Trump pushing the envelope on Fascist hate rhetoric -- he hasn't found the line yet

Yssup Rider's Avatar
Yes they are.

Trump loves to send Socialist/Progressive/Liberal/Democrats and their Lackys in the Main Stream Media into “vapors”.

Everything he does, and says is carefully scripted to appeal to a certain demographic while driving another crazy. Originally Posted by Jackie S
Exactly the point here Jackie.

That doesn’t concern you?
Yssup Rider's Avatar
Yes, I think Yssup and the others are being a bit too dramatic. Trump doesn't necessarily believe what he says.

McCain's mostly right in his post above. Trump knowingly hired illegal Latin American and Polish immigrants. I don't understand however why McCain concludes by saying Trump's a sick piece of shit. Most politicians, not just Trump, are hypocrites. They say and do things they don't believe in to get votes and further their personal interests.

So does Trump really believe the blood and vermin schtick? Well, Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon probably do, but I'm not convinced the Big Guy does. As Yssup says, just look at his family tree. As to the Hitler analogies, Trump's daughter, son-in-law and grand kids are Jewish. I wouldn't read too much into the collection of Hitler's speeches that Trump kept by his bedside. He says the business mogul Marty Davis gave the book to him. Trump's not overly fond of reading. He may not have ever picked it up.

Like you say, he's probably trying to appeal to a particular demographic. He's showing spectacularly bad judgement though IMHO, as he's got the primary sowed up and this won't play well in the general election. It's rhetoric like this, and Trump's history as a businessman, which would keep me from voting for him, even if he hadn't tried to steal an election. That's even though I agree with a lot of his policies.

These are both good reads, about Trump's use of undocumented workers,

https://time.com/4465744/donald-trum...ented-workers/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ff7_story.html Originally Posted by Tiny
Are you trying to say some of Trump’s best friends are Jewish so the blood and soil talk can’t be real to him?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
Are you trying to say some of Trump’s best friends are Jewish so the blood and soil talk can’t be real to him?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Originally Posted by Yssup Rider



No, you are.

thank you valued poster
eccieuser9500's Avatar
Dumpster bringing the Hitler vibes to America.

And the above poster once posted there is no rise in Fascism here. Sure. If he says so, right?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRwFgZSiDUc?si=Sjk5oFQbO5uz55z M
















Brot's Avatar
  • Brot
  • 12-19-2023, 06:13 AM
I'm messing with you Yssup. I cringed when Trump referred to Mexican immigrants as criminals, drug dealers and rapists. That's a great way to drive away the Mexican-American vote. Originally Posted by Tiny

That is being generous. It is an idiotic characterization and overly simplistic statement that his supporters do not have the imagination to see through. Meanwhile American industries continue to absorb all the immigrants that come here to work.
Lucas McCain's Avatar
Brot, well said and succinct. I knew I lost a lot of these Trump loving geniuses regarding immigrants when I went the simple labor economics explanation route which is way above their intellectual and comprehension pay grade about immigrants. I should have just kept it simple and not used common sense and logic like how Trump manipulates his puppets.
Yssup Rider's Avatar
No, you are.

thank you valued poster Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
If you continually say so….
  • Tiny
  • 12-19-2023, 10:17 AM
Are you trying to say some of Trump’s best friends are Jewish so the blood and soil talk can’t be real to him?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
No Yssup, it was a rebuttal to what you wrote, "His actual rhetoric is alarmingly similar to you-know-who." And also to the frequent references the media makes to Trump and Hitler. Just last night on CNN, there was a segment on Trump supporter Douglass Mackey, who allegedly tried to convince Twitter users they could vote for Hillary with text messages. Trump defended him, saying it was a joke. So CNN spends about 30 seconds on the alleged con and Trump's statement, and then the next 3 or 4 minutes on Mackey's history as an anti-Semite. So by extension Trump's antisemitic.

I pointed out Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner and their kids are Jewish. Actually Trump's view on Israel and Netanyahu may be as close to yours as anyone on this board. He's criticized Netanyahu, more so than Biden, but in general is 100% behind Israel, including what it's doing in Gaza now.

You and McCain have done a much better job of establishing how Trump's family, ex-wives, and dealings with undocumented workers could lead you to think he doesn't really believe the blood and soil talk.
Lucas McCain's Avatar
I've said it many times before; I don't think for a second that Trump is racist or passionately against illegal immigrants (as he portrays). He is an elitist. That's different. He'll tell his gullible puppets whatever the fuck they want to hear whether he believes it or not for their votes. Why not? I don't blame him. He'd be dumb not to do so. That's politics. Again, don't blame the playa, blame the game. And how easy is that game for someone like Trump to play with uneducated gullible paranoid MAGA clowns who believe the sky is falling?
  • Tiny
  • 12-19-2023, 12:12 PM
No, you are. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
Yep, Trump's blood line looks pretty darned poisoned based on Yssup's post #3. Poor kids, all that Slavic blood. (just kidding)
Are you trying to say some of Trump’s best friends are Jewish so the blood and soil talk can’t be real to him?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Well Trump did convert to Judaism in 2017. I think it's fair to assume he has Jewish friends.
  • Tiny
  • 12-19-2023, 12:32 PM
Well Trump did convert to Judaism in 2017. I think it's fair to assume he has Jewish friends. Originally Posted by Levianon17
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4...ish-president/
eyecu2's Avatar
Hanukkah has been celebrated at the whitehouse for a good while, and Trump was hardly the first guy to celebrate the holiday at the Whitehouse.
https://www.insider.com/white-house-...y-how-it-began

Jimmy Carter was the first president to recognize Hanukkah with a menorah lighting in 1979.

The first official White House Hanukkah party took place in 2001, hosted by George W. Bush.

President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama participated the White House Hanukkah party in 2013.

On a short note: Mark Levin is literally nothing but a FOX news moron selling his books on rage and touting his absolute faithfulness to Donald Trump.
Yssup Rider's Avatar
Well Trump did convert to Judaism in 2017. I think it's fair to assume he has Jewish friends. Originally Posted by Levianon17
Another bald faced lie.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...n-immigration/

And for the record, Levi, Trump is also full of shit as a Christmas Turkey.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-re...ious%20groups.
Yssup Rider's Avatar
Patriotic GOP elected officials are sick of Trump’s dog whistling rhetoric. Who’s with him? Auburn Football Coach-turned MAGAsshole Tommy Tuberville.

But sensible GOP electeds?

https://apple.news/A4KD2_nmASLaA4LiWseL9rg