve prepared a statement of net worth for the banks before but have never gotten an accountant to sign off on it. So I don’t know what checks they make, if any, on the FMV of properties and businesses.

Maybe Mazars accepted estimates of FMV provided by the Trump Organization but don’t want to stand behind them now. That could be because they don’t think the values are reasonable. Or maybe they do think they’re reasonable but don’t want to back up Trump in his battle with the attorney general, as they’re afraid the AG will come after them. Originally Posted by Tiny

Bingo, we have a winner ladies and gentleman!

Which makes all the sense in the world. The client is shown to have lied and is under indictment, now Mazzers says, "nope, we were not part of that lie" have at Trump. Why would Mazzers subject themselves to an investigation into whether they performed any due diligence (if the is required) or into whether they might have aided Trump Org in facilitating their lies in other loan applications, disclosures and tax filings.
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Since you showed up.
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Which makes all the sense in the world. The client is shown to have lied and is under indictment, now Mazzers says, "nope, we were not part of that lie" have at Trump. Why would Mazzers subject themselves to an investigation into whether they performed any due diligence (if the is required) or into whether they might have aided Trump Org in facilitating their lies in other loan applications, disclosures and tax filings. Originally Posted by 1blackman1
Indictment by who Mr Attorney?
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Are there any positive posts in here about Bitten, or is this just a Trumped Up bashing?