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Newbie,

Use the Search feature. Search is your friend. Once you Search a topic many of your questions will be answered without looking so newbieish. Or download some porn and get some lube.

Get a P411 account. Many women registered there are NF.

Even though p411 is great I don't have it for one reason I don't like people in the hobby checking my place of employment as do others here .
I have probably missed out on some hot providers but still have seen a lot of other hot providers.
The reason I mentioned the BP body rub providers is that they're usually a safer bet for your money than the BP Indy Providers .
It's also the way I got started I wrote a review of a FBSM provider on ASPD she then joined ASPD and vouched for me becoming my first provider who would help me with references .
To get into this hobby is work but once you're in the problem will be staying away. Originally Posted by carkido45

Unless Gina has changed her requirements she does not insist on employment verification. At least when I joined she didn't. Plus I believe a vouch from a few providers will get you in also. Plus a free 6 month membership to boot.

Unless Gina has changed her requirements she does not insist on employment verification. At least when I joined she didn't. Plus I believe a vouch from a few providers will get you in also. Plus a free 6 month membership to boot. Originally Posted by Out_of_Bounds

True!!! but if he can't get references how's he going to get vouches...but your info is still helpful.

Even though p411 is great I don't have it for one reason I don't like people in the hobby checking my place of employment as do others here .

As Out_of_Bounds mentioned (thank you!), that shouldn't be a reason to stop you from getting P411. As long as you have at least 2 excellent references, we don't need to do an employment verification.

Obviously, if the OP doesn't have references, he would need to go through the employment verification.... but really we are extremely discreet and have every reason to make sure private info is deleted and destroyed once the account is approved.

Employment verification wouldn't apply to you though, plus there's a free 6 month trial waiting for any new applicant with 2 provider references, no credit card needed, no strings!

Always,
Gina

True!!! but if he can't get references how's he going to get vouches...but your info is still helpful. Originally Posted by carkido45

IF the newbie cannot figure this out should he be in the hobby. He should just download the porn and invest in some personal lube.

IF the newbie cannot figure this out should he be in the hobby. He should just download the porn and invest in some personal lube. Originally Posted by pyramider

Spit works well...and it's free. LOL

Newbie,

Scour the provider ads and focus on the ladies who are newbie friendly; they more than likely will list this in their ads.

Get P411...then look for ladies in the P411 database that are listed as newbie friendly. Once they see you, get them to give you an "ok" (reference) and you are in!

It's not rocket science...you just have to get off your ass and make it happen.

As Out_of_Bounds mentioned (thank you!), that shouldn't be a reason to stop you from getting P411. As long as you have at least 2 excellent references, we don't need to do an employment verification.

Obviously, if the OP doesn't have references, he would need to go through the employment verification.... but really we are extremely discreet and have every reason to make sure private info is deleted and destroyed once the account is approved.

Employment verification wouldn't apply to you though, plus there's a free 6 month trial waiting for any new applicant with 2 provider references, no credit card needed, no strings!

Always,
Gina Originally Posted by GinaXXX

Thank you Gina and even though I don't have it, as I posted that hasn't keep me from recommending P411 since my time back on ASPD.
P411 has a great reputation and has been alway a great help to the hobby community.

I would suggest you try SeekingArrangement.com or an extras friendly Strip Club.

None of these ask for references especially a stripper your doing itc. The good ones I will setup otc. Many of the SA gals are new at the game - I usually offer them $120. I have done a few of them in the $100-$150 range. The SA gals are looking for a guy who will see them on reg basis. The really hotter ones might want $200. They call it a dating site but IMO it really is a mistress / provider site.