Sydney Powell's defense: Only dumbasses would believe that voter fraud shit I was spreading!

The following is a condensed version of the relevant facts. The subject has been well covered and the heritage article's many ...mis-statements have been debunked in other threads in this forum.

Flynn called the Russian ambassador on a tapped line. Not on Flynn's end, on the Russian end. Because they're the Russians. The calls were monitored/recorded. They discussed the sanctions in place on Russia as well as an upcoming UN Security Council resolution.
When the FBI interviewed Flynn, he was offered the chance to lawyer up. He declined. The FBI knew what Flynn had discussed. They asked if sanctions had been discussed. Flynn said no. In other words, he lied to the FBI. He admitted that in his plea bargain.
The Logan act was briefly discussed. That wasn't the reason for the interview. There was a counterintelligence concern because the Russians knew Flynn had lied and was vulnerable to blackmail. The interviewing agents didn't say they didn't think he lied. They said he didn't display the "tells" that many people display when they lie. A talent a high ranking intelligence official should have. Trump fired Flynn for lying to Pence.

The heritage article was murky at best and contained numerous omissions and misrepresented information.


"Dec. 22 — Flynn calls Kislyak and asks if Russia would delay or defeat an upcoming U.N. Security Council resolution vote that sought to condemn Israel’s building of settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. The Obama administration agreed to allow the resolution to come up for a vote — angering Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. (A day later, the U.N. resolution would pass, with Russia voting in favor and the U.S. abstaining from voting.)

Dec. 29 — With less than a month remaining in office, Obama announces “a number of actions in response to the Russian government’s aggressive harassment of U.S. officials and cyber operations aimed at the U.S. election in 2016.”

In a phone call with Kislyak, Flynn asks that Russia refrain from retaliating to the U.S. sanctions. Kislyak agrees that Russia would “moderate its response to those sanctions” as a result of his request, according to charges later filed against Flynn by the U.S. special counsel’s office. (Flynn’s conversation with the Russian ambassador would not become public until next year.)

Dec. 30 — Russian President Putin issues a statement saying that Russia would not retaliate for the U.S. sanctions. Putin says he hoped to improve relations with the United States “based on the policies of the Trump Administration.”

Trump tweets, “Great move on delay (by V. Putin) – I always knew he was very smart!”

2017
Jan. 12 — The Washington Post reports that Flynn and Kislyak spoke on Dec. 29, the day that the U.S. announced new sanctions on Russia in response to the cyberattacks during the 2016 presidential election. Incoming White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer denies that the call was about U.S. sanctions. “The call centered on the logistics of setting up a call with the president of Russia and the president-elect after he was sworn in,” Spicer said. “And they exchanged logistical information on how to initiate and schedule that call. That was it, plain and simple.”

Jan. 15 — Vice President-elect Mike Pence says Flynn and Kislyak did not discuss U.S. sanctions on Russia. “They did not discuss anything having to do with the United States’ decision to expel diplomats or impose censure against Russia,” Pence says.

Jan. 20 — Trump is inaugurated as the 45th president of the United States.

Jan. 22 — On the same day that Flynn is sworn in as the national security adviser, the Wall Street Journal reports that U.S. counterintelligence agents have investigated Flynn’s communications with Russian officials.

Jan. 24 — Two days after he takes office as national security adviser, Flynn is interviewed by FBI agents. He is asked about two conversations that he had with Kislyak, the Russian ambassador to the United States, in December 2016 when Flynn was still a private citizen and before Trump took office.

Flynn tells the FBI agents that he did not ask Kislyak, in a Dec. 29, 2016, conversation, for Russia to refrain from retaliating after the Obama administration announced sanctions that day against Russia for interfering in the 2016 elections. He also says that he did not ask Kislyak, in a Dec. 22, 2016, conversation for Russia to delay or defeat a U.N. Security Council resolution, approved Dec. 23, 2016, that would have condemned Israel’s building of settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Flynn would later plead guilty to lying to the FBI about both of those conversations with Kislyak.

Jan. 25 — The House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence announces that it will investigate Russia’s efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election and “any intelligence regarding links between Russia and individuals associated with political campaigns.”

Jan. 26 — Acting Attorney General Sally Yates meets with White House counsel Donald McGahn in his office. She tells McGahn that high-ranking administration officials, including Vice President Pence, had made statements “about General Flynn’s conduct that we knew to be untrue.” She was referring to administration statements that Flynn did not discuss U.S. sanctions against Russia with the Russian ambassador. (Her meeting with McGahn would not be disclosed until Yates testified before Congress on May 8.)

Jan. 28 — Trump receives a congratulatory phone call from Putin.

Feb. 9 — The Washington Post reports that Flynn “privately discussed U.S. sanctions against Russia with that country’s ambassador to the United States during the month before President Trump took office, contrary to public assertions by Trump officials,” citing unnamed current and former officials.

Feb. 13 – Flynn resigns. He acknowledges that he misled Pence and others in the administration about his conversations with Kislyak, the Russian ambassador. “I inadvertently briefed the Vice President Elect and others with incomplete information regarding my phone calls with the Russian Ambassador,” Flynn says."

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/12/mi...ssia-timeline/

In the meantime, Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia and Arizona have opened new investigations on election fraud.

Georgia for example:


https://api.parler.com/l/EyBEJ

It’s happening in other states too. Antrim County Mi is the only place a judge let a forensic study of Dominion machines. Small county of 14,000 people. 6000 votes were switched from Trump to Biden. The error rate from these machines was 68%. It all true. Just think of the massive fraud in Detroit?

Well,
So lawyer's think they can lie on court paperwork??
She's gonna have a tough time selling that. My team had gotten a few lawyers disbarred for less.
I'm not saying there wasn't some, I'm saying she claimed to have a truckload, but she herself had zero to show the judges.

Well,
So lawyer's think they can lie on court paperwork??
She's gonna have a tough time selling that. My team had gotten a few lawyers disbarred for less.
I'm not saying there wasn't some, I'm saying she claimed to have a truckload, but she herself had zero to show the judges. Originally Posted by Unique_Carpenter

https://www.abajournal.com/news/arti...leading-motion

Talk about lying.

In the meantime, Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia and Arizona have opened new investigations on election fraud.

Georgia for example:


https://api.parler.com/l/EyBEJ

It’s happening in other states too. Antrim County Mi is the only place a judge let a forensic study of Dominion machines. Small county of 14,000 people. 6000 votes were switched from Trump to Biden. The error rate from these machines was 68%. It all true. Just think of the massive fraud in Detroit? Originally Posted by bambino

No, not true. And that information was debunked some time ago.
I'm open to new and true information. Please let me know when some results that are proven show up.



Donald Trump stated on December 15, 2020 in a tweet:
“68% error rate in Michigan Voting Machines. Should be, by law, a tiny percentage of one percent.”

December 15, 2020
Trump tweet wrongly suggests there were defects with Michigan voting machines


In a Dec. 15 tweet, Trump claimed there was a "68% error rate in Michigan Voting Machines. Should be, by law, a tiny percentage of one percent."

He suggested Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson would face legal scrutiny for the alleged errors. "Did Michigan Secretary of State break the law? Stay tuned!" Trump wrote.

Trump was reacting to a consultant’s report that a judge made public Monday in connection with an election lawsuit in Antrim County, in northern Michigan, where a misapplied software update initially led to incorrect unofficial results being reported on election night. But Trump’s tweet misinterprets the findings of the report, which itself presents a misleading picture.

Michigan vote tabulators do not read ballots incorrectly 68% of the time. Nor is that statement true if applied only to the Antrim County tabulators in the Nov. 3 election. And the report Trump reacted to, while ambiguous and inaccurate on the subject of errors, does not make that claim.

The report is signed by cybersecurity analyst Russell James Ramsland Jr. of Allied Security Operations Group, a firm whose representatives have provided analyses and affidavits for lawsuits brought by Trump allies, falsely alleging voter fraud and election irregularities.

In one such analysis on voter turnout, Ramsland mistook voting jurisdictions in Minnesota for Michigan towns. In another, filed in support of a federal lawsuit in Michigan, he made inaccurate claims about voter turnout in various municipalities, misstating them as much as tenfold.

The scrutiny of Antrim’s ballots arises from an error in the reporting of unofficial results on election night, which initially showed voters in the heavily GOP county casting more votes for Democrat Joe Biden than for Trump. Trump allies have seized on that error, and other alleged irregularities, in their fruitless quest for evidence of election rigging through equipment made by Dominion Voting Systems.

State and county officials say the reporting error, which was corrected soon after the election, was the result of human error by County Clerk Sheryl Guy, a Republican, before the election.

Guy said that after learning some candidates in local races were omitted from the ballot, she needed to update the ballot information stored on media drives attached to the tabulating machines. But she mistakenly made the changes only in some precincts, instead of all of them, leading to mismatched data when the unofficial countywide tallies were being compiled, and an inaccurate report of the unofficial results, Guy and Benson have said.

The investigation of Antrim’s equipment arose from a different issue in the case. In granting a request for "forensic imaging" of the data and software inside the Dominion tabulators, Judge Kevin Elsenheimer of Michigan’s 13th Circuit Court was responding to concerns about a closely decided proposal to allow a marijuana dispensary in the village of Central Lake. Ramsland’s firm, Allied Security, conducted the investigation.

In his report, Ramsland claimed, "The allowable election error rate established by the Federal Election Commission guidelines is of 1 in 250,000 ballots (.0008%)." On the Antrim machines, he wrote, he "observed an error rate of 68.05%."

The FEC regulates campaign finance, not voting equipment, and has no such guideline. The federal agency that does deal with voting equipment is the Election Assistance Commission. Antrim County’s Dominion tabulators are certified by the EAC. In Michigan, 65 out of the state’s 83 counties use voting systems manufactured by Dominion.
Moreover, the error rate identified by Ramsland is not a measure of ballot counting errors. Ramsland did not have access to the paper ballots as part of his investigation, according to Jake Rollow, a spokesman for the Secretary of State’s office. Ramsland acknowledged that he was not referring to ballot tabulation errors, even though the purported benchmark he compared it to is "1 in 250,000 ballots."

Rather, Ramsland wrote, the error rate applies to the 15,676 "total lines or events" in Antrim’s tabulation logs. "Most of the errors were related to configuration errors that could result in overall tabulation error or adjudication," he wrote, without giving more detail or saying that they did result in such errors.

The EAC certification requirements that Antrim’s Dominion machines had to meet establish certain error thresholds for the computer code that runs the systems, but the tabulation logs track something else.

Tammy Patrick, a senior adviser to the elections program at Democracy Fund explained in an email to the Free Press that tabulation logs "aren’t the lines of code that run the system. They're logs of activities occurring in the process of tabulation. The lines of code that are reviewed in certification are the actual software codes." She said Ramsland’s report was "confusing many, many things."

PolitiFact Michigan called Allied Security Operations Group and left a voice message requesting to speak with Ramsland. The call was not returned. The White House and Trump campaign did not respond to email inquiries regarding Trump’s tweet. And the EAC also did not respond to requests for additional information regarding its certification process.

State officials say they are not sure what Ramsland is referencing when he reports a 68% error rate.

Guy, the Antrim County clerk, believes that the 68% error rate reported by Ramsland may be related to her original error updating the ballot information. The software generated scores of error reports when the county initially merged election results from various tabulators that did not contain the same ballot information, she said.

"The equipment is great — it’s good equipment," Guy said. "It’s just that we didn’t know what we needed to do (to properly update ballot information). We needed to be trained on the equipment that we have."

Our ruling
Trump claimed that there was a 68% error rate in the tabulation machines used in Michigan, far more than the law allowed. The apparent source for his claim is a report from an investigation of tabulation equipment from one county that purportedly identified a 68.05% error rate.

The author of the report said the error rate applied not to the number of ballots counted, but rather to the lines or events listed in the tabulators’ activity logs.

Trump’s tweet refers to a "law" about benchmark error rates. There is no such law. The report he alluded to refers to FEC guidelines that don’t exist either.

Election officials have explained that the error in unofficial election night reporting in Antrim County was the result of human error, not an error with the software or tabulation machines used in the county.

We rate this claim False.

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...re-defects-mi/

In the meantime, Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia and Arizona have opened new investigations on election fraud.

Georgia for example:


https://api.parler.com/l/EyBEJ

It’s happening in other states too. Antrim County Mi is the only place a judge let a forensic study of Dominion machines. Small county of 14,000 people. 6000 votes were switched from Trump to Biden. The error rate from these machines was 68%. It all true. Just think of the massive fraud in Detroit? Originally Posted by bambino

Didn't find much about your parler story.
The big election fraud story involving an investigation and the seating of a grand jury in Georgia concerns Trump's call to the SOS. The subpoenas will be going out shortly.

So Sad - those unable to deviate from teh 'rectitude' of teh DPST marxist party line.

and teh LSM lying propaganda.

In the meantime, Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia and Arizona have opened new investigations on election fraud.

Georgia for example:


https://api.parler.com/l/EyBEJ

It’s happening in other states too. Antrim County Mi is the only place a judge let a forensic study of Dominion machines. Small county of 14,000 people. 6000 votes were switched from Trump to Biden. The error rate from these machines was 68%. It all true. Just think of the massive fraud in Detroit? Originally Posted by bambino

Are you stuck in a time warp? That bullshit was debunked long ago. Are you Sydney Powell's ugly lying twin brother?

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/12/au...piracy-theory/

A Dec. 17 audit of ballots cast in Antrim County, Michigan, affirmed the outcome of the presidential election there — refuting viral claims that the election software used by the county, and elsewhere, had facilitated massive fraud.

The audit, conducted by state and local officials and representatives of both political parties, involved a hand tally of all the votes cast for president in the county. The findings verified the county’s outcome, in which President Donald Trump beat President-elect Joe Biden by nearly 3,800 votes. (Biden ultimately beat Trump in the state by more than 154,000 votes.)

In a county with more than 15,700 votes cast for president, the audit showed a gain of 11 votes for Trump and a loss of one vote for Biden. Small variances are expected in a machine versus hand count.

The audit came days after the release of a report purporting that Dominion Voting Systems software used in Antrim County was “intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results.”

Though state officials disputed the report as lacking credibility, its claims traveled far on social media.

Didn't find much about your parler story.
The big election fraud story involving an investigation and the seating of a grand jury in Georgia concerns Trump's call to the SOS. The subpoenas will be going out shortly. Originally Posted by VerySkeptical

Evidently bambino in stuck in some sort of Groundhog Day like scenario...every day is November 4th 2020 for these Trump lovers!

He still thinks Trump won the election!

No, not true. And that information was debunked some time ago.
I'm open to new and true information. Please let me know when some results that are proven show up.



Donald Trump stated on December 15, 2020 in a tweet:
“68% error rate in Michigan Voting Machines. Should be, by law, a tiny percentage of one percent.”

December 15, 2020
Trump tweet wrongly suggests there were defects with Michigan voting machines


In a Dec. 15 tweet, Trump claimed there was a "68% error rate in Michigan Voting Machines. Should be, by law, a tiny percentage of one percent."

He suggested Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson would face legal scrutiny for the alleged errors. "Did Michigan Secretary of State break the law? Stay tuned!" Trump wrote.

Trump was reacting to a consultant’s report that a judge made public Monday in connection with an election lawsuit in Antrim County, in northern Michigan, where a misapplied software update initially led to incorrect unofficial results being reported on election night. But Trump’s tweet misinterprets the findings of the report, which itself presents a misleading picture.

Michigan vote tabulators do not read ballots incorrectly 68% of the time. Nor is that statement true if applied only to the Antrim County tabulators in the Nov. 3 election. And the report Trump reacted to, while ambiguous and inaccurate on the subject of errors, does not make that claim.

The report is signed by cybersecurity analyst Russell James Ramsland Jr. of Allied Security Operations Group, a firm whose representatives have provided analyses and affidavits for lawsuits brought by Trump allies, falsely alleging voter fraud and election irregularities.

In one such analysis on voter turnout, Ramsland mistook voting jurisdictions in Minnesota for Michigan towns. In another, filed in support of a federal lawsuit in Michigan, he made inaccurate claims about voter turnout in various municipalities, misstating them as much as tenfold.

The scrutiny of Antrim’s ballots arises from an error in the reporting of unofficial results on election night, which initially showed voters in the heavily GOP county casting more votes for Democrat Joe Biden than for Trump. Trump allies have seized on that error, and other alleged irregularities, in their fruitless quest for evidence of election rigging through equipment made by Dominion Voting Systems.

State and county officials say the reporting error, which was corrected soon after the election, was the result of human error by County Clerk Sheryl Guy, a Republican, before the election.

Guy said that after learning some candidates in local races were omitted from the ballot, she needed to update the ballot information stored on media drives attached to the tabulating machines. But she mistakenly made the changes only in some precincts, instead of all of them, leading to mismatched data when the unofficial countywide tallies were being compiled, and an inaccurate report of the unofficial results, Guy and Benson have said.

The investigation of Antrim’s equipment arose from a different issue in the case. In granting a request for "forensic imaging" of the data and software inside the Dominion tabulators, Judge Kevin Elsenheimer of Michigan’s 13th Circuit Court was responding to concerns about a closely decided proposal to allow a marijuana dispensary in the village of Central Lake. Ramsland’s firm, Allied Security, conducted the investigation.

In his report, Ramsland claimed, "The allowable election error rate established by the Federal Election Commission guidelines is of 1 in 250,000 ballots (.0008%)." On the Antrim machines, he wrote, he "observed an error rate of 68.05%."

The FEC regulates campaign finance, not voting equipment, and has no such guideline. The federal agency that does deal with voting equipment is the Election Assistance Commission. Antrim County’s Dominion tabulators are certified by the EAC. In Michigan, 65 out of the state’s 83 counties use voting systems manufactured by Dominion.
Moreover, the error rate identified by Ramsland is not a measure of ballot counting errors. Ramsland did not have access to the paper ballots as part of his investigation, according to Jake Rollow, a spokesman for the Secretary of State’s office. Ramsland acknowledged that he was not referring to ballot tabulation errors, even though the purported benchmark he compared it to is "1 in 250,000 ballots."

Rather, Ramsland wrote, the error rate applies to the 15,676 "total lines or events" in Antrim’s tabulation logs. "Most of the errors were related to configuration errors that could result in overall tabulation error or adjudication," he wrote, without giving more detail or saying that they did result in such errors.

The EAC certification requirements that Antrim’s Dominion machines had to meet establish certain error thresholds for the computer code that runs the systems, but the tabulation logs track something else.

Tammy Patrick, a senior adviser to the elections program at Democracy Fund explained in an email to the Free Press that tabulation logs "aren’t the lines of code that run the system. They're logs of activities occurring in the process of tabulation. The lines of code that are reviewed in certification are the actual software codes." She said Ramsland’s report was "confusing many, many things."

PolitiFact Michigan called Allied Security Operations Group and left a voice message requesting to speak with Ramsland. The call was not returned. The White House and Trump campaign did not respond to email inquiries regarding Trump’s tweet. And the EAC also did not respond to requests for additional information regarding its certification process.

State officials say they are not sure what Ramsland is referencing when he reports a 68% error rate.

Guy, the Antrim County clerk, believes that the 68% error rate reported by Ramsland may be related to her original error updating the ballot information. The software generated scores of error reports when the county initially merged election results from various tabulators that did not contain the same ballot information, she said.

"The equipment is great — it’s good equipment," Guy said. "It’s just that we didn’t know what we needed to do (to properly update ballot information). We needed to be trained on the equipment that we have."

Our ruling
Trump claimed that there was a 68% error rate in the tabulation machines used in Michigan, far more than the law allowed. The apparent source for his claim is a report from an investigation of tabulation equipment from one county that purportedly identified a 68.05% error rate.

The author of the report said the error rate applied not to the number of ballots counted, but rather to the lines or events listed in the tabulators’ activity logs.

Trump’s tweet refers to a "law" about benchmark error rates. There is no such law. The report he alluded to refers to FEC guidelines that don’t exist either.

Election officials have explained that the error in unofficial election night reporting in Antrim County was the result of human error, not an error with the software or tabulation machines used in the county.

We rate this claim False.

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...re-defects-mi/
Originally Posted by VerySkeptical

Those states are opening new investigations into the actual ballots. It’s the first time it’s been done.

Evidently bambino in stuck in some sort of Groundhog Day like scenario...every day is November 4th 2020 for these Trump lovers!

He still thinks Trump won the election! Originally Posted by WTF

You are. You can deny that these new investigations are happening . But they are happening. Stay warm with Punxsutawney Phil in your groundhog den. Make room for Mr Skeptic!

The following is a condensed version of the relevant facts. The subject has been well covered and the heritage article's many ...mis-statements have been debunked in other threads in this forum.


https://www.factcheck.org/2017/12/mi...ssia-timeline/

Originally Posted by VerySkeptical

Stating the facts of the case was un-necessary when my question was "why lie when you committed no crime"? Seemingly, the only reason one would chose to lie, would be to cover up the fact that one did something illegal. I understand why he was prosecuted, because he lied. The question is why did he lie when he committed no crime with perhaps the exception of the Logan Act which would have obviously failed in a court of law and Sally Yates had to have known that.


So the question to you becomes, was his conversation illegal, not whether he lied about it, he did. Why? If he admitted to what he said, could he, would he have been prosecuted and the obvious answer is no, he wouldn't have been prosecuted. There in lies the conundrum.

No, not true. And that information was debunked some time ago.
I'm open to new and true information. Please let me know when some results that are proven show up.


Originally Posted by VerySkeptical

Again, a whole lot of un-necessary information and your statement of "not true" did not comport with the statement that cases are being reviewed. That is most certainly true. You could save yourself a whole lot of writing by simply addressing what was stated not a litany of what happened.

Again, a whole lot of un-necessary information and your statement of "not true" did not comport with the statement that cases are being reviewed. That is most certainly true. You could save yourself a whole lot of writing by simply addressing what was stated not a litany of what happened. Originally Posted by HedonistForever

Or, how can you debunk an investigation that hasn’t happened or completed yet? I’m skeptical about his credentials as a skeptic.

Those states are opening new investigations into the actual ballots. It’s the first time it’s been done. Originally Posted by bambino

Yea and Trimp will average better than 3.0 GDP