What did I do

And one wonders why so many providers are not more newbie friendly. There is the answer right there. Courtesy goes a long way.

Ala chingada! Those fuckers! Its a part of the biz, a shitty part, but part of the biz. ANd that's true about why there are not many newbie friendly. Im also not going to be newbie friendly anymore. Sorry boys!

That really sucks, and I don't think it's anything against you Liz, so don't take it to heart. It does suck for those newbies, and we were ALL newbies at one point or another, who are responsible and on time.

Like Pepper said, she's switching from newbie-friendly to references only on account of all the bullshit. I don't blame her, or anyone, for not putting up with it; I know I wouldn't! But if she had changed her policy a few years back, I would have lost my first reference which allowed me to get into the door of the hobbying world, so to speak. It's getting harder and harder for newbies to find someone to see on account of more and more of them showing up and causing more cancellations, which ruins it for the honest guys who don't waste time.

Maybe I am missing something, but are you saying all four of the NCNS were Newbies? I didn't see that part posted. If so, that is unfortunate for me as a newbie. However, I think like Marcus is saying, that really makes it hard for guys like me, who have the means to hobby, to get a fair shake with some of the more established women.

I know I know, you probably think I'm whining. However, I just thought I would provide another perspective.

She could always post the handles. Then it would take two bags of popcorn to get through the mess it would create.

.....actually I hope she has shared that information in the ladies area. Then providers like Pepper, summer, nikki, mirandalee, me_jucci and others will know who they are dealing with -- and God help the dude who has done it to more than one lady.....

Saw a lady earlier this week, and we were idscussing this issue. In her case,it wasn't the NCNS,
but the last minute cancelations from establish clients. She is not newbie friendly,so that is not a factor.

Its kind of a catch-22. A lot of providers like at least a days notice for an appointment, and a lot can happen in a day....so more of a possibility that they will get a ncns/cancellation. Me, personally, have time constraints, so if I call (providers I've seen or attempted to see know this first hand) I'm looking for something within the next 30 mins or hour. It doesn't give the provider a lot of time to get ready, and might conflict with other appointments or engagements, but for the most part there won't be a ncns/cancellation.

Not all of them were newbies or at least according to their sign up date only 2 of them were, and no i havent shared handles as of yet due to something could have happend i dont post for first ncns because sometimes it could have been emergency and couldnt call and one of them has contacted me and apologized and his reason was justified in my book, it just seemed weird that 4 in one day but from the feedback it looks like im not the only one this happens to so sorry if i caused any issues, was just curious if i had said something in my comments, thank you for all your feed back, maybe this thread will remind everyone, especially newbies, why a quick text or call to cancel is always appreciated and deserved from both sides!