Lets me know when and where the rally is so I can drive by and wave!! Originally Posted by ToyzAs much as I want to call you a smart ass, this is totally realistic for most people, and part of why we can't have nice things. I don't like it, but I understand it.
- BiancaBonVivant
- 01-07-2016, 02:58 PM
- David.Douchehurst
- 01-07-2016, 03:03 PM
Some of us may have sailed on gilded yachts, while others might be simply shipwrecked, but we're all stuck on this same damned island for misfit toys ... Originally Posted by BiancaBonVivantAh've always been a big Burl Ives fan.
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- Cooper Barrett
- 01-07-2016, 03:04 PM
- Toyz
- 01-07-2016, 03:26 PM
As much as I want to call you a smart ass, this is totally realistic for most people, and part of why we can't have nice things. I don't like it, but I understand it. Originally Posted by BiancaBonVivantYes...while I do agree what we do SHOULD be a legal exchange between 2 consenting adults it's sadly still considered taboo.
Even though single with no wifey to take my stuff it's still impossible for most of us to get behind a publicized outrage.
- Mr Peabody
- 01-07-2016, 03:31 PM
Best quote is "sex trade is modern slavery". What they mean is the only teat you should be sucking on is the governments. They hate anything they cant control.
- Cooper Barrett
- 01-07-2016, 04:01 PM
National Media Contact
Savannah Sly – Board President – Sex Workers Outreach Project
savannah@swopusa.org
[For Immediate Release] On Tuesday, January 5, several individuals connected with The Review Board [TRB], a Seattle discussion forum for clients and adult workers, were arrested by the Bellevue Police department and charged with promoting prostitution. On Wednesday afternoon, the website was seized as part of an investigation by the King County Sheriff’s Office, the Bellevue Police Department, the King County Prosecuting Attorney’s Office, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Sex worker communities believe that the site may have been specifically targeted in connection with a raid on a massage parlor where non-native Asians worked or because non-Native Asian sex workers advertised through the website.
Sex Workers Outreach Project [SWOP] condemns the website seizure and shares local sex worker concerns about collateral damage the website’s closure will have on adult workers in Seattle and the Pacific Northwest–including non-native Asian sex workers. If the seizure was accompanied by a raid, we strongly condemn the raid and express concern over potential criminal penalties and how this will affect the women’s immigration status.
“Migrant sex workers, especially Asian migrant workers, are often inaccurately labeled as trafficking victims,” Savannah Sly, SWOP-USA Board President and former Seattle-based sex worker, said. “I don’t doubt that King County prosecutors will wave this is a victory against human trafficking, highlighting the presence of migrant Korean sex workers on TRB to indicate abuse. Just because a women came to the U.S. and works as an escort does not mean she did so involuntarily. These assumptions are blatantly racist and xenophobic. Many migrant workers in the sex trade, domestic work and agriculture emigrate and work voluntarily. It’s criminalization and stigma of sex work and immigration status that makes these workers so vulnerable, not the work itself.”
Along with raids, attacks on web-based communities like TRB harm both native and non-native sex workers. In addition to a discussion forum, TRB functioned as a free advertising platform for adult workers. Many adult workers in the Northwest relied on the site as a low-barrier and free way to advertise and work without management, indoors, especially subsequent to MyRedbook’s closure new barriers for using Backpage to advertise. “The site was valuable to a lot of sex workers,” Capri Sunshine, a local sex worker and the SWOP-Seattle media coordinator said. “It was free, undocumented workers without ID or credit cards could use it, and it was where most girls got the majority of their work. This has a lot of negative ramifications for sex workers.”
Seattle sex workers also lament the loss of a website that was regarded not only a valuable business resource but also a particularly tasteful one. Sunshine says TRB was heavily moderated to ensure it wasn’t being used to promote exploitation or harm. “And the discussion was respectful.” Now, Sunshine says, local workers are left with two options: those who can afford it will shift to expensive, high-barrier advertising websites while others may shift to working for an agency, outdoors, or another local board that is riddled with explicit language and hostile, disrespectful moderators.
The seizure of The Review Board follows a long patterns of attacks on the adult entertainment websites: the summer raid on Rentboy.com, the 2014 raid and seizure of My Redbook, and constant, relentless extra-legal pressure on advertising websites like Craigslist and Backpage.
“We already know that closing adult websites hurts sex workers and removes law enforcement’s ability to identify actual instances of trafficking” Savannah Sly, SWOP-USA Board President and former Seattle-based sex worker, said, pointing to research SWOP-Sacramento conducted following the closure of a similar website, MyRedbook. “It displaces sex workers. It jeopardizes the autonomy and safety of the most marginalized sex workers–especially non-native sex workers and sex workers of color, forcing them to rely on third parties or to engage in street-based sex work which is riskier. It disrupts communities. It increases the marginalization of an already marginalized group. And it doesn’t stop trafficking.”
According to Sunshine, Seattle sex workers are already experiencing ramifications of the seizure, Sunshine said. “Appointments are being canceled, the community is panicking–what are we going to do? Where are we going to advertise now? It’s created real paranoia.”
Sex workers have been advocating for decades that criminalization and policing of the sex trade and those profiled put communities at risk of violence and exploitation. Laws against the sex trade have always been used to police the bodies of marginalized communities, especially LGBTQ and communities of color. When sex workers are prosecuted under these laws, it can become harder for them to find mainstream work because of their criminal record. SWOP believes the closure of The Review Board is the latest in a long history of abuses of people in the sex trade that puts these communities in more vulnerable and often more dangerous situations.
“Sex workers in Seattle have spoken directly to city prosecutors about their safety concerns over these kinds of tactics. The blatant disregard for that self-advocacy by city officials is beyond insensitive, it’s a form of silencing and violence” Sly said. “Criminalized prohibition makes discrimination and violence possible, and this is a textbook example of how enforcement of laws criminalizing clients and third parties ultimately hurt sex workers the most.”
Savannah Sly – Board President – Sex Workers Outreach Project
savannah@swopusa.org
[For Immediate Release] On Tuesday, January 5, several individuals connected with The Review Board [TRB], a Seattle discussion forum for clients and adult workers, were arrested by the Bellevue Police department and charged with promoting prostitution. On Wednesday afternoon, the website was seized as part of an investigation by the King County Sheriff’s Office, the Bellevue Police Department, the King County Prosecuting Attorney’s Office, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Sex worker communities believe that the site may have been specifically targeted in connection with a raid on a massage parlor where non-native Asians worked or because non-Native Asian sex workers advertised through the website.
Sex Workers Outreach Project [SWOP] condemns the website seizure and shares local sex worker concerns about collateral damage the website’s closure will have on adult workers in Seattle and the Pacific Northwest–including non-native Asian sex workers. If the seizure was accompanied by a raid, we strongly condemn the raid and express concern over potential criminal penalties and how this will affect the women’s immigration status.
“Migrant sex workers, especially Asian migrant workers, are often inaccurately labeled as trafficking victims,” Savannah Sly, SWOP-USA Board President and former Seattle-based sex worker, said. “I don’t doubt that King County prosecutors will wave this is a victory against human trafficking, highlighting the presence of migrant Korean sex workers on TRB to indicate abuse. Just because a women came to the U.S. and works as an escort does not mean she did so involuntarily. These assumptions are blatantly racist and xenophobic. Many migrant workers in the sex trade, domestic work and agriculture emigrate and work voluntarily. It’s criminalization and stigma of sex work and immigration status that makes these workers so vulnerable, not the work itself.”
Along with raids, attacks on web-based communities like TRB harm both native and non-native sex workers. In addition to a discussion forum, TRB functioned as a free advertising platform for adult workers. Many adult workers in the Northwest relied on the site as a low-barrier and free way to advertise and work without management, indoors, especially subsequent to MyRedbook’s closure new barriers for using Backpage to advertise. “The site was valuable to a lot of sex workers,” Capri Sunshine, a local sex worker and the SWOP-Seattle media coordinator said. “It was free, undocumented workers without ID or credit cards could use it, and it was where most girls got the majority of their work. This has a lot of negative ramifications for sex workers.”
Seattle sex workers also lament the loss of a website that was regarded not only a valuable business resource but also a particularly tasteful one. Sunshine says TRB was heavily moderated to ensure it wasn’t being used to promote exploitation or harm. “And the discussion was respectful.” Now, Sunshine says, local workers are left with two options: those who can afford it will shift to expensive, high-barrier advertising websites while others may shift to working for an agency, outdoors, or another local board that is riddled with explicit language and hostile, disrespectful moderators.
The seizure of The Review Board follows a long patterns of attacks on the adult entertainment websites: the summer raid on Rentboy.com, the 2014 raid and seizure of My Redbook, and constant, relentless extra-legal pressure on advertising websites like Craigslist and Backpage.
“We already know that closing adult websites hurts sex workers and removes law enforcement’s ability to identify actual instances of trafficking” Savannah Sly, SWOP-USA Board President and former Seattle-based sex worker, said, pointing to research SWOP-Sacramento conducted following the closure of a similar website, MyRedbook. “It displaces sex workers. It jeopardizes the autonomy and safety of the most marginalized sex workers–especially non-native sex workers and sex workers of color, forcing them to rely on third parties or to engage in street-based sex work which is riskier. It disrupts communities. It increases the marginalization of an already marginalized group. And it doesn’t stop trafficking.”
According to Sunshine, Seattle sex workers are already experiencing ramifications of the seizure, Sunshine said. “Appointments are being canceled, the community is panicking–what are we going to do? Where are we going to advertise now? It’s created real paranoia.”
Sex workers have been advocating for decades that criminalization and policing of the sex trade and those profiled put communities at risk of violence and exploitation. Laws against the sex trade have always been used to police the bodies of marginalized communities, especially LGBTQ and communities of color. When sex workers are prosecuted under these laws, it can become harder for them to find mainstream work because of their criminal record. SWOP believes the closure of The Review Board is the latest in a long history of abuses of people in the sex trade that puts these communities in more vulnerable and often more dangerous situations.
“Sex workers in Seattle have spoken directly to city prosecutors about their safety concerns over these kinds of tactics. The blatant disregard for that self-advocacy by city officials is beyond insensitive, it’s a form of silencing and violence” Sly said. “Criminalized prohibition makes discrimination and violence possible, and this is a textbook example of how enforcement of laws criminalizing clients and third parties ultimately hurt sex workers the most.”
- Knocturnal
- 01-07-2016, 07:18 PM
Screw the Feds!
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- Observing
- 01-07-2016, 08:02 PM
You are toast if they decide to follow up...but that has always been the case..."WhixxZy in front of a jury and the prosecution says "and here it quotes you as seeing your SO, then GF, then another hoogar all in one night and performing like a Roman Gladiator"....the jury is gonna look at him...then look at the prosecutor...and laugh...."
Now...PROVING that you actually did anything you write about here is impossuble. In this instance the effort is to shut down the access, not launch massive arrests of chat board fiction writers....
I mean think about it...WhixxZy in front of a jury and the prosecution says "and here it quotes you as seeing your SO, then GF, then another hoogar all in one night and performing like a Roman Gladiator"....the jury is gonna look at him...then look at the prosecutor...and laugh.... Originally Posted by Toyz
NO SHIT!
Gravymeister gonna have to explain all his bloviating BULLSHIT...
- Little Monster
- 01-07-2016, 08:23 PM
Boo.....Fucking......Hoo
Good thing p411 is from Canada and AdultWork & punternet are in the UK. Fucken most hypocrite nation ever...
Good thing p411 is from Canada and AdultWork & punternet are in the UK. Fucken most hypocrite nation ever...
- Toyz
- 01-07-2016, 08:28 PM
- Observing
- 01-07-2016, 08:42 PM
Where is Mr."15 yrs. plus" expert arbiter of all things pusswah during these suppose hard times under fire?
Fuck!
We need the Roman Gladiator to "man up" and tell us lesser mortals what to do...
Fuck!
We need the Roman Gladiator to "man up" and tell us lesser mortals what to do...
- fun2come
- 01-07-2016, 08:44 PM
- tron
- 01-07-2016, 08:48 PM
LOL, just like fake handles, this too will rise from the ashes, remember ASPD, and of course there was the " big shutdown" of Craigs as well.... just keep an eye open.. it'll be back shortly, IF it goes away.. Originally Posted by nugletMaybe. SFRedbook hasn't come back yet.
Seems like someone would decide to run a website like this outside of the US, to avoid this sort of problem.
- 4funn
- 01-07-2016, 09:20 PM
Yes...while I do agree what we do SHOULD be a legal exchange between 2 consenting adults it's sadly still considered taboo. Originally Posted by ToyzIndeed!..
We live in a very sick world where we make "persona of the year" some TV dude that cuts off his dick and becomes a bitch.. "That is ok, encouraging and respectable" .. but promiscuity is a fking crime.. Fuk this!
- dodger
- 01-07-2016, 10:19 PM
but the challenge comes from people who are forced into 'the trade' ... human trafficking. we can't pretend it doesn't happen. that may have been part of the issue with the board that was shut down.
imo ... legalizing the hobby would go far in reducing sex trade human trafficking .. but what do i know ...
imo ... legalizing the hobby would go far in reducing sex trade human trafficking .. but what do i know ...