Civie Fking

At this point I would have to say that I get off MORE in my sessions then any dating of late.....Why? Cause my sessions are ALL about me giving pleasure and having the control over your cock, this is my JOB and Im going to do it 110%. I know we will both leave with a smile on our faces, NSA, and yes I get a donation as my reward for a well done job.......Control, Cock, Cum.................My 3 Cs.

I like civie sex better. No time lines and it can flow naturally. I also have civie sex more than provider sex. Still like to see one from time to time though

I spent quite a while in a sexless world after my wife died, I then started dating civies. But at my age, what you find is the vast majority of Ladies in the civie world were interested in one thing, becoming the next Mrs Jackie S. That ain't happenning.

So I sort of compromise. I find me a Provider that I really like, (and can tolerate me), and I treat her like a queen. Since she is a pro, I don't have to worry about all of that obligation and committment crap. regardless of how much we see each other, and how much we enjoy it, she is a Provider, I'm a Hobbyist.

These types of arrangements are not for everybody. Many men can not bear the thought of someone they really like seeing other men, especially as a Provider. If you can't get past that, then get you a SB, or a Civie.

Ive had this discussion with a couple of providers and alot will tell you the big difference is what you do before and after the sex..hobbyist dont have the time or enough money to wine and dine every provider they see and when they finish the deed they are off back to the real world...no holding or sleep overs in most cases.
I guess you can say that civie sex has more intimacy and passion than hobby sex...but i try !! lol

I have to agree that when Zarah and I do meet, it's better we do so on civie terms. No envelopes. No time limits. None of that hour, 2 hour crap. Hell, make a day of it. Laughing, fondling, playing, lunch, movies maybe but then good civie fun. Sometimes, we all need that. Originally Posted by mijo(BFE)

That'll be 1600 babe!!

Well I think civie sex will always be better than work sex for the SP because then she is getting her appetite wet versus having the sex because the money says so. I doubt the job messes with their views or outlooks on civie sex. They are human and have desires, wants and cravings and are more likely to serve those appetites through civie sex than work sex, if they get to the point that work sex is damaging their overall view on sex then it's time to get out. Originally Posted by canuckvic

Yes civie sex is better no matter what other ladies say!

I like civie sex better. No time lines and it can flow naturally. Originally Posted by burkalini

Exactly!! Would also like to add it can be spontaneous in various places and last all night!

Meh... My civie partners are more attractive but not always more talented. That's just casual sex, though.
Relationship wise... It's better because of the emotions behind it. Yeah, that's girly - especially for me but it's true.

I try to avoid civies because I don't like lying to people. A couple of times, I fessed up to guys that were interested. Unfortunately, that put me in a position where the guy only wants to talk about sex. In civie life, that is just a turn off. I need a little cerebral stimulation.

In other words, I just avoid it.

I have always wondered ladies, if the hobby takes a toll on your mind on how you view civie guys that you might be interested in? I believe a provider needs someone that they can just let loose with BCD and not think about the pay. There's nothing wrong with a provider getting paid to fk but there has to be a time where you ladies are thinking, "I don't want to be a provider tonight or this weekend and want to be normal about getting fked without pay." So ladies, do you have someone that you normally turn to, to fk you when you just want to be fked without being treated like a provider? Originally Posted by shorty

There has got to be a point where you ladies say its not about the money and I don't want to be treated like a provider on occasions. Originally Posted by shorty

usually there is, Its called a private life.... (keyword private )

I try to avoid civies because I don't like lying to people. A couple of times, I fessed up to guys that were interested. Unfortunately, that put me in a position where the guy only wants to talk about sex. In civie life, that is just a turn off. I need a little cerebral stimulation.

In other words, I just avoid it. Originally Posted by heidilynnla

I can see your point about not wanting to talk about sex or your job, when your in civie life or out with someone. If the guy is stimulated over that then you really didn't need him anyways. The point of civie life is not to think about your problems, job and just have a few hours to let loose.

Meh... My civie partners are more attractive but not always more talented. That's just casual sex, though.
Relationship wise... It's better because of the emotions behind it. Yeah, that's girly - especially for me but it's true. Originally Posted by Shayla

If I may extrapolate, an ATF becoming an SO could lead to total happiness. Hmmm...

Tony, I agree that can be a combination for complete and true happiness, emotionally, sexually, and spiritually.

Today, I prefer provider sex, as most of my Civie sex the ladies just refuse to do what a provider will. Most of my civie ladies will suck a dick at first but two months down the line, she is not into it and get a civie to do CIM at any time has been very difficult for me. When dating the sex is good at first as it seems she is trying to impress me, but soon after she lays on her back and puts little effort into it. Then I start dating other women and she wants to have better sex again? Nope, not for me.

I thoroughly enjoy romancing a woman and seducing her thoroughly, which in my experience takes time. I take a woman out for fine dining, some wine, some soft music, a walk on the river front hand-in-hand, plenty of chivalry, wonderful conversation, flowers, flirting, and soft laughter in the moon light. Then we move to room that has lit candles, soft romantic instrumental music playing, wonderful aroma from incense, wine on the table. I enjoy that and that is typically what I do with a civie lady when first dating. Now when I try to repeat that with the same lady it just does not seem to work as well. An example:

A lady I recently dated I did the above scenario, We had a blast. One month later I asked her on a Friday to pack a bag for the weekend, I had made reservations at a romantic location just outside of town and was trying to be impulsive, spontaneous, romantic and fun. Next came the third degree and interrogation of questions. WE went and had fun, but nothing too romantic, it was more sight seeing and tired sex in the evening. Good civie sex is not consistent like provder sex.

I know I am going to get CIM, or Russian, or whatever I am wanting, no third degree, no interrogation, no hassles with a provider. I like it.

If I may extrapolate, an ATF becoming an SO could lead to total happiness. Hmmm... Originally Posted by tonytiger4u

Or a total disaster.

If I may extrapolate, an ATF becoming an SO could lead to total happiness. Hmmm... Originally Posted by tonytiger4u

Nope. Then you don't have the "no strings" business any longer. Then it will have more strings than you can possibly imagine. And you'll hate them, and eventually hate her. I've never met a woman in civvie life that didn't try and remake me into her image of what she thought I should be. There isn't enough sex in the world or my lifetime to make that OK.

OK, Guys, I am sure most of you know that there is a lot more to civie relationships than just a great sex life. Sooner or later, that ole committment thing will raise it's ugly head, along with all of the strings that are attached to a true relationship.

We all can get get hung up on providers because everything is great for the few hours we see them. Well, she ain't about to come into the bathroom and take a big shit just after you get in the shower. Or nag you. And she probably won't take you for granted, because she knows a happy customer is a good paying customer.

From reading this, I think a lot of you are getting a hard dick confused with being in love. OK, so you really think a permanent relationship with a provider is a good thing. Well, what happens when the single one thing that she is very good at gets old, and you have to put up with her, (and her you), for more than that few hours.

I was married to my wife for almost 30 years before she died. We had a great marriage, she was my soulmate. Sex was just a part of the entire senario, there is a lot more to permanent relationships than just fucking.

The fact that so many marriages, and other relationships, fail is a good indication that quite a few people don't have a clue how it works.

If I may extrapolate, an ATF becoming an SO could lead to total happiness. Hmmm... Originally Posted by tonytiger4u

Or a total disaster. Originally Posted by ZarahAdams

I'm going with the latter on this...