Nothing makes an intimate setting ... like watching all the guys we are about to fuck debate over our worth. I am soooo horny right now. Originally Posted by ErynNow, yer talkin'! If'n yer lady boner is a-gettin' twitchy, Ah gots meh sum HEB Combo Loco coupons thet jus' mite push yew o'er tha edge an' give ya a big ol' origamiasm.
Eh, you're fine. I'm just generally baffled by this topic when it comes up. My point is, degrading a new provider, or any provider, because her rate isn't the typical market rate is weird. Really weird. Even schooling her gently when she didn't ask you to teach is weird.
There are men on this site who like my rate and I see some of them. There are men who like me a whole bunch, hate my rates, and throw extra money or magic my way to let me know. And hell, there are men here that wouldn't fuck me for free. Not every guy here, or in the greater goddamn world, is interested in me, especially because I'm chubby and getting older everyday. Luckily, I'm rad how I am and therefore attract enough attention/the attention I like to keep me sane/paid. I have no reason to let the majority who aren't interested in me dictate how I treat myself, place my standards, or run my side business. This lady shouldn't either. Originally Posted by JennsLolli
+1LOL!
@ the OP and others- If you don't think she's worth it, why take the time to hate on her publicly no less?
Were you rejected by this girl and now retaliating the only way you can? Are you using the board to bully her or humiliate her under the board protection of "escort client information exchange?" Debating her worth in public?? Or are some of you you just that rude?
I find, from personal experience, when guys on here hate on us, it's usually because you feel rejected by that girl, even if it's a perceived rejection. Or you have an agenda like trying to sway the board, some personal inadequacy you are trying to compensate for or.....
Not all of the time, but most of the time. Yep.
Is it fear that this girl will inadvertently be responsible for driving prices up all over Austin and you are making her your poster child?
Why don't you be respectable and go talk smack about her behind her back like a "normal" monger?!
Just a suggestion. Originally Posted by Jane Doe
Charge what you ladies want, that's your prerogative.IMA lovin' the new "kinder, gentler, softer" Rocker Rick. It fits you. Although at times I harken back in memory of a few MOTHERFUCKER I'LL KICK YOUR ASS AND SKULL FUCK YOUR ATF'S FOUR DEAD GRANMAS!!!"
But don't make the mistake of equating your self worth with your rate.
It has as little to do with that as putting implants in your body for self esteem.
If you are putting self worth or self esteem with either, you have a deeper seeded insecurity. Originally Posted by rockerrick
Awesome! Another post about rates!! Nothing makes an intimate setting(please see Windinhishair poll) like watching all the guys we are about to fuck debate over our worth. I am soooo horny right now..^ ^ ^ 1000 x Yup.
Thanks for weighing in, Foxnews.. Originally Posted by Eryn
Awesome! Another post about rates!! Nothing makes an intimate setting(please see Windinhishair poll) like watching all the guys we are about to fuck debate over our worth. I am soooo horny right now..
Thanks for weighing in, Foxnews.. Originally Posted by Eryn
Why publicly call out ladies because of their prices? If you can not afford her, just do not see her. What is the point of trying to price-shame someone? Why even care about what she charges? Just go see someone in your price range.
If I was a hobbyist and was going to own some woman's body for a time period, I'd be grateful and pay her at least twice what she was asking. I love tipping people in the service industry huge. I would not make an appointment unless I had the funds for her asking price times two. If I go to a restaurant I want the wait staff to remember me and fight over me because they know I take care of them...and they just serve food! I would want a provider to feel the same way when they hear from me, excited to see me knowing I will hook them up and make their day.
On the opposite side, if I were a provider and had to think about pricing out my time and factor in living cost and risk, I'm sure their would be price-shaming post made here. Living cost are super high in Austin! Not to mention providers do not have retirement, 401k, employer-paid health plans, ss or any of the security that comes with a normal job. Plus the risk of prison, fines, losing their children if they have any, diseases from nasty men, assault risk, rape-risk, stalkers. I do not know how ladies can afford to see men at all...you should be grateful for them and tip them very well to make up for the other men who might not. Pay more, keep them low volume, keep their sessions with you high quality. Happy provider=happy hobbyist.
Just my thoughts on price-shaming. Originally Posted by deerwhisperer
^ ^ ^ 1000 x Yup.AWESOME!
Lols to the dudes who attempt to convince you that many of your assets cannot be capitalized. To attempt to render you innocuous in a system designed to make you believe their view of you actually matters. It doesn't. (see girl with multiple alerts for stealing who somehow still gets business on this site) They will do this by appealing to your deepest fears and most affecting insecurities, which for women are mostly Shame and Fear. They will laugh at you, your body and threaten you with disapproval and rejection. To capitulate to this bullshit seems almost ingrained in a woman's DNA, that's why so many otherwise savvy and fucking awesome babes will be cowed by this board.
The great thing about our mini capitalist system here is that is the entire object of the game for providers is to find an efficiency and extort the fuck out of it. It is not her business to explain what that niche or efficiency is, but it is unlikely it has anything to do with self-worth but many different factors, the explanations for which she does not owe anyone. Even if it was based on self-worth, who the fuck cares.
A good business woman knows that money is fungible, if it doesn't come from people who do not wish to pay her rate, it will come from someone who can. There are plenty of generous men out there as demonstrated by Whispers recent poll. Her demographic will either support her rates or they will not. And if not, she will lower her rates or drop out of the game. Again, who cares.
Shame and ridicule are employed to coerce women into ignoring their capability to their disadvantage. Though this is a open board and anyone can post what one wishes, disparaging providers is not an honorable masculine trait, but seems to the strategy of those who bizarrely seem happy to self-emasculate. Originally Posted by Miss Valentina
^ ^ ^ 1000 x Yup.I mean, just who the hell else am I supposed to have a decent debate with? Golly.
Though this is a open board and anyone can post what one wishes, QUOTE]
This is the only part of your put down of the male gender as a whole had any resonance with me. It is a gross exaggeration to use the phrase "put down of the male gender" as this couldn't be farther from the truth. It was a rejoinder to those who delight in emotionally flagellating women, and I know and understand extremely well that this type of man is in a very small but vociferous minority. Big difference. I love, adore and respect MEN. Men who understand the tenants of what it is to be a secure and self realized man. I am nothing if not a connoisseur of exceptional men. I love them, I want to dance the Tarantula on their cocks.
Lest anyone forgets, no monger is asking any hoogars to post here, but when they do they are subject to approval, disapproval, critiques, reviews, scorn. Only because you uphold and insist on that idea. Doesn't make it true and it sure as fuck doesn't make men who do it look rad or funny. It's an idea implanted into the heads of other mongers and providers who would actually believe it. One that I, and other people completely reject.
Some would say just the fact that a woman posts pictures of herself and rents out her pussy on a time meter makes them subject to derision. That's not a belief I hold true however (as you know).No, you don't actually buy any of this. You're a provocateur, you mock, deride, insinuate, laugh, instigate, goad, and rabble-rouse. You're exceedingly capable in this regard. Thanks for helping us broads identify the self-alerts. All the provocateurs are important in this way.
I've said many times the girl can charge what she wants...but if she is going to market herself as in a Rolex pricing tier with the look of a Timex, then grow some thick skin (stole that analogy from the national board from another monger-but wanted to give literary credit). Why is it that anyone would care if she has thick skin or not? And who died and made anyone here the Grand Poobah of insisting hookers have a thick skin? Any one is welcome to don the Fez of the Grand Poobah of the Thick or Thin Skin of Hookers and they have that right, but reciprocally that doesn't mean I don't reserve the right to think they are more than chicken-fried donkey's chong.
Before someone launches into the tired "you shouldn't care what her prices are if you don't want to fuck her", its not ABOUT her specifically. Most Hoogars are in their correct pricing backet. (damn that ones gonna get me castrated isn't it?) Then what is it about? Nope, no castration. We've figured out our demographic margins and that's that. Like I said, Hazeldoll either will or she wont. Who cares?
I UNDERSTAND Hoogars like yourself getting up in arms and bent out of shape regarding this topic because you put yourself in her place & think "what if that was me"? Goddamn I hate it when people make assumptions about what I think because they're always wrong. Just by posting here and particularly on this thread I subject myself to scrutiny which was entirely anticipated by me.
If it was, you'd get the same scrutiny. See above.
And I don't shame, so the cacophony of voices "you should be ashamed" really rings hollow with me. I'm never surprised at the wickedness of humans, only in their lack of shame. You haven't any darling.You cannot shame the shameless.
Its a marketplace. Don't want to be critiqued, then don't ply your wares here. If the subject hurts some personal feelings, don't read them. If someone's marketing doesn't sit with you, don't sweat it. If you aren't marketing yourself as a Ferrari with a Prius skin, don't sweat the heat. Absolutely. I have always said anyone is welcome to post what they want, I'm certainly not afraid of the heat but it's always funny to me the ones who most noisily insist they have the right to post what they wish sure hate it when someone with an opposing view expresses that same right.
If rules were being broken MODS would be issuing warnings, citations and cock slaps...they are not. Um, no one has even mentioned this being an eccie rule breaking thing. This is simply a question of me positing that deriding women is not such an awesome thing and certainly does not highlight the greater masculine virtues and you and others disagreeing. Nothing more and certainly not anything to go call the ModGods down or go ballistic over.
(Ya know I luv ya V, we just debatin') Originally Posted by Miss Valentina