I wish I could somehow wrap my mind around this point of view. It would sure save me a lot of money, time and frustration. I guess my own perspective on the value of the swallow is expressed in an interview I once saw with Sir Edmund Hillary ... His response was that a climber's safe return--surviving the attempt--might be deemed an essential part of the achievement. In other words: If the mountain kills you, then you didn't really climb it;
if the girl spits, then she didn't really blow you.
The issue here is one of definition, and yes, certainly more cognitive than physical.
Originally Posted by roaringfork
roaringfork, it appears you are new to this sub-culture (based on post count, threads started, etc). correct me if i am wrong.
going with that assumption, i would say you have a lot of learning to do.
in my humble opinion, attempting to transfer real-world ideas, assumptions, beliefs to this sub-culture is filled with missteps and failures.
sure, there are some things that can be transferred, but the bolded line above is a perfect example.
if she spits, then she got something out of you.
hence, she blew you.
it doesnt have anything to do with mountains.
in this sub-culture, everyone has their own idea of what they want to do or are willing to do. and, unfortunately, sometimes you have to find out first hand. reviews are great as is private communication with the other guys. but you will never really know until you are there.
so, if it is really important to you that she swallow it, let the woman know.
she will either say - you betcha -or- no way jose -or- or maybe next time.
respect her decision and do what you think is best for you.
one thing that transfers over from real life is COMMUNICATION.
good luck in your encounters.