CVS goes woke

Well said

This is not the statement of a person who cares about women at all let alone their rights. This statement is promoting violence against women. Originally Posted by Dreamgurrl

Uh-oh. Looks like someone is spoiling for a fight.

Guy, we don't need to mansplain to Dreamgirl. I've met her. She can argue circles around plenty of folks and knows exactly what point she's making and who she's dealing with... Originally Posted by HDGristle

Give me a break. She isn't "arguing circles around" anyone in this instance. She's just baiting berry. His only (arguable) mistake was to say "Can't wait til" ... (bad things happen as a result of the new CVS policy). He wrote that hastily. Everyone knows he meant "can't wait til" the likely forseeable consequences make CVS look stupid. Dreamgurrl knows that... but she sees a chance to bait berry by distorting what he said/meant.

Except he gives no quarter on that to others, which means she used his own tactics on him. Which is solidly meta.

With all due respect, of course, YRH.

And everyone most certainly does not know that. We can assume it. We can infer it. We can believe it. We can hope. But we don't know it. Only what he says and how he tries to justify it after the fact.

Her other point is sound. The same dangers already exist and have for some time. He's starting with a conclusion and trying to back into a justification. And introducing shit from other threads as part of the grand culture war aren't germane to the CVS points.

You are upset about trans people fighting for their human rights... Originally Posted by Dreamgurrl

Huh?

When the fuck did it become a "human right" for a biological male to use restrooms, locker rooms, showers, and to play in competitive sports that are supposed to be reserved for members of the opposite biological sex?

Is that one found somewhere in our Constitution? The Bill of Rights? The United Nations charter?

Please edumacate me, o wise all-knowing dreamgirl!

Huh?

When the fuck did it become a "human right" for a biological male to use restrooms, locker rooms, showers, and to play in competitive sports that are supposed to be reserved for members of the opposite biological sex?

Is that one found somewhere in our Constitution? The Bill of Rights? The United Nations charter?

Please edumacate me, o wise all-knowing dreamgirl! Originally Posted by lustylad

It is a human right to be able to go to work without fear of violence or discrimination.

The real danger is for trans people using restrooms / spaces of their assigned gender, not cis people being in danger of trans people. Hence why CVS made it company Policy. It’s not that difficult to figure out.

Except he gives no quarter on that to others, which means she used his own tactics on him. Which is solidly meta.

So it's ok to distort berry's meaning because he sometimes does the same to others. Uh-huh. Do two wrongs make a right?


With all due respect, of course, YRH.

Of course! Thank you for addressing me correctly lol.


And everyone most certainly does not know that. We can assume it. We can infer it. We can believe it. We can hope. But we don't know it. Only what he says and how he tries to justify it after the fact.

Ok, let me rephrase. Most people who waste enough time in this sandbox to become familiar with berry's style know it. That includes you, since you just conceded dreamgurrl is knowingly baiting him.


Her other point is sound. The same dangers already exist and have for some time... Originally Posted by HDGristle

No, respectfully her logic is utterly unsound. Just because dangers already exist somewhere else doesn't mean we ought to increase those same dangers in places where they don't currently exist.

In this case, yes. Deliciously meta to see the baiter baited.

You're quite, welcome YRH

Most is acceptable as it means we've disproven an absolute

We disagree. Those dangers already exist there, you just don't recognize it and have an illusion of safety

The real danger is for trans people using restrooms/spaces of their assigned gender, not cis people being in danger of trans people. Hence why CVS made it company Policy. Originally Posted by Dreamgurrl

How many trans people were being beat up in men's rooms at CVS? Surely you have some numbers to support your assertion that the policy change is intended to protect against such violence.

And you failed to answer my question about when/where did this insanity become a "human right"?

Men who are prone to violence against women aren’t going to wait around for an opportunity in a CVS or any other businesses gender inclusive restroom/locker room. They also aren’t going to pretend to be trans so that they can go to a woman’s prison just to assault women. No sir, men who are prone to violence against women are going to do so whenever and wherever they please.
Originally Posted by Dreamgurrl

I think you missed the point.

Giving a mentally disturbed man more of an opportunity allowing them in a CVS restroom or locker room increases the chances of something bad happening

And if you don't think convicted murders and rapists haven't claimed to be trans so they can be sent to a women's prison, you haven't paid attention to what is happening

Anyone with a daughter, a mother, a wife should be concerned about how women's rights are being destroyed in favor of a very small group of mentally deranged individuals. No one cares what these people do in the privacy of their own home. But when it erodes the rights of others and makes others more vulnerable, that is wrong.

I don't care if as a women, you don't want to speak up against it. That is your choice. But I will speak out for women's rights here as it is the right thing to do

Does anyone in this thread have any first-hand knowledge of the CVS break room, locker rooms, restrooms, or their employment policies?

Uh-oh. Looks like someone is spoiling for a fight.



Give me a break. She isn't "arguing circles around" anyone in this instance. She's just baiting berry. His only (arguable) mistake was to say "Can't wait til" ... (bad things happen as a result of the new CVS policy). He wrote that hastily. Everyone knows he meant "can't wait til" the likely forseeable consequences make CVS look stupid. Dreamgirl knows that... but she sees a chance to bait berry by distorting what he said/meant. Originally Posted by lustylad

Thanks Lusty.

Yeah, I know that is what she is trying to do. It's sad when I am here defending women's rights, and she tries to twist the meaning of my point. And then of course all the usual suspects pile on.

I get it - some of them really dislike me. So be it. But are they so afraid of women's rights that they can't speak out against these type of policies and actions which are dangerous for women?

You're not defending women's rights. You're defending what you feel women's rights should be... anonymously on a hooker board.

And exposing your highly anti-trans bias.

If you want to actually defend women's rights, go out into the world and do it openly, loudly and proudly. Not anonymously on the internet on a hooker board where you also shit on female providers for not conforming to your whims and desires.

Woman's rights also covers a woman's right to bodily autonomy. This means to abort a fetus or zygote that is inside their cervix that was put there by a rapist or a family member rapist.



Anyone who doesn't support a woman's right to abort too, in cases like UA, incest, rape, or if the fetus is not viable is a liar and not actually supporting a woman's rights.



It doesn't matter who is or is not allowed in a public restroom. Make them all unisex for all I care. As long as they are keeping the crazies out, that is all that matters.


And yes, there can be transgendered people (and some will argue that the desire to change your gender is a mental illness, but that is not relevant here), but there are also far more people who are not transgender who are equally crazy

You're not defending women's rights. You're defending what you feel women's rights should be... anonymously on a hooker board.
Originally Posted by HDGristle

Feel free to think what you want

I will continue to stand up for women's rights

You do you

Feel free to think what you want

I will continue to stand up for women's rights

You do you Originally Posted by berryberry

Could you clarify what rights you support?


If a woman is raped by her father and gets pregnant, should they have the right to decide what happens to her body?



Are you pro-life, anti-womens-rights? What are you?