I broke out my online dictionary for this one!

Very good thoughts, but no I do not care to recant.

For example, we go to a fine restaurant and on the menu are all of the prices for each item. One orders a meal that comes with a salad, but without drink or desert.

Then when they bring the meal they bring a drink you didn't order; you send it back. OK, no charge.

JR Originally Posted by JRLawrence

seems to me if a restaruant did the same crap "provider" who upsell, the restraunt would bring you your meal, steak, uncooked

"oh you want it cooked? well honey, that's extra to cook it, so gimmie more money, otherwise you got what you ordered, a steak for $$"

likewise a "provider" needs to show you a good time, that's why you are spending time with her
if she fails to do so, you give her a NO recommendation and then explain why you did that.

that seems to be an upsell that's bad, because you are being tricked about your product.
(ex: I'll sell you this 400 inch plasma for $12,, oh the cord? that's $3330!)

if a provider wants to offer other services for a price, there is no better time for her to ask then when you are with her, and it reminds you these gals arent your friends, they are doing a job, that's all
and while that makes your time with her shitty, you need to review that and let everyone know..EVEN IF YOU GIVE HER A YES

that's an not upsell because the pie doesnt change price, even if you buy 1 or 2

as an upsell is
"to try to persuade a customer to buy a more expensive item or to buy a related additional product at a discount"
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/upsell Originally Posted by bigcockpussylicker

urban dictionary "The "art" of tacking on high-priced options to an existing sale under the guise of customer service.
Every time Bill turns on his Sprint phone, it tries to upsell him on their backup service."

"to effect the sale of some other product with the sale of a major product.
If a bank provides a free visa card for a person who opens an account with it, it is said to be cross-selling the visa card product."

So if a hoogar wants to charge you and addl $50 for Greek that is an up sell, if she offers to have her 18 YO daughter join you, than that is a cross sale!!!

Understand now?

Originally Posted by RandB fan

you were too late
I had already edited the post to be accurate

sheesh man
calm down

Upselling is offensive and shrewd people see right through it. I can't stand getting my oil changed only to have the tech tell me about all this shit I don't want and don't need. If I wanted it I would just get it in the first place.

To me, an upsell is when the girl wants to charge extra for services that were assumed to be included. For instance, a woman on the 'escort' ads wants to charge extra for FS. Or a woman who advertises as "GFE" then wants to charge extra for services that are part of GFE.

To me, an upsell is when the girl wants to charge extra for services that were assumed to be included. For instance, a woman on the 'escort' ads wants to charge extra for FS. Or a woman who advertises as "GFE" then wants to charge extra for services that are part of GFE. Originally Posted by Kshunter

That's what it means to you! The definition says otherwise. Ya dig.

Very good thoughts, but no I do not care to recant.

They weren't thoughts, it came from an online dictionary.

It is about honesty with the customer. If a service was promised, then the seller has an obligation to provide what was promised. I have no problem with paying more, provided I have a choice.

Even with upselling, the service is still promised and probably provided. Well, according to your review it was.

What has happened is some girls don't want to deliver what is promised in the first place without extra money after the original price has been paid. Can you blame some guys for wanting their money back?

This has happened to you?..

The problem comes when you pay up front for services that are yet to delivered.

This isn't a problem, more like good business practice. Date don't start til I see benji's!


But the big question is: will the fucking you hope to get be worth the fucking you have already gotten?

It's hobbying, take a chance or call yo ATF!

This is very much like some of the guys I knew in the Marine Corps who where ready to retire and worried about going out into the civilian world where there was no one to tell them what to do, pathetic.

Pretty common of most soldiers getting out of the military. I did the same thing. Change can be scary. duh.

A lady must learn first to protect herself, so take the money upfront. But just because one has already received payment does't mean that the promises made, or implied, should not be fulfilled.

You already said this

Trust is important, and it works both ways.

um, yea this too

What do you do when you get the feeling in your gut that the guy you just met is not to be trusted. Are you in such a dire need for money that you will risk continuing the encounter? Listen to your gut, it may be the most important decision of your life.

I did not know Originally Posted by JRLawrence

Just admit, by definition, you been upsold! teeheehee

On a side note, Gemma's ass really really looks nice in that pic.

Just say'n.

I also charge a flat fee but if I have extras that I charge extra for I make sure thats in my ad like my video/pic options. GFE (Girlfriend Experience) that means you treat the gent like you would with your boyfriend, kissing, oral or what have you, if you dont I am sorry thats not gfe, a girl cant say they dont kiss there man, and obviously if hes requesting Gfe then thats what hes looking for a girlfriend experience.

Now if you have a HHR set up and then the time is ending and I ask "do you want to add another HHR" and you say "yes" Well I am sorry thats not upselling thats you needing another HHR and I would expect Hour donation.

Now some of you have your favorites just like us girls and if I see a guy enough and some how we have a ATF connection I dont keep track of time, and if I am not keeping track of time then I am surely not going to expect the guy to pay more if we were talking or just having fun, but I do that with guys mostly that have stayed loyal and seen me when I come to town, or that see me at least 1 a month or more. That usually isnt someone that I have just met, but it has happened too once in a while.

So if a hoogar wants to charge you and addl $50 for Greek that is an up sell, if she offers to have her 18 YO daughter join you, than that is a cross sale!!!

Understand now? Originally Posted by RandB fan

Nope, the additional $50 for greek is not an upsell, its an additional service thus requiring additional consideration.

Nope charging more for Greek is still an upsell. Not necessarily a bad thing...like pyramided said, it's considered an additional service. But it's still an upsell

50 bucks more for the hookers gas for oc is also an upsell, and if a hooker can't afford her gas or her hotel room then she obviously doesn't have her shit together and resorts to upselling. Bad bad bad

Upselling is not necessarily a bad thing. Everyone makes it sound like a dirty word but it's just another business tactic that many people use in sales.

This is just my understanding of course.

Nope, the additional $50 for greek is not an upsell, its an additional service thus requiring additional consideration. Originally Posted by pyramider

Short visit! What else could be expected.

You guys are cracking me up. But thanks for an excuse to check in to see where this thread and the prior have gone.
Above, Shayla mentions alacart. A few times here and in the earlier thread Gemma presents valid definitions of upsell. In the earlier thread Dallas presents the concept of guys doing research so the guys understand what a gals menu is.

Triangle and Woody get it. A couple of the other guys almost get it. Some don't. If a gal posts an ad, that's what it is. And as Shayla mentions, some gals simply have alacart, which also could include outcall or clock addons. Why can't some guys simply do the research?
I would think that the concept of upsell, for this boards definition, should only apply when there's a difference from a posted ad. Granted perhaps frequent on bp. But that's bp.

For the guys: Do your research. Do not expect the gals to discuss stuff or roses as that gets into pastry boy question issues. And as the other thread started off with, can easily get a gal upset, and I think, rightly so cause of the pastry boy or simple time waster things.

Ok, back to my civie event. Play safe.

At a certain level, you're arguing semantics. No definition can cover all the scenarios. But like the old definition of porn "I know it when I see it".

Early on I was in Vegas. Had a cutie on a casino floor give me a rate of $200 to go back to my room and play. We got there and I started getting undressed and asked her to as well. She said that her coming to the room was only for a HJ. If I wanted a CBJ it was $50 more. If I wanted her naked it was another $50 and if it wanted CFS is was $100 more. So my $200 date would have been $400. Of course, she had my $200 already. So now I either have to kick her out and lose $200 or just take a HJ. No way I'm paying more. I won't tell you what I did, but I did a total dick move to ruin her hair and, in my own way felt somewhat vindicated. Because at the time, I WAS PISSED. It was a lie and a scam.

Now, I've had other girls offer their FS rate and say they don't always offer Greek, but it was available for an additional $50. In a way, the two scenarios are the same. Yet they weren't. This provider was fulling willing to do the expected CFS date for the stated rate.

Also, I think there's a difference if a girl posts rates saying "GFE is $XX, Greek is $XX" etc as it is a stated menu. It's when you show up and everyone knows what the range of services costs and she's charging market rates but actually providing less service for that rate and then wants to, without warning until she has your money, inform you that to get what you want, you have to pay above market rates for the expected service.

*Pic removed - JCM