Electric Vehicles

You are so wrong if you think EV are the right thing. First of all the reduction of our carbon footprint is so small it is nonessential. Do the research

https://manhattan-institute.us4.list...4&e=ee0a146362 Originally Posted by Topgun007

The Manhattan Institute for Policy Research is an extremely conservative, corporate-funded, New York-based policy group founded by former CIA director William J. Casey in 1978.

Extremely conservative does mean anything, do your research on the facts. Batteries, raw mineral mining, China dependency, charging stations, electric grid, etc. the cart is way before the horse and there is no way we can get ride of fossil fuels and the combustible engine at this time in the world. Have you heard of the 15 minutes city the left wants to impose on society?

Get a horse with solar panels and a windmill. It's hopeless. Embrace the suck.

Our power grid can not handle all the electric cars
Part of the country already has power supply issues due to the heat and several power generation plants being moth balled

The Science isn't there yet and the facts won't change the left even when it hits them in the face.

You have to admit guys its pretty interesting. I mean here we are just a bunch of average Johns, (er.. I mean Joe's), and yet most everybody here gets IT. They keep trying to push the consumer into something that we aren't even close to being ready for from an infrastructure standpoint, and yet we're heading 100 miles an hour as a society into a future that has ZERO chance of working they way their selling it. Oh but don't even think about having an encounter with another like minded consenting adult. Crazy times for sure...

The Manhattan Institute for Policy Research is an extremely conservative, corporate-funded, New York-based policy group founded by former CIA director William J. Casey in 1978. Originally Posted by Saint Expedite

No different than the funding for the climate change religion…and that is real dark money, harder to trace who funds their studies.

The Science isn't there yet and the facts won't change the left even when it hits them in the face. Originally Posted by Cherokeechief

They don’t believe in science, if they did, men would be men and women would be women and stay in their own locker rooms and rest rooms.

Hate the unisex mass bathroom at MCI.

My friend bought a hybird 5 years go He had a recall on it coundnt drive it plus had to leave outside for safty he was not offered a loaner for his trouble wich took weeks then car was repaired He decided to trade car at dealership where he bought it they said they didnt want the car becauce the battary would ready to b replaced He was very unhappy

Do you mind telling how many miles it has, and what brand of hybrid it is?

Yep, who thought the Amish were so far seeing. Right now Evergy on the MO side is getting ready to start charging more for certain hours. How many of you enjoy your ac and refrigerator/freezer? Just think if it comes to the decision if you need to charge your car to go to work every day or sleep in a cool home and eat food from your refrigerator. Wash/Dry your clothes, watch Netflix, etc. There is no way they can provide the electricity for all of this. They might start rationing electricity with rolling blackouts if it comes down to it. Yet they keep pushing this. Something will have to give. All this ultra efficient equipment breaks down but costs about as much to repair, as a new one. So you replace it if you can afford too. Who here has a refrigerator in the garage that is decades old and works but the one in the kitchen gets replaced every 8 yrs or so. I know someone with a Lennox 21 SEER ac that is 10 yrs old but the circuit board went bad and there is none left in the country to repair it. Lennox has none and can't give any ETA when it can get more in. I am sure this will happen with EV parts if everyone has to have them.

i scrapped my 16 year old central ac and have 2 window units. closed rooms off and put up curtains to control air flow.

they last longer and cools as well as central.
embrace the suck

You know, most of you are consuming information that just validates your own prejudices. You find some source that says that EVs will overload the grid, so you love that since it fits to your idea that EVs are bad.

You buy into this shit that the energy consumed to produce the batteries is so large that EVs are actually bad for the environment. Hint: Not one single large lithium battery will EVER not be recycled or re-used. Those nay-sayers are quoting figures designed to make idiots with pre-conceived opinions feel better about their opinions -- now having some "facts" in their support. Guess what -- if you recycle the batteries, the calculus gets very different.

As for EV reliability and dangers. Well... Hmm... Gas catches fire too. I saw THREE burned out gassers on the way to work a few days ago. You seem to accept that reality. But one burned up electric vehicle in the news from California and you have decided they are all bad? You are fucking letting your pre-conceived ideas and opinions guide your thoughts.

I have 11 years of EV vehicle and 14 years of PV under my belt. Buying a Ford Lightning as next addition. Expanding solar power as well.

Lets do some math: The Ford Lightning gets around 2 miles per kwh. Where my Lighting is going, electricity is around $0.12 kwh. That's low, but it is what it is. So the truck will be running at $0.06 per mile. Lets say gas is $3.60 a gallon. For you fuckers that cannot handle math, that means the truck will be getting THE EQUIVALENT OF 60 MPG in terms of cost to drive.

Try that on..... (Maybe some of you rejected MPG back in the 70s. You should consider revisiting the idea. Saves money etc)

Like we have been saying on this thread, do the research. The facts are there.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gre...les-bankruptcy

Your example is a company that deals in public transportation that is reorganizing to shift production to other types of commercial vehicles? Seems to me public transportation took a hit recently for some reason...