LADIES ONLY! Let's See Where This One Goes

And yet you advertise GFE for a set price, presumably for guys who you will see one time on your travels. Sure you may HOPE to see them again, and you may very well be so amazing that they hope to see you again. But that first date may not be repeated and there may be no connection.

So how do you advertise GFE? What exactly makes it a GFE session? Originally Posted by KCQuestor

If you want to see how I advertise, go to my showcase on here, my ad on P411, or my website. It is right there.

In 31 years in this industry, I have learned skills and ways of doing business that puts me out there in a very unique way. I don't see hobbyist until I can feel there is a connection or a reason to explore it further.

I am not going to waste his or my time going into a session feeling like a fake or an actress. He won't get the quality of time he is asking for and I will end up needing a massage and an hour in the hot tub to soak away the feelings of regret.

Unlike 99% of the providers, I do not need this to pay my bills. I own several businesses. This is my way to fill a void being single creates when the RWL is hectic and business based.

Because of this, I can offer a one time only 30 minute meet and greet if I have questions about a hobbyist and my connection. These are offered on a very limited basis. I do this when in my home area, as well as on tour. It gives us a chance to feel each other out in a safe neutral area. They have been very successful for me and I will continue to offer them for select clients.

Yes there are times when there is not a connection and one or the other of us chooses to no longer continue. It is a no harm no foul situation. I hold no grudge or refuse to give honest references to for the hobbyist. I would rather have a hobbyist be tactfully honest with me and help me to continue to improve, then to have him slaughter me on the boards.

I will not go into specifics on any forum. That is just begging for Barney Fife to come after me. I may not be the brightest bulb in the bucket, but I am not a dim wit.

XOXOX

Sarah Renee

If you want to see how I advertise, go to my showcase on here, my ad on P411, or my website. It is right there. Originally Posted by Sarah Renee

I dont go outside of this site much, to personal sites, etc
so when I look at a providers pics and I think I'm looking at one of Joseph Smith's wifes. I gotta pass
I like the ladies on here, most have great sense of who they are and what they want
while being funny and "into me" to make me think spending $$$$$$/hour is alright...
men are pigs. You got nothing to worry about. You know, pretty much have sex with anyone, fat, skinny, married, single, complete strangers, relatives
http://clinic-duty.livejournal.com/4285.html
While I'm sure you are someones cup of tea, just not mine.

I like pics that show off skin, NSFW are a bit extreme., but you do what works, right?
sorta
if driving in your car is fun and you take a girl you drive to a party, you get lost, but you had fun driving, right?
yes,
but you'd have even more fun at the party?
make sense?

While I'm sure you are someones cup of tea, just not mine. Originally Posted by johnnyretard

I am glad I am not everyone's cup of tea. How boring would that be?Everyone has their preferences. While it is completely unnecessary, I am not offended or hurt one bit by someone telling I am not for them.

Personally I prefer an older gentleman who prefers a intimate connection over a slam bam, thank you ma'am, the younger generation seems to prefer. There has to be a mental connection for me.

There is exceptions to the rules, however most young guys don't have the life experiences to truly appreciate the finer points that come with someone like me. It is just part of growing up in an instant gratification world that we are in these days. Not knocking anyone, just a fact of life.

I am glad you know what you are looking for and are finding it. It saves a lot of disappointment and frustration trying to figure it out. I know, I for one, am glad to not face a bad review just because we didn't click. Because I can guarantee it wouldn't be because of my skill set.

XOXOX

Sarah Renee

I advertise "gfe/pse/tantric/fetish all rolled into a bundle of excitement and an experience like no other".......I hate labels and stereotypes,so i just say "do what feels good & what "feels good for your client"!!!!

definate disconnect from what the ladies posting here view as GFE and what most mongers do. The ladies center on the image of passion, while the guys center on activity. Marketing is up to the individual, but to the majority of guys, GFE means kissing, DATY, and BBBJ. I'm sure that those who market their service as GFE and don't provide those services get questioned about it during first visits.

I trust the lady will forgive my intrusion as I correct her to some degree.

"GFE/PSE", madam, are not "labels" as they are used in the ladies advertising! Same could be said of "trantric" and "fetish". They are used and presented as services by the ladies, her ladyship included as indicated. "Mechanic" is a label, so is "barber". Barbers have a list of skills, so do mechanics. Each are hired and fired on those skills among other things. Escort/Masseuse would be labels. There is a level of skill sets involved with each isn't there? Those skills sets are subdivided into categories (GFE/PSE) and maybe further divided into sub categories (limited GFE). Under each category would be a list of skill sets, talents, etc or, as used in the OP, expectations. And as with mechanics and barbers, each escort/masseuse is hired and fired on those skill sets/expectations. Think hard, if you were to fill out a resume, would you list skill sets, talents, etc or a category? I am applying for an electrician job, my special skills is "wiring" (according to me). Obvious response is, "yeah, and?" "Wiring" is not a service is it? Making a lot of assumptions it could be a skill set but read my signature line.

Get the drift?

Hope I didn't insult you or piss you off but it would be a safe bet other guys will agree.

Whew, can't believe I typed all this shit!

I advertise "gfe/pse/tantric/fetish all rolled into a bundle of excitement and an experience like no other".......I hate labels and stereotypes,so i just say "do what feels good & what "feels good for your client"!!!! Originally Posted by DallasRain

GFE can be many things to many people
if you have bad Hygiene you may get YMMV ..
as in not the GFE you are hoping for

GFE and I do my best to make you and myself feel at ease when we first meet or if it's the 20th time ...GFE get's better with each encounter as you get to know what and how makes you both click toghter ..

it works on both sides what if I have been thinking cool this guy is into GFE and I'll get all worked up and what's on my mine is cool he's going to be just want I need today to get me off and he comes in and just wam bam and out he may be in a hurry and just want's to get off
if you are, then I may not be for you...
I need to get deep in to the whole session
in order to give the GFE I Dreiser to give ..
,,
so GFE if that's what you really need or want make sure you ask the right question or read reviews ,, ( you may disagree )

But I do love making out and getting all worked up ....
I do love being GFE ..... many things to offer in GFE event with me
How You Percent Yourself In Your Advertising
You Need Be All You Say You Are !!

+1

This is pretty much the same way I think of it. You get all the perks of a girlfriend with none of the clinging, drama, or complaining that comes with a girl you pick up from match.com. It's basically a NSA relationship without the potential of your girl on the side demanding marriage or getting jealous that you're seeing another girl. Hell, most GFE girls I know would be more interested in working out a duo date if you spill the beans on having another favorite than they would be in throwing a fit.

I personally prefer being an hourly girlfriend over having a real world boyfriend. Dudes my age (in general) are morons and clingy as hell. Mature guys have their shit together and that is honestly hot as hell. Originally Posted by Mina Harker

What do we have to do to become a regular? Or having a relationship? We are still customers, spending just an hour. I have seen a person few times, she is travelling but when she is here, I have to find out by myself. And after she is very busy and hard to find a time. I will say personally that once a month will be my quota but I would rather to see her each time instead of trying someone else.

a few weeks ahead of time so they have first dibs on the day and time
and know I'm coming into town where and when
A Regular would be once a month or two times a moth
or for me I only tour every 2nd month so reg would be someone I ssee every time in town .. but some may have other ideals on what they feel it is .... A regular to me is someone I get to know well and listen about what's going on in our lives ..

What do we have to do to become a regular? Or having a relationship? We are still customers, spending just an hour. I have seen a person few times, she is travelling but when she is here, I have to find out by myself. And after she is very busy and hard to find a time. I will say personally that once a month will be my quota but I would rather to see her each time instead of trying someone else. Originally Posted by coolsperman

Preeee-cisely the point and still no answer! There is obviously and clearly a clear idea of what it is and what it is not in the mind of the user. Would there be a "service" discription of "limited GFE"? What's being limited?

You're describing a mind set but using it as a service.

GFE can be many things to many people Originally Posted by LustyBustyGina38FF

Again, the point of this exercise! What are we (guys) "hoping for"? What can we expect?

not the GFE you are hoping for Originally Posted by LustyBustyGina38FF

In my OP I addressed reading reviews. I am 110% confident you don't need to be told that ANY review showing in activities or ROS "Total GFE" or "Limited GFE" or "partial PSE" or some other such thing, only, would be rejected as absolutely useless! Nay, those line items would include individual and specific "activities", "services", "expectations" and "hopes" from the prespective of the writer or reader. Thie idea is to list those "activities", "services", "expectations" and "hopes" as a STANDARD for "GFE" and "PSE" to REDUCE the time it would take to go through all those reviews searching to find the "activities", "services" and "expectations" we "hope" for!

or read reviews Originally Posted by LustyBustyGina38FF

It is totally apparent this is NOT a question for the women. It is up to us men to, dare I say, dictate a standard for "GFE" and "PSE" and let women decide if they want to subscribe to that standard. My attempt to do the right thing and get women to set their own standard has FAILED miserably. Maybe I'm just not smart enough to ask the right question . . . ?

Do doctors and dentists have this much trouble pulling out babies and teeth?

WOW!

I have no idea what limited GFE is but I'm GFE.

I'm usually all over a guy the minute he walks through the door. Kissing, touching, caressing, undressing, the entire gf experience of a secret lover. We fuck, we sweat, we pull hair and slap butts! Candles burning, massage oil ready and lots of smiling and teasing going on.....

It is totally apparant this is NOT a question for the women. It is up to us men to, dare I say, dictate a standard for "GFE" and "PSE" and let women decide if they want to subscribe to that standard. My attempt to do the right thing and get women to set their own standard has FAILED miserably.

WOW! Originally Posted by dumars

You are over complicating the issue. Just like ever single person is different so will their views on the things around them.

Most can not/will not post the specifics for fear of saying the wrong thing and putting themselves on LEO radar. The safest thing to do...Get verified with the provider you wish to see, and then have a detailed conversation with her IN PERSON. You should be able to tell by your conversation on the phone if there is chemistry or not.

Let's face it...CHEMISTRY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR TO A GFE SESSION! Without it, you just have a hookup. As everyone who answered you pointed to or hinted at...it is about having a connection. It is a sense of companionship that goes beyond a slam bam thank you ma'am. It honestly isn't about the menu. That's were people get confused. GFE is a FS with intimacy and chemistry. When the chemistry is there it just happens. There maybe something that don't fall into a GFE but that is what Fetish Sessions are for.

To make it as simple as I possibly can make it...GFE is the girlfriend without the everyday commitment and drama.

PSE is just that your time to live out your own porn fantasy.

BTW....For those using GFE just because you had a good time and actually was a slam bam just about the hookup time...please stop calling it a GFE. You confuse the rest of the guys when they get the same service but were expecting the king treatment.

Be safe and have fun. AND PLEASE, don't over think it...just do it!

XOXOX

Sarah Renee

LADIES ONLY:

Lots of you ladies use one or even both, and modify either, of the famous and certainly overused acronyms in your advertising or boasts as a service or level of service. Yet, so far as I know there is no posted or published definition on what defines either, that is, sets a standard and both have been used for years and years! If there is one, nobody uses or refers to it.

So, in hopes, not a lofty goal let's try to set a standard or level of expectation, a mind set if you will on what a client can expect when GFE, PSE is used in advertising. What can a client expect when he knocks on the door or opens the door . . . service wise? "Activities" and ROS is helpful, to be sure but, frankly, a lot of work. Afterall, both only state what happened that one time.

Case in point for all this? How about "Services Offered Escort (GFE)" And what the fuck is "(Limited GFE)"? Sometimes used along side "(GFE)" . . . ? No question in my mind the lady has a standard in her mind on what that means but it's in her mind, nowhere else!!

So ladies, what is GFE? What is PSE?

Let's all hope we can make a standard for KC. Too lofty for nationwide? Maybe too lofty for KC! Time will tell! What's it gonna be?

Originally Posted by dumars

Within a Provider Showcase, the Services Offered is a listing within the header Services & Availability, which begins with Donations.

Services Offered: Check My Reviews / Escort (GFE) / Escort (Limited GFE) / Escort (PSE) / Fetishes / Massage Only

These are likely intended to be vague so as to avoid specifically associating sex acts for compensation. Feel free to search the forum "A Question of Legality" http://eccie.net/forumdisplay.php?f=7 for additional input.

we sweat, we pull hair and slap butts! Candles burning, massage oil ready and lots of smiling and teasing going on..... Originally Posted by Gemma34

Thanks! Now I need a session with you!

LMBO!

XOXOX

Sarah Renee

Within a Provider Showcase, the Services Offered is a listing within the header Services & Availability, which begins with Donations. Originally Posted by algrace

Some do, some simply list "GFE" and assorted variations. Look around.

These are likely intended to be vague so as to avoid specifically associating sex acts for compensation Originally Posted by algrace

I know that! Reinforced by the responses here. However, upon further exploration, some/many ALSO list specifics elsewhere in their profile or web site.

AGAIN, by establishing a standard, NO SPECIFICS would have to be listed ANYWHERE. 'Cept, maybe as a sticky on one of the advertise or review forums. The "services" would already be understood. "Etched in stone" if you will. No guess work, no questions, no confusion for anybody.

You mention legalities, yet it is perfectly acceptable, nay REQUIRED, to list specifics on the activities line of every review. And EVERYONE DOES, don't they? AGAIN, if those "specifics" are not listed on the activities line the review would be rejected, wouldn't it? Don't have to be a CIA analyst to associate those activities with the ladies name and number/email/url on the top of the review. With a set standard "GFE", and maybe it's variations, or "PSE" would be the ONLY thing required or necessary. Specifics could be brought up in the ROS section.

So, if legal association is the argument it wouldn't take a homicide detective to figure it out. Fact is, the only way to be disassociated is to contact a mod and have them delete the review and thus the association and that the mods will do and have done. Ain't that right mods?
Too much typing! Whew!!