I'm sorry, I know I am all over the place, but I am extremely concerned by the rise of Alt Right Christian White Nationalism. I understand that we have a plethora of human rights abuses currently happening, I am not excusing it. I am just really puzzled and concerned by the lack of understanding about the truth of what happened to human beings, because those like my late relative who witnessed some of it, these people and their memories, are now lost to history.
Originally Posted by cinderbella
When I have posted about this in the past online, I was very surprised by responses from people who claimed that the occupiers and gestapo was somehow 'nice' and not mean to the people of Lyon. I am grateful that I have learned historical fact from an account of someone who was actually there and lived it. There was nothing 'nice' about it. No matter who your relative was, or what you may want to think about them if they were there as an occupier or gestapo. Nobody was being nice. Just like the obvious smell of death in a town where a concentration camp was located.
Hitler was not nice. Genocide is not nice.
Originally Posted by cinderbella
I suggest you do what many do here and ignore this whole part of the site. Most women do. In fact, most ignore this whole site. And you have stumbled into the very reason why.
Empathy, compassion, and disagreement with the most frequent posters here is only met with scorn and simplistic insults.
Along with convenient mischaracterization of history and failure to acknowledge the dangers of ignoring it. Doomed to repeat, as they say.
Thanks for sharing a bit of it with us. Elie Wiesel would approve. He worked his entire life to remind people of what happened, warning them that it was continuing. But I suspect most here hate him too.
Originally Posted by Mort Watt
I too would like to thank you Cinderbella for taking the time to write two excellent posts.
I don't recall anyone in this section of the forum ever defending Nazis. Characterizing forum members, or alt right Christian nationalists, or Republicans in general as pro-Nazi isn't true or fair. Many of their fathers, grandfathers and great grandfathers fought in World War II. They risked and some lost their lives fighting Nazis.
Ingrassia said “I do have a Nazi streak in me from time to time, I will admit it.” Who knows what the hell that means. That wasn't the reason certain Republican Senators forced the White House to pull Ingrassia's nomination. It was because he made racist remarks.
That's Blackman's point in the OP, that Ingrassia's a racist and yet he's still the White House's liaison to the DHS.
The party purged Young Republicans who made racist comments. The more conscientious Republican Senators prevented Ingrassia from becoming a Special Counsel. But that's not sufficient. The Republican Party must eliminate racists entirely from its ranks, or all those who support the Republican Party are racists or sympathizers of racists.
However, Blackman probably wouldn't demand the removal of the Democrat Los Angeles City Council members who made racist remarks. And I suspect neither of you would call for the Graham Platner, the leading candidate for the Democratic nomination for Senator in Maine and the person most likely to beat Susan Collins, to withdraw from the race. Platner has a Nazi symbol tattooed across his chest.
Blackman believes I'm a racist sympathizer. My son is a descendant of slaves. Why would I sympathize with racists?
The White House should fire Ingrassia or ask him to resign. Maybe it will. Trump's instinct is to refuse to back down when challenged, but maybe he'll end up doing the right thing.
