Isnt this a Community???

We all were in the same boat at some point, Koyote. For me, I did a lot of reading, learning and lurking on the board(s) before I jumped in. I chose to start out with two very well reputed ladies who were newbie friendly. I had a wonderful time with each of them. They were kind enough to okay me for a P411 account, and by doing so, I received a free 6 month membership. I'm not sure if that deal is still open or not. You'll want to check. Once the P411 account was set up, it was a breeze to set up appointments with other ladies. Hope that helps and good luck.

This complaint of not answering e-mails keeps popping up, and folks say they send e-mails and get no answers. I guess this is possible, I know I personaly answer every e-mail I get at times I may group several from the same poster into one that I send, but I answer all. Now I know I show up on several outlaw sites with a e-mail address that is not mine. Don't have a clue where the mail to these sites go but its not to me. Could this be the reason for some of the no answers? For you guys that are new or have been away for a while I will do everything I can to help you get into the hobby if you will just work with me a little bit. But I'm not going to say just come on overand lets get it on. Some way I have to verify your not LE and /or some type of serial bad guys. This may take a day or so and help from you. when I open my door to you I want to be reasonbly sure that when you leave,I'm in the same shape as when you arriver (if I'm out of breath thats ok). WHY I want yalls $$ in the market place. so take some of the advice given to yall, quit complaining, spend the time contacting ladies work with us and before long you'll be an old timer

But it appears to me (and maybe I'm wrong) that many of these ladies are very good at what they do, but not very good in basic business practices. Originally Posted by huck finn

Your observation is particularly accurate with respect to the average woman on BP and CL.

Secondly, I have taken time to admire the beautiful women of Dallas' profiles. I hardly notice many with reviews. This puzzles me as to why we men as reviewers are not spending time with members of our own community? Originally Posted by Koyote

Forsake of clarity, if you are looking at the providers profile or the information below her avatar ... the review count there which says 0 is not the number of reviews she has had written about her or in this case doesn't have. That number is an accumulation of the reviews written by the user. Since providers don't write reviews that number for them will be -0-.

A provider could have a 100 reviews and the number on her user info would still say 0.

OFF :-)

Forsake of clarity, if you are looking at the providers profile or the information below her avatar ... the review count there which says 0 is not the number of reviews she has had written about her or in this case doesn't have. That number is an accumulation of the reviews written by the user. Since providers don't write reviews that number for them will be -0-.

A provider could have a 100 reviews and the number on her user info would still say 0.

OFF :-) Originally Posted by OFF

Good point, OFF. I didn't even think of the possibility that he might have been looking there. Good looking out.

Dad as stated and admitted I'am new I know this but I guess what I was asking for personally is why have your email up if that isnt a perferred method to contact atleast the first contact. Originally Posted by Koyote

This is a fairly common question and recurring problem. There are a number of ladies who are very quick to return emails and conversely, there are many who don't. Some ladies prefer phone calls. When I first began hobbying, I found emails a somewhat unreliable way to communicate for the most part as you have experienced (again allowing for those ladies who are quick to respond). You might try buying a disposal phone to use when you are preparing for a hobby venture. I will simply say the more methods you have with which to communicate the better your odds of success in the Hobby.

OFF :-)

Totally unrelated gratuitous "I forgot to post a pic earlier so here is an animated one" boobiage photo!

I know the providers are not allowed to post reviews. As Dannie said earlier it takes just a few minutes to read the rules. I was mainly referring to the men that have well over a couple of hunred post but zero reviews. I'm also aware of now that P411 would have been a better choice but I'm a welcomed member to this site now and feel a loyality issue. I will make this site work for me somehow.

I wouldnt want any provider to see me on a whim. I learned from Christy the value to both client and provider of screening. However I cant get ANY screening or references if the ladies dont return contact. Just say'n... And I cant get valued references unless I get chosen by someone.

I, like many members have both P411 and ECCIE memberships and find they really serve two purposes, and co-exist quite nicely.

Work your way up.

See some newbie friendly providers. Some require very little screening.

You are going to AMPs now. Write reviews if the AMP ladies do not object. We need to alway consider all the ladies safety and comfort. While you will not get references from AMPs, your reviews will help to build a presence here on the board and some ladies will consider that favorably. It has worked well for me. I see mostly AMP ladies (hassle free for me). I have been around long enough and written enough on the other board of long ago, that there are many ladies who will see me without recent indy references. They know who I am.

You will acquire some references from the newbie providers and can move up to another level. Not necessarily higher level of ladies (don't want to get in trouble here), but more intense screening.

The ladies you see initially may not be those that you are most intested in, but it is a fun road to travel. Just jump in. Be patient and enjoy the ride. Don't worry about getting to a particular station on a schedule.

Torito

I see mostly AMP ladies (hassle free for me).
Torito Originally Posted by Torito

I have not ever been to an AMP so my comment about it being a hassle was based purely on threads on here about the way they work. Booking with a verified provider here who has reviews leaves little doubt that ones expectations won't be met (there is always YMMV). From what I have read, at an AMP one is at the whim of the Mamasan who you see, and that what "is on the menu" is basically a massage and all extras have to be negotiated. This as well as a typical providers in call is much nicer looking and safer then the AMPs I have driven by. Would love to be corrected.

For a so called community, it also seems like it's very easy to get banned for minor infractions. I noticed a few providers who get very good reviews have been banned. WTF? I think the power of being a moderator goes to some peoples' heads. Originally Posted by sky_wire

Providers don't get banned because they're bad providers. They get banned because they misbehave on the board.

Happy, it's easy to have misconceptions about things we have not experienced. We are both on different sides of the AMP/Indie issue. I can see why different guys would have preferences one way or the other. I want to make it clear that I do want to meet with one of the providers on here someday. But right now I'm having a good time at the AMPs. My first AMP experience was with a girl that was DDG. I ended up seeing her over 20 times. The reason I quit seeing her was b/c I liked her way too much. I guess the AMPs are like everything else - there's some better than others. You can make appointments to see the AMP girl of your choice. I, for one, don't go on a whim - at least not when I'm in town. I usually have certain days and times that I want to go. Recently I have just experienced another lady in an AMP that I can't get enough of.

Another thing to consider about us AMP guys is that we have "yellow fever" and are in love with Asian pussy.

Have never experienced it. But think 7th Heaven and Cindy sound like a good place and person to initiate myself. If you have a favorite place/person for a Newbie to AMP would love to have a recommendation. You can PM if that is preferred. Thanks

Happy

I started to respond to your post quoting me and also the last one reguarding AMPs. You original post is a very good subject that is dear to many. We are seriously hijacking it with the AMP issue, another whole topic. Lets keep this thread on the original issue.

The AMP issue is complicated and there are may varied opinions. If you would like to explore the AMP issue further, I suggest that you take one or both of your last two posts and start a new thread for that discussion.

Torito

Even though I am an old guy, I began hobbying less than a year ago. I just want to second (or is it third) Dannie and happyindallas--register with P411. Gina definitely screens before allowing you to register, but she does it very discretely. I started exactly as Dannie suggested. I now have sufficient provider okays that I don't have any issues meeting new independent providers.