Independent Ladies Only!!

I also need a checklist of signs to tell if she has a pimp...for example. Dirty feet,rap music ringtones, ect. Originally Posted by ambersilk

1 Kmsl! The black feet always got me....feet dirty? Hmmm wonder what else ain't clean and goes unwashed?

2 Pimp C ringback tone on your business line? Hmm?

3 2 -6 women in the same motel/hotel (sometimes same room) working? Hmmm?

4 Doubles partners with the same tats?? Crew/stable branding maybe? Hmmm?

5 Let me get the money before we start and take it to my "sister" or "cousin" or "driver"? Hmmm?

6 Getting to the appointment 10 minutes early to see traffic in or out of the room or waiting & watching the room in a car? Hmmm?

7 Paraphernalia laying around and/or funny cigarette smell everywhere?

8 Guys in mirror pics?!! C'mon man really?

9 The inability to speak or write english in person as well as in ads? Using pimp speak and heavy slang so much that you need to check the urban dictionary to understand what the bum beotch is saying?

10 1000 chicks using the same phone number? Seriously? A throwaway can be bought under $20.

11 Texting and answering calls all through your appointment? Really? Pimps DO NOT and WILL NOT turn down any money. I don't care how small.
Miss some money calling if you want to. 24hrs a day/7 days a week go and get it.


And I'm sure the list goes on Ms Amber......

It would be good to put it out here so that those who are unaware & actually care can avoid donating their hard earned to a pimp and his lifestyle.

Support your independent ladies & stop funding the crews so they can go back to the streets & strip clubs to hustle.

Sorry to change the subject,but i HAD to let everyone know Mssppislm DOES shuck,jive,and sing negro spirituals at home!

Sorry to change the subject,but i HAD to let everyone know Mssppislm DOES shuck,jive,and sing negro spirituals at home! Originally Posted by bluesman69

Awww Bluesman you will have any girl singing negro spirituals after a round with you!

Now tell me how many of these 40 60 100 ads you see?

For now-
Pimp & crew 1
Independent /renegade 0
Originally Posted by Mssppislm

These ads are a dime a dozen but at least this pimp can spell.
Now you can't tell me these are independents.

http://jackson.backpage.com/FemaleEs...ous-22/3900273

I officially died @ Up to 4 people trains(gangbang) for only $100

From reports of the last six months, gun-point robberies and cash-and-dash scenarios have been rampant in Memphis which has resulted in some stings, but those are usually blanket actions that often miss the dangerous situations and end up snaggin the indy who's reliable and would never put her client at risk. In some cases, threats of physical violence have actually resulted in physical injuries.

Guys, while most of these are only on BP, some have also posted ads on ECCIE. Be diligent. If she is not verified with reviews by well-known handles, be cautious. No need to put your life at risk just for a little "strange".

Thanks well put My friend!!

From reports of the last six months, gun-point robberies and cash-and-dash scenarios have been rampant in Memphis which has resulted in some stings, but those are usually blanket actions that often miss the dangerous situations and end up snaggin the indy who's reliable and would never put her client at risk. In some cases, threats of physical violence have actually resulted in physical injuries.

Guys, while most of these are only on BP, some have also posted ads on ECCIE. Be diligent. If she is not verified with reviews by well-known handles, be cautious. No need to put your life at risk just for a little "strange". Originally Posted by ufriend2912

What you are saying is 100% true. In fact there is one "crew", I call them the Kimora crew that is run by a couple of pimps that their MO is to get you there, once in the ladies will collect the money, they will get YOU to undress, and withing 5 mins. either a knock on the door or some type of commotion and then enters the pimp. Of course the lady will tell you that it's her boyfriend or her sisters boyfriend, and he and a friend will enter making a lot of noise and screaming at the top of their lungs wondering what's going on in their home. Usually they will have a pitbull with them, and by that time, you get the picture. There have been reports of guys being thrown out either nude or in their undies. Since LE also reads the boards, I know that they are aware of these tactics, but sadly, it's going to take something drastic to happen before they will make a move. But I believe that because you are having more gang members also doubling as pimps, this problem is going to get worse. This is not just a local problem, stupidity and greed is everywhere.

Probably this is the reason some of the same "pimp" discussions have been going on in the Arkansas forums too. Similar problems and risks there. Gangs, drug lords, pimps... be careful guys. When procuring a little extra-curricular companionship, stick with the well-reviewed, reputable ladies. Safety should be number one... ijs.

Sorry to change the subject,but i HAD to let everyone know Mssppislm DOES shuck,jive,and sing negro spirituals at home! Originally Posted by bluesman69

I know when I've seen Mssppislm, she has me speaking in tongues. ~~

So she is the one who turned you into a cunning linguist, eh?

Im new here but whats the diff tween a pimp and a lazy ass BF/SO who lives off the proceeds I pay to a provider? correct me if I am wrong but at least a pimp is out there selling instead of doing nothing to help but reaping the rewards no? I am in no way pro-pimp btw, just curious and will those girls also be on the list?

Alot of guys don't understand the word provider. I have seen a ton of reviews on other sites of girls and they don't even have a web page.To me a provider has P411 or Datecheck, they know what GFE is, and I do not have to worry about the drama. I would rather pay the extra , feeling safe and with some class, than a cash and dash.

Love you Ms Amber and agreed 1000% percent with your post. You as well as Ms Babee where very helpful to me back when I was touring Memphis! But let me say this, having always been an independent provider myself, this hobby is far different than it was even 5 years ago.

The breed of "hobbiest" and "provider" that partake now have created this environment.
I read my fill of all or most escort websites with discussion boards and have come to a conclusion (which is my of my own opinion of course) this market is a result of the buyer requesting such.

Never before have I read where so many complain about 200-300/hr rates from well established independents. Which if she provides incall deduct 70-100 + from that rate. Do not assume that she has multiple appts that day. Almost impossible for one independent to cover expenses and make a decent profit in the south this way now. The price of gas,food,hotel/motel etc has increased.

Enter the pimp and his/her crew of girls. Even if he/she only has two or three girls in one motel/hotel room at 40-100 rates they will undoubtedly make a hell of a lot of more money. Plus figure in the guy not being hassled for screening or references. Win -win only if they decide not to rob or rip off the guy.

Note: I do not count the utr/private stock or part time providers who are sometimes priced similarly.



A pimp has done the math. 2-5 girls @ 100 or less per appt equals money. The girls don't care about any of it. The illusion of being "care for" is enough. Say a pimp is scheduling all of her appts being her muscle for unruly clients buying her food & "candy"along with motivating her to get ANY and ALL money coming their way, that's plenty reason for most of these types to pay him/her.

A lot of guys will spend 50/100 and not think twice about getting ripped for it.
Now tell me how many of these 40 60 100 ads you see?
Most could not care less about these girls having pimps as long as they never see them. Super low negotiable rates + no hassle about screening & references usually equals a pimp and his/her crew.

For now-
Pimp & crew 1
Independent /renegade 0


I don't personally know of any "sober straight independents" who could work at these rates and this volume. This is one reason Imho why pimps still exist.



When the buyer stops driving this market ,as with anything else, it will fall.

I used to see escorts dress to impress,hair & makeup 10,hygiene 10, nails and feet done & taking pride in providing a mind blowing experience .
Now "escorts"show up no makeup ,hair undone, nails chewed up, legs underarms hairy, smelling like hot tuna below upsell & rush clients out of the door unsatisfied and still get paid so go figure.



I repeat:
When the buyer stops driving this market ,as with anything else, it will fall.


Originally Posted by Mssppislm

You are right on target!
So many girls are driving the prices down and it makes it almost impossible for a real provider to make any real money

I also need a checklist of signs to tell if she has a pimp...for example. Dirty feet,rap music ringtones, ect. Originally Posted by ambersilk

That's hilarious and so true.... Damn, I need to check the board more often. Thus is great!

man fuck all them pimps there cheaten there hookers outta money!

Holding the Hobbyist accountable for his actions, lack thereof and/or lack of concern either way.

Date Reviewed: 7/21/2012
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=503351

Phone number listed to different providers PRIOR to Hobbyist visiting provider. *

Misty listed on Backpage 2/26/2012:
http://austin.backpage.com/FemaleEsc...own-20/6164281

Lily listed *3/19/2012:
http://www.myproviderguide.com/escor...us-blonde.html

Sasha Listed 3/24/2012:
http://eroticmugshots.com/southbend-...1/?pid=5816760