Alice Desiree double booked me!

So what kind of session do these kind of guys think they're going to get with manipulation threats and blackmail? That's like blackmailing and threatening someone that's cooking your food. I definitely wouldn't want to eat what they serve me afterwards. The same goes to the barber thats about to cut your hair and is holding scissors in their hands and you've already made threats to. You may lose an ear or get a really bad haircut at minimum. So proceed in caution when threatening and blackmailing a provider into trying to get a discounted session. Remember, she will be holding something way more valuable in her hands. How you treat her is exactly how she will treat your most valuable goods. Keep your head up girl. You handled this very respectfully and professionally.

Been there and yeah wasting a few hours and being left with a ramrod stinks.

A few years back, I got a free session in a similar situation, though I wound up paying her anyway afterwards for being such a class act. These situations tell you a lot about the lady, but expecting compensation is not very realistic. Getting it is pretty rare.

Been there and yeah wasting a few hours and being left with a ramrod stinks.

A few years back, I got a free session in a similar situation, though I wound up paying her anyway afterwards for being such a class act. These situations tell you a lot about the lady, but expecting compensation is not very realistic. Getting it is pretty rare. Originally Posted by mysteryman

Class act. And I bet you didn't blackmail or threaten her. Glad it worked out for you both

He immediately became irate and said "you know you totally wasted my time. I came all the way from (insert city name here) just to see you. I think you need to make it up to me with more than just an apology. How about you offer me a discount"

I told him that my 250 rate is already the discounted rate, that he's had my number and the ability to confirm with me for nearly 12 hours and hadn't done so, and I can't see him.
Originally Posted by Alice Desiree

OK...I'm going to try to say this as nice as possible.

You double booked for 10pm and I have no idea if that was n hour or multi hour session. He asked about after that session and you said it was too late. 11:45 or midnight really doesn't seem all that late especially in this hobby. If he wanted sloppy seconds at that point I guess that's something that should have been considered.

You did say that you tried unsuccessfully to text him Monday at 10am and got no reply so you tried again later that afternoon and he texted you back. In his mind if you're texting each other at 2pm (just guessing what later that afternoon means) then in his mind it is a confirmed appointment and I know around here the standard time to reach out to the provider or client before a confirmed appointment is typically about an hour which he did.

Now when he asked for a discount and your reply was that the 250 was already the discounted rate...I kinda have a problem with that. 250 is your special rate listed in your showcase and it was the agreed upon rate. It could have saved a lot of problems if you tried to offer 200 or add 30 minutes or some kind of offer to make it better.

Now having said all of that....Once he starting acting the way you described there is no way on earth you should consider seeing him. Anybody who goes off like that on an honest mistake would scare me as a provider.

I guess my point in all of that was mistakes were made by both of you. You made the initial mistake (an honest one it seems) and then it probably could have been handled better once you realized the mistake by offering SOME token to him to show him you were really sorry.

His mistake was acting out like a child once he didn't get his way.

Hopefully you won't consider my post bashing in any way....just my observations from the limited information out there.

It's sad maybe some people see things differently but if a provider says no and you have politely tried to convince her then there is no need to get upset. It's always a good practice to confirm an appointment and not wait for the provider to do so.

This lady in my opinion had gone above and beyond and she should not have to defend herself.

Some times I think people forget that this is a hobby and shouldn't take things so seriously.

It's sad maybe some people see things differently but if a provider says no and you have politely tried to convince her then there is no need to get upset. It's always a good practice to confirm an appointment and not wait for the provider to do so.

This lady in my opinion had gone above and beyond and she should not have to defend herself.

Something's I think people forget that this is a hobby and shouldn't take things so seriously. Originally Posted by macbeth1000

For argument's sake in what way did she go "above and beyond"?

In the way below

I said "I'm so sorry, I thought I had texted you several times but had your number wrong and when I didn't hear back I took another appt"

He asked if I was available afterwards, which I wasn't as it was already so late, and I told him I would see him absolutely any other day that I'm in town.

He immediately became irate and said "you know you totally wasted my time. I came all the way from (insert city name here) just to see you. I think you need to make it up to me with more than just an apology. How about you offer me a discount"

His replies became more and more aggressive. He demanded that I cancel with my other guy since cramster had messaged me first, followed by this text at 10:02 pm

"If you ignore me and don't make this right I will post a bad review."

He stated that he could and would post in the mens lounge and coed discussions his exact words?
"my time is money and you have wasted it. Ur stupid meaningless apology is exactly that"

After my lack of replies, he told me that I need to think about how I should make it right to him and that I had until the next morning to respond before he posts.

The following morning, he texted me bright and early at 845am to see if I'd reconsidered my position. I told him that I would have been happy to make things right if he hadn't been so aggressive and quite frankly I was concerned for my own safety.

I told him that I understood his frustration, the mistake was definitely mine and I wouldn't make it again, but I still don't want to meet him.

His last reply to me was "Thats because you're a stupid little Twat. U don't scare me either and I'll do what I want with or without your say so"

Again, I understand what I could have done differently to avoid this situation. If he had not been so extremely aggressive and demanding, I would have been happy to see him. Originally Posted by Alice Desiree

Don't see what you issue with him would be - seems like a sweet, sensitive, and caring guy. Sure this isn't NHR?

So what kind of session do these kind of guys think they're going to get with manipulation threats and blackmail? That's like blackmailing and threatening someone that's cooking your food. I definitely wouldn't want to eat what they serve me afterwards. The same goes to the barber thats about to cut your hair and is holding scissors in their hands and you've already made threats to. You may lose an ear or get a really bad haircut at minimum. So proceed in caution when threatening and blackmailing a provider into trying to get a discounted session. Remember, she will be holding something way more valuable in her hands. How you treat her is exactly how she will treat your most valuable goods. Keep your head up girl. You handled this very respectfully and professionally. Originally Posted by Jessica Jade

How can someone have a session after all this??? I'm big into IOP - I normally talk quite a bit with a lady before I meet because that mutual attraction is what turns me on. This mindset of "be with me or suffer the consequences" sounds like that of an abusive SO or rapist - in my not so humble opinion.

I've had miscommunication before but if it's on the lady's end I just let it go. Probably won't see her in the future unless we already have a relationship but I just move on - stuff happens. Come on - with this hobby there are a lot of moving pieces so I'm surprised in fact there are not more misfires. Maybe there are but most of us probably don't think the best way to make the women hot for us is by posting an alert crying someone made a mistake.

End result a I respect the heck out of her reply - well written and I sided with her after seeing the messages he sent. His damning of her will probably make her some new friends that would have otherwise not known about her.

Don't see what you issue with him would be - seems like a sweet, sensitive, and caring guy. Sure this isn't NHR?



How can someone have a session after all this??? I'm big into IOP - I normally talk quite a bit with a lady before I meet because that mutual attraction is what turns me on. This mindset of "be with me or suffer the consequences" sounds like that of an abusive SO or rapist - in my not so humble opinion.

I've had miscommunication before but if it's on the lady's end I just let it go. Probably won't see her in the future unless we already have a relationship but I just move on - stuff happens. Come on - with this hobby there are a lot of moving pieces so I'm surprised in fact there are not more misfires. Maybe there are but most of us probably don't think the best way to make the women hot for us is by posting an alert crying someone made a mistake.

End result a I respect the heck out of her reply - well written and I sided with her after seeing the messages he sent. His damning of her will probably make her some new friends that would have otherwise not known about her. Originally Posted by EasyLover214

+1 my thoughts exactly. That's why thought it was crazy on his part to try to blackmail her into the session rather than being nice and calm about it and take it as a loss if she didn't agree to it. But I too agree with the way she handled it. Especially considering how new she is. I truly hope the best for both parties involved.

Miscommunication in the hobby world happens. How you handle it says a lot about what kind of person you are.

I'm not delving into specifics, but being nice, flexible and going with the flow has its perks. I've been treated very well for keeping my cool in similar situations.

Many of these ladies have jobs, businesses, kids, families and believe it or not hobby cock isn't priority one. I love it when I am priority one, but I wait my turn.

Well put, Tony. There, I said it.

Alice sorry you had to deal with this type of guy. All the yes reviews you are getting proves that he is the aggressor. Stay positive and just keep smiling.

Miscommunication in the hobby world happens. How you handle it says a lot about what kind of person you are.

I'm not delving into specifics, but being nice, flexible and going with the flow has its perks. I've been treated very well for keeping my cool in similar situations.

Many of these ladies have jobs, businesses, kids, families and believe it or not hobby cock isn't priority one. I love it when I am priority one, but I wait my turn. Originally Posted by pfmtony

Your so awesome.

Well Jessica, you know I tried to see you one day. You were busy earlier in the day, and I couldn't make it later. It happens, right? I would still love to meet you someday, and the way you handled everything calmly is one of the reasons.

Stay calm folks, we all have many other obligations that come before fun. I like to play at lunch time. My boss sometimes likes surprise lunch meetings. I usually know 24 hrs in advance, but I can't control him.

In my experience, everytime I've ever been patient and calm, it has always paid off.

I tried seeing a provider yesterday that I have seen before. It didn't work out. She couldn't get to her incall and ready in time. We postponed. She ended up nite making that time either. Guess what, I will still see her again, and I still like her as a person. She even offered a discount next time. I wont take it. What I will do is give her more notice to make things easier for her.

And I'm going to say that for a very young lady the OP handled this pretty well. But this is also one of the reasons younger newer ones rarely get my attention.

Here is the problem I have with this story. If they had spoken before and had made a appointment, how did that happen? Remember she could not contact him. How did she agree to a 10 o'clock time in the first place? However he had contacted her originally would have been available to her. Maybe there is a explanation that I am missing. I have spoken with him via PM and he said he never threatened her. He just told her thought it was wrong and would report it. I think she should have took the later appointment, if not she should have offered some type of special. I have been done this way twice and did not report it. Writing the wrong number was her fault admittedly and now he is the bad guy? I have nothing against her and hope it is not taken that way.