Emails, texts show Pelosi office directly involved in failed Jan. 6 security

The threat to our democracy are those who continue to believe the lies of the MAGA ZONE con man. Smugness? I'm just stating the facts. They stormed the capitol building and tried to interfere with our 250 year old democratic process. If you break into the capitol building and try to interfere with our electoral process, you have to understand that something very bad can happen to you. That's the real definition of Karma. It's not some mythical force. It's when you die as a direct result of your actions. This is not some moron vigilanti kid looking to murder people. This is a Capitol police officer defending the capitol. These people weren't tourists.


The MAGA zone is some weird alternate universe. Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

we are not a democracy, we are a constitutional republic. the word democracy is never mentioned in the constitution that I know of. you can correct me if im wrong

The threat to our democracy are those who continue to believe the lies of the MAGA ZONE con man. Smugness? I'm just stating the facts. They stormed the capitol building and tried to interfere with our 250 year old democratic process. If you break into the capitol building and try to interfere with our electoral process, you have to understand that something very bad can happen to you. That's the real definition of Karma. It's not some mythical force. It's when you die as a direct result of your actions. This is not some moron vigilanti kid looking to murder people. This is a Capitol police officer defending the capitol. These people weren't tourists.


The MAGA zone is some weird alternate universe. Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

if you say so


it was smug of you to start a post about someone who was killed with "LOL". Ashli Babbitt had the right to believe the media and big tech influenced the election in favor of Biden (they did) and you can believe Jan 6th was an "insurrection". just don't be so smug about someone being killed at a protest.

we are not a democracy, we are a constitutional republic. the word democracy is never mentioned in the constitution that I know of. you can correct me if im wrong Originally Posted by chizzy

you are not wrong.

Having tight security protocol is the right thing to do at the Capitol building. Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

Then why did Pelosi and her staff who “coordinated closely” with the Sergeant at Arms Irving on security plans for the Joint Session of Congress on Jan. 6 not implement adequate security protocols?

Why did Pelosi leave the Capitol Police without backup on Jan. 6?

You know, that is the whole subject of the article in the first post of this thread which you admitted in your response you still have not read

The officer did his job. Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

I did not realize murdering an innocent civilian with excessive force who did not provide a direct threat to the officer is "doing his job". Nope, that is murder, plain and simple.

Murder is the illegal killing of a person. That woman was not murdred. Her death is a known possible consequence of breaking into the capitol building. The standards of defense were tightened in response to an attack by radical leftist traitors many years ago. Those standards were then applied during an attack by radical cult 45 traitors.

we are not a democracy, we are a constitutional republic. the word democracy is never mentioned in the constitution that I know of. you can correct me if im wrong Originally Posted by chizzy

While your comment here is pedantic and largely irrelevant to this discussion, it doesn't have to be mentioned in the constitution. The fact is that our government functions as a representative democracy. We use a democratic process to elect the representatives of which our government is comprised.


Let's get back to the topic. A bunch of Cult 45 traitors stormed the capitol.

While your comment here is pedantic and largely irrelevant to this discussion, it doesn't have to be mentioned in the constitution. The fact is that our government functions as a representative democracy. We use a democratic process to elect the representatives of which our government is comprised.


Let's get back to the topic. A bunch of Cult 45 traitors stormed the capitol. Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

It is quite relevant, u incorrectly stated it is a threat to our democracy. That is totally incorrect since we are not a democracy. U were wrong and I corrected your error. Just as you are wrong when you make assumptions based on your own thoughts without proof towards others
But you will continue to do so I assume

Carry on

Murder is the illegal killing of a person. That woman was not murdred. Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

You are wrong. It was murder. Once again, this cop was under no direct threat but still used excessive force against Ashley Babbitt. That is murder.

And again, if this happened in lets say the streets of Minneapolis and the races of the cop and Babbitt were reversed, we would have a national outcry, BLM rioting, looting and burning down buildings, etc. because of Babbitt's murder. But because Babbitt was a white Trump supporter, you celebrate her murder by this cowardly officer who used excessive force that was not justified.

It is quite relevant, u incorrectly stated it is a threat to our democracy. That is totally incorrect since we are not a democracy. U were wrong and I corrected your error. Just as you are wrong when you make assumptions based on your own thoughts without proof towards others
But you will continue to do so I assume

Carry on Originally Posted by chizzy

Once again you're being pedantic. You haven't corrected anything. If you want to be that pedantic, here: It's a threat to our democratic process.


But remember when you said that you don't care about what I type? You sure do respond to a lot of it. LOL

You are wrong. It was murder. Once again, this cop was under no direct threat but still used excessive force against Ashley Babbitt. That is murder.

And again, if this happened in lets say the streets of Minneapolis and the races of the cop and Babbitt were reversed, we would have a national outcry, BLM rioting, looting and burning down buildings, etc. because of Babbitt's murder. But because Babbitt was a white Trump supporter, you celebrate her murder by this cowardly officer who used excessive force that was not justified. Originally Posted by berryberry

It's not up to you to determine if it's Murder or not. The people responsible for that decided that it wasn't.

I haven't celebrated her death. I've just said that it was a known possible outcome of her actions. The rest of your second paragraph is completely irrelevant to the discussion.


It's funny that you claim Nancy told them not to do their job, but then you're apparently critical of them for doing their job. You're the one who seems like you didn't want the Capitol Police to do their job. You wanted them to let the MAGA traitors take over the building and carry out their threats of violence without even putting up a fight.

It's not up to you to determine if it's Murder or not. The people responsible for that decided that it wasn't. Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

No, it is up to a jury to decide that. They never had a chance because of a sham "internal investigation" which let the murdering bastard off the hook. Again if this happened in lets say the streets of Minneapolis and the races of the cop and Babbitt were reversed, we would have a national outcry, BLM rioting, looting and burning down buildings, etc. because of Babbitt's murder. And NO ONE would accept an internal investigation clearing him.

I haven't celebrated her death. I've just said that it was a known possible outcome of her actions. Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

You have. You are smug and gleeful about it - and others here have noticed and commented on it as well

It's funny that you claim Nancy told them not to do their job, but then you're apparently critical of them for doing their job. Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

Not just my claim - actual evidence proves that bitch Pelosi did not adequately staff or secure the Capitol on Jan 6. And murdering someone is NOT doing their job

Once again you're being pedantic. You haven't corrected anything. If you want to be that pedantic, here: It's a threat to our democratic process.


But remember when you said that you don't care about what I type? You sure do respond to a lot of it. LOL Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

I respond when u r wrong which happens more than you are right. You try to assume how people think. You once suggested that I did not make a grammatical error but it was a logical thinking error as if you would have any way of actually knowing. Stick to facts not your assumptions and maybe you will be taken seriously instead of

Someone who throws out assumptions hoping something will stick to the walls

I respond when u r wrong which happens more than you are right. You try to assume how people think. You once suggested that I did not make a grammatical error but it was a logical thinking error as if you would have any way of actually knowing. Stick to facts not your assumptions and maybe you will be taken seriously instead of

Someone who throws out assumptions hoping something will stick to the walls Originally Posted by chizzy

I respond to you based on your words. There's NOTHING GRAMMATICALLY WRONG WITH SAYING "I could care less." It just means that you care, but by the context of everything else you said, it was clear that you meant to say that you didn't care. The exact opposite of what you said. A logical reasoning error. Solid logical reasoning ability would allow you to see that if you "could care less," you care. I don't throw out assumptions. I deal with your words. In the case of your comments about democracy, you were being extremely pedantic, which wasn't the first time.

No, it is up to a jury to decide that. They never had a chance because of a sham "internal investigation" which let the murdering bastard off the hook. Again if this happened in lets say the streets of Minneapolis and the races of the cop and Babbitt were reversed, we would have a national outcry, BLM rioting, looting and burning down buildings, etc. because of Babbitt's murder. And NO ONE would accept an internal investigation clearing him.



You have. You are smug and gleeful about it - and others here have noticed and commented on it as well



Not just my claim - actual evidence proves that bitch Pelosi did not adequately staff or secure the Capitol on Jan 6. And murdering someone is NOT doing their job Originally Posted by berryberry

You continue to talk about an irrelevant subject in your own thread. BLM has nothing to do with it.

The people responsible for deciding if it should go to court decided that it shouldn't. That's their responsibility, not yours. You're slandering a police officer. You don't back the blue?

Specifically what words of mine indicate that I celebrated her killing, as you claim? The opinion of someone who claims to be "in the MAGA zone" is certainly not evidence that I celebrated anything.

You continue to talk about an irrelevant subject in your own thread. BLM has nothing to do with it.

The people responsible for deciding if it should go to court decided that it shouldn't. That's their responsibility, not yours. You're slandering a police officer. You don't back the blue?

Specifically what words of mine indicate that I celebrated her killing, as you claim? The opinion of someone who claims to be "in the MAGA zone" is certainly not evidence that I celebrated anything. Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

It's my thread, and my analogy with the BLM idiots burning, looting, rioting because of what occurred when a police officer arrested a criminal who resisted arrest is perfectly relevant to my thread. The Capitol police officer who murdered Ashley Babbitt was under no direct threat and acted with excessive force. You would be outraged if the races were reversed and some officer under no direct personal threat killed a BLM idiot who was looting and burning down a building

And that includes not accepting the results of any sham "internal investigation" . You know it, I know it, everyone here knows it.

As I mentioned, from your own words, you are smug and gleeful about Babbitt's death. Just read the thread. Others have pointed this out too.

I respond when u r wrong which happens more than you are right. You try to assume how people think. You once suggested that I did not make a grammatical error but it was a logical thinking error as if you would have any way of actually knowing. Stick to facts not your assumptions and maybe you will be taken seriously instead of

Someone who throws out assumptions hoping something will stick to the walls Originally Posted by chizzy

Sounds like maga thinking. Especially about being wrong. tRump was completely responsible for Jan 6th, but maga minds want to try to blame everybody else for him being a treasonist traitor, fake election denying asshole.