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Charles,

I don't think that you can speak for most ladies when it comes to whether or not the ladies speak to the gents before, during or afterwards. Originally Posted by MsElena

True, I can't speak for most ladies. But they have spoken for themselves on this board. They have reported that they don't like to spend a lot of time on the phone with hobbyists prior to the meet (it reduces the rate), and they don't like it when they call several times after the meet (no one likes a clingy client). You can search for the threads as well as I can, but they are there.

It's dangerous to propose that you know what is going on in other people's minds and hearts. The same comment can construed, or misconstrued, in many different ways. When you think you know what other people are thinking and doing, it's called 'paranoia', and most people find it a very unattractive trait, regardless which sex in which it occurs.

No one hates talking to her clients. Some men have no idea what the women go through every day...nor do they care to know. Some are so busy trying to figure it out they're missing the forest for the trees.

I have an ATF. Me and her developed a connection after many rolls in the hay. It all began with a mutual respect between us and then as we spoke more we became sort of friends and everything got much much more fun

It's not so much that they hate talking to clients...

It's kind of like a cop that hears every excuse on the planet and over time becomes very jaded. Nit that he loses compassion or passion for people but feels it better to head the BS off by cutting it off before it starts. Nothing wrong with that. Unfortunately it causes guys that are respectful to become cynical towards providers in general...

I for one have had that "click" or whatever word you wanna use before. In a first and only time meet no less... It does happen. I must say that it was no ordinary roll in the hay. It was an exceptional roll in the HAY

All you gents who are living on "fantasy island" need to remember one thing. Take the "donation" out of the equation, and your so called "relationship" will end pretty quick, as in emmediatly.

That's an interesting statement Jackie... Now while I see your point and more times than not what you're saying is true, it is not always the case. Also just because this is a provider/client relationship, which is a business relationship does not make it any less of an interaction between two people where two humans can "click". No different than how two people doing business together can end up becoming friends.

The "donation" does not make us any less human...

The "donation" does not make us any less human... Originally Posted by Eccie Addict

Agree!

.....roll in the hay really, just a roll in the hay?

If it is then why do we have the term All Time Favorite?

Personally it isn't allways just a roll in the hay. Sometimes it's much much more. Sometimes that even happens with a provider. How many of you feel that it is "always" just a roll in the hay? Originally Posted by Eccie Addict

You contact someone whom you've never met. You go to a location that she really doesn't call home ( Hotel). You lay down an envelope containing currency for her time. Something physical in the sexual realm takes place. You leave. Another will repeat that same routine before the day is done. What else would you really define this interaction as. A devine romantic connection between two romantics or just a " Roll In The Hay". If a Client and a Provider some how make some sort of connection its of the very lowest form. Unless she quits providing and concentrates all her efforts on their impending relationship. Other than that she has a client she just likes and sees more often than others. About it.

You contact someone whom you've never met. You go to a location that she really doesn't call home ( Hotel). You lay down an envelope containing currency for her time. Something physical in the sexual realm takes place. You leave. Another will repeat that same routine before the day is done. What else would you really define this interaction as. A devine romantic connection between two romantics or just a " Roll In The Hay". If a Client and a Provider some how make some sort of connection its of the very lowest form. Unless she quits providing and concentrates all her efforts on their impending relationship. Other than that she has a client she just likes and sees more often than others. About it. Originally Posted by acp5762

Well that just means that to YOU a roll in the hay really is "just" a roll in the hay

It's not so much that they hate talking to clients...

It's kind of like a cop that hears every excuse on the planet and over time becomes very jaded. Nit that he loses compassion or passion for people but feels it better to head the BS off by cutting it off before it starts. Nothing wrong with that. Unfortunately it causes guys that are respectful to become cynical towards providers in general...

I for one have had that "click" or whatever word you wanna use before. In a first and only time meet no less... It does happen. I must say that it was no ordinary roll in the hay. It was an exceptional roll in the HAY Originally Posted by Eccie Addict

Agreed - lol -

I most definitely have had clients I clicked with. We talk and laugh and really enjoy each other. Sometimes its nothing more than a roll in the hay but there are times when I have a genuine connection with a client.

All you gents who are living on "fantasy island" need to remember one thing. Take the "donation" out of the equation, and your so called "relationship" will end pretty quick, as in emmediatly. Originally Posted by Jackie S

Take the donation out of most real relationships and they end pretty quickly too. Please don't forget you guys pay for it anyway. Some of you are paying for it in your civilian lives, and still aren't getting what you want. At least this way you can have a symbiotic relationship where you're both getting what you're looking for.

A person's attitudes towards what they are looking for depends on the mindset of the people involved. Some people like the idea of getting some strange. And even these moments are better when you take the time and see the humanity in each other. Many don't start seeing ladies intentionally looking to find a friend, but they do. And the smart ones just accept the terms of that friendship and it results in an enjoyable time for both parties.

And the smart ones just accept the terms of that friendship and it results in an enjoyable time for both parties. Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

Translated: Don't expect too much or be too critical. If you do, you'll just be disappointed, and it ain't the lady's fault (after all, nothing is).

From my experiences they've all been pretty much "Roll In The Hay" Sessions except for one. Haven't found the connection to make the session as one I would go back and do again. Guess I'm hard to please. Originally Posted by shorty

Hey Shorty, Charles hacked in to your account and is posting under your name.

Humans have pheromones just like other animals. Modern science takes the position that their function is not really understood. Duh. What function would they have? Most scientists are in dire need of getting more pussy, I guess a lot of them have never experienced that feeling of being drawn like a bug to the light, but it's definitely real.

In civvie life people should be just open and honest and willing to take risks. But they aren't, so with all the bullshit that comes along with dating most of the good chemistry gets spoiled.

Despite what the cynics say, it can also happen just as easily with a provider. The chemistry part - literally chemistry. Two people that get together regardless of the circumstances, and find they have just that certain "smell". Any woman who is providing and also even marginally healthy mentally will put up a lot of barriers to any kind of intimacy. Occasionally some are also willing to at least partially lower those barriers as well. The it can definitely happen because if the women chooses to lower her barriers you don't have to cut through all the bullshit of dating/relationship stuff.

It depends on the woman, and I don't think it is ever as intense as it could be because I don't think anyone ever completely drops the barriers to intimacy. But yeah, you can have real chemistry with anyone who is chemically compatible,and it can be more than just a roll in the hay.

Although I know it can happen, it's not much more than a roll in the hay in a practical sense because it is certainly utterly foolish to think there is any kind of future in it. But in the moment, it is uncommon but not impossible and you can have at least a little more sometimes - for a little while. Just don't kid yourself and think you can actually do something with that.