Questions for the 'confiscation' advocates...

Its socialist liberals they what the us to be like Europe, Venezuela etc With the billarys of the world in charge , what could go wrong

Oh yea and the fbi keeps people safe

The quote allegedly made by Obama was reported by John Lott in his book "At the Brink". No corroboration. And let's just say John Lott is not the most unbiased person on this planet. So I tend to not believe it.

I am not sure exactly what Feinstein is getting at with her statement. It is NOT a proposal to ban guns. I would agree with you or anyone else that if any politician would support a total ban on guns it would be her. But she has at no time during her tenure in the House proposed legislation asking for a total ban on guns. BTW, I wish Feinstein would just go away.

And as for the statement from Rahm Emanuel, I could not find the context in which it was stated, but it is also NOT a proposal to ban ALL guns. I have no idea what an "entirely new class of guns" is.
Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Semantics....

The point is that there are politicians who want to do so.

And I actually cannot find a reliable quote on Obama saying that so I need to retracthe that.

The quote allegedly made by Obama was reported by John Lott in his book "At the Brink". No corroboration. And let's just say John Lott is not the most unbiased person on this planet. So I tend to not believe it. Odumbo is the demonstrable liar. https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/gregory...-people-should

I am not sure exactly what Feinstein is getting at with her statement. It is NOT a proposal to ban guns. I would agree with you or anyone else that if any politician would support a total ban on guns it would be her. But she has at no time during her tenure in the House proposed legislation asking for a total ban on guns. BTW, I wish Feinstein would just go away. “If I could have banned them all – ‘Mr. and Mrs. America turn in your guns’ – I would have!” - Dianne Feinstein.



And as for the statement from Rahm Emanuel, I could not find the context in which it was stated, but it is also NOT a proposal to ban ALL guns. Yeah, it is, but wrongly attributed to Emanuel. It was actually a Clinton policy adviser, Jose Cerda, who sought through the "Gun Control Act’s oft-abused 'sporting purpose' test to prohibit the importation of 58 types of rifles". I have no idea what an "entirely new class of guns" is. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Jose Ceda's remark is Exhibit "A" for reasons gun owners refrain from "negotiation" with anti-gunners. Even when an agreement is reached and signed, anti-gunners always seek to "redefine" the meaning of the text at later dates.

One need only look at the anti-gun crowd's mock outrage that an 18-year old can buy a rifle when he can't even buy a beer. Yet, it is this same crowd that raised the legal drinking age from 18 to 21 who are now pretending such an idea was carved in stone in the age of Moses -- when they are the deceitful culprits who perpetrated that change.

"Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe." - Dianne Feinstein

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

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I am not sure exactly what Feinstein is getting at with her statement.

But she has at no time during her tenure in the House proposed legislation asking for a total ban on guns.

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I believe she never served in "the House." May be she said it while she was in the Senate.

And I also believe she is "going away"!

There will be , in the future more restrictions on guns and abortions.

Suppose for a moment that you get your way. Congress passes confiscation legislation and all of the law abiding citizens give up their guns (they're the only ones who would. Criminals won't. They don't give a shit about laws.)

The next school shooter is out there somewhere and he's already got his gun(s).
In the aftermath, what would you do next? What would you want then?

Another exercise in futility??? Originally Posted by gfejunkie

My question would be how would the govt enforce going after everyone's guns?? Would they send military to accompany the police as they go door to door?

Wouldn't have a clue. It's their fantasy. Not mine.

Semantics....

The point is that there are politicians who want to do so.

And I actually cannot find a reliable quote on Obama saying that so I need to retracthe that. Originally Posted by grean

Thank you for the retraction.

I don't doubt that some politicians would like to ban all guns. Obviously they won't come out and say it. Even Feinstein whom I believe would come closest to wanting a total gun ban. I do take exception to people putting liberals into a single category as people who want to ban guns. No one I know wants that.

You probably weren't on this forum a couple of years ago when JD Barleycorn ran a survey asking people on this forum their views on gun control. 1 person wanted to ban all guns. 6 people wanted no gun control at all. The majority were in the middle.

I believe she never served in "the House." May be she said it while she was in the Senate.

And I also believe she is "going away"! Originally Posted by LexusLover

My mistake on saying she was a member of the House.


Well, we finally agree on something. I don't know when she is "going away" but I hope it is soon.

Jose Ceda's remark is Exhibit "A" for reasons gun owners refrain from "negotiation" with anti-gunners. Even when an agreement is reached and signed, anti-gunners always seek to "redefine" the meaning of the text at later dates.

One need only look at the anti-gun crowd's mock outrage that an 18-year old can buy a rifle when he can't even buy a beer. Yet, it is this same crowd that raised the legal drinking age from 18 to 21 who are now pretending such an idea was carved in stone in the age of Moses -- when they are the deceitful culprits who perpetrated that change. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Again, Dianne Feinstein was referring ONLY to assault weapons when she made that comment.

"I take Dianne Feinstein at her word when she says that if she had 51 votes in the Senate for 'Mr. and Ms. America, turn in all of your guns,' they would do it," Cox told host Chris Wallace Oct. 8.


Cox is off target, because he said Feinstein said she wanted to take away all guns. In reality, back in 1995, Feinstein said she wanted to take away all assault rifles.

Source: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...instein-wante/

Yes, I read the quote from John Lott. He has little to no credibility to me so if you want to believe him, go for it. But I hardly stand alone in my opinion of him.

https://thinkprogress.org/debunking-...-5456e83cf326/

https://www.cato.org/blog/fatal-flaw...-crime-arizona

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.19d3c7ff95c0

https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/20...g-apart/218120

The confiscation idea is beyond futile. It will never happen. That's not to day there aren't those who, regardless of what that would entail, would be all for it.

I believe the ATF under Obama was looking into basically outlawing the .223/5.56 ammo.

"Nothing more worthless than an unloaded gun."

-Tony Soprano

I don't know when she is "going away" but I hope it is soon. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I heard she was not going to seek re-election, but that may have been questions about her health. I looked around and it appears she has announced she will seek re-election. Apparently her pacemaker has "kicked in" and is functioning correctly!

Again, Dianne Feinstein was referring ONLY to assault weapons when she made that comment.
"I take Dianne Feinstein at her word when she says that if she had 51 votes in the Senate for 'Mr. and Ms. America, turn in all of your guns,' they would do it," Cox told host Chris Wallace Oct. 8.

Cox is off target, because he said Feinstein said she wanted to take away all guns. In reality, back in 1995, Feinstein said she wanted to take away all assault rifles.

Yes, I read the quote from John Lott. He has little to no credibility to me so if you want to believe him, go for it. But I hardly stand alone in my opinion of him. Whereas I KNOW Odumbo is a fucking lib-retard liar, speedy; so, Lott is infinitely more honest than Odumbo. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

There you go being a stupid, equivocating lib-retard like Feinstein again, speedy. "Assault rifles" are capable of automatic fire, speedy. Automatics are already outlawed unless you have a Federal license, speedy. The AR-15 is not an automatic, speedy, but that is the rifle lib-retards like you and Feinstein continue to target, speedy. Fuck your equivocation, speedy.