Putting Rumors To Rest

I hope we ladies can all just stick together and stay safe!!!

{shit happens and life goes on}

MsElena i appreciate you posting this! Best to sabra too!

The problem I see is that people like to jump to conclusions, usually bad ones, and usually wrong. This board, as I understand it, is supposed to be for trading information, not unsubstantiated rumors (THAT was hard to spell, thank you spellchecker!) There was a time I was a member of a board on Yahoo, and with one posting, the board owner gave everyone 12 hours to find another board, because he was going to disband it. This is the best place to trade info, QUALITY info, and it should be used as such. I watched this situation from a distance while I watched people nitpick and gossip like the local old ladies in the knitting center.


Now I am off my soap box. Can we go back to talking about a great set of knockers?

Being from KC, I am certainly not aware of most of the Nebraska ongoings...I just occassionally visit Omaha, and thus just occassionally visit this forum. So I can't add any real substance to this issue.

I will say this, as Ms E does post frequently on the KC board.

She and I have had our disagreements...and will probably continue to do so, lol.
So definitely I am no WK of her.

There are some things she post that I disagree with...there are some things she post that are spot on.

But based upon what I have seen of her postings, and the occassional backchannel conversations (which is very active beyond Eccie) that I have heard about her, ..she is one of the providers who I simply do not believe would ever consider doing the things that she has been accused of, relating to this thread...no way!!

I'm not saying she is perfect. I'm not saying I'm dying to see her.

But I am saying in this area, I would have complete trust in her.

Until we disagree, again, Ms E...I sincerely hope this issue quickly becomes a forgotten part of your past

Evidently there was a section of Sabra's explanation I edited out by mistake when I pulled out the contents of the email.

I've put it back in. To make it easy to find, I changed the font color for ya.

Here you go: Sabra's explanation post (added paragraph in teal colored font)

This is such a senseless and tasteless post on the entire thing. This whole talk of being discreet is absurd especially when we are talking on a public forum. All these topics and things should have stayed between the providers and gents on the back channel.

Ms. E should have been the better woman she claims to be and explore more options of clearing her name like asking the other providers for the list of gentlemen to PM instead of putting this out here for us all to view and comment on like its breaking news. I have been a hobbyist for the past year now and try never to get on this board for the entire world to view at any point and time but with all this crap kicked to the front page I just couldn't sit back so I decided to zipp up the pants and type a few things.

The various girls that I have seen ( not being any involved in this matter THANK GOD ) have made the hobby fantastic and my FAV is still around by very low key which I love right now. From their own mouths they have had nothing nice to say about Ms. E and her rants and raves on this board along with being such a hypocrite. Ms. E you may be a good provider but your intent is sometime seen by the trained eye in your marketing tactics to belittle other local girls. Ms. E got after Madi for posting that she was looking for an apartment at one time and was looking for good locations and did the same with Sabra but it is ok for her to ask for mechanics or how to hookup a Wii.

She is warning many girls about stings and then when another local girl puts something up she condemns them and tells them that the Big Bear is watching the board so watch what you post. If the Big Bear was watching the board as she says, hell would they have the biggest vendetta towards her for spoiling the art of suprise and throwing a wrench in there OPs.

Ms. E I think your rep will be just fine and would have been better if this post was never even made and the community would have moved on to the Breaking Story Of Hookers & Johns.
If you would play nice with other ladies except your select 2 or 3 on the board ( Kendra, Jackie) your reputation would be a hell of alot better and the ladies wouldn't try to steer me away from you. I have never seen for the reasons of you constantly on here commenting and have taken the role as a Principal of the Nebraska board and feel it is your duty and duty alone to correct anyone here.

There is NOTHING enticing about a female who seems to thinks she knows all and can do no wrong. It seems you may be too full of yourself a bit and feel its your place to be the judge and jury on this board.

I am a military man and I hope this all blows over and this post is closed ASAP so we can all get back to enjoying life and sex. It's enough fighting and jaw jabber going on everywhere else especially Capitol Hill. I come here to get away from stress, or look for a stress reliever. I love an actual catfight for the visual of clothes ripping with a chance of a tit popping out, but not a cyber catfight.


I hope this Young & The Restless episodes ends soons and this post is eradicated.

THIS IS THE REASON I LOVE P411, no chickens clucking and chitter chatter. This post is bad for the hobby because now I think some will be reserved in seeing any females who are not even involved in this post knowing that behind the scenes you girls can't get along in one of the easiest profession there is. If you really want to fight that bad then deploy with me and meet me on the frontline ladies. Hopefully you get a special suited outfit that comes with heels.

P.S. Ms. E Pleeeeeaaasseeeee don't give up on the M&G. I was looking forward to that in the future and it could be good to get all the parties involved along with others to clear all the bad air and feelings towards each other. Just think of what a great community this could be if all the girls got along and work together instead of against each other.

Hell Ms. E your rep is totally fine, after typing all this I would pertaining the issue I would love to see you. Crack that whip
across my back side and call me " your lil soidler boy ".

I just hope I'm around to see the girls kiss and make up.

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Hell Ms. E your rep is totally fine, after typing all this I would pertaining the issue I would love to see you. Crack that whip
across my back side and call me " your lil soidler boy "


wooohoooo I wanna watch!

Talk about sending mix messages....hobbyliving31. The first 2/3's of your message is basically trashing E's style and presence on this board. But then you finish by asking (or better put pleading) to see her.

First off, there are a couple of points that I do agree with you in terms of E's posting styles...that's why we have had our disagreements...so I'm not discounting everything you said.

But then to finish by pleading to see her, in the exact same post. No wonder some of the ladies view us as pussies. Big talk...followed up by little head's beseeching...IMO, does not sound like a military man's way of handling things..and I'm not disrecpecting you, personally, but come on.

Ms E is no angel...and her & my history will demostrate that I'm no WK of hers.

But right is right and wrong is wrong. No way would I buy into the fact that she would knowingly expose someone to LE. First off, despite our disagreements...I simply don't believe she is that type. There are several things I would question about her...but her integrity in this area, I would not, even for a second question.

Also let's be practical...even if she were to be that type, this is a small community. It would not be long for word to get out. I'll admit, there are several adjectives that I can think of, regarding Ms E. but dumb and poor business manging is not among them.

These type of rumors can end a lady's ability to function in the hobby. And based on St Chris post...it definitely appears that E is not the villan that some were spreading rumors about. So HELL YES, I don't blame her for starting this thread...so she could speak her peace.

The really rotten thing is....she needed to do it in the first place, because of unfounded rumors.

But hobbyliving...pick a position (whatever it is) and stay with it. Don't say one thing with your big head, and then let your little head totally be a trump card.

At times like this, I can totally understand some of the ladies total lack of respect towards us hobbiest.

Remember...we are looking for pussy, not acting like pussies!!!

Not that I wish to involve myself in this shit storm but I can tell you MsE has personally helped me on more then one occasion from making a terrible mistake. We too have had our differences but she has always made it up to me by that thing she does with her tongue. Seriously, no way MsE would knowingly OK someone she knew was bad news. It just wouldn't happen, and I say this knowing that her left breast still owes me 2 bright and shiny quarters.

Regardless of how you may feel about her personally, if we can't trust one another on this board to watch one anothers back then they might as well just shut the whole damn thing down. But also keep something in mind. If I decide to see someone based upon reviews I have read, or even recommendations from other providers I have seen, that choice is still mine and I will ultimately pay the price for that interaction in some form or another.

Unfortunately the hobby we participate in is still illegal in some cases and each and everyone of us knowingly accepts that risk when we decide to depart from following the law of the land.

Keep your head up MsE. We love ya.

Shit always rolls downhill I find it funny that elena has been involved in more fights and shit starting on this site than anyone else and some of you will still stick up for her. Its a fact elena you are not well liked on here but only by a select few hell look at the boards on here from the midwest and you can see it first hand. Seems to me you dont get any business at all as much as you are on here posting. Its clear that any girl that is a threat to you you go out of your way to bash or try to ruin that girl till they leave, then you use other girls to get what you want hell you have kendra so far up your pussy it isnt funny I guess she just hasnt caught on to you yet but give it enough time and she will smarten up. As for jane you started a bunch of shit and then said you dont want your name in well guess what it doesnt work that way your in it all the way you dont get the choice to run away from it to save your rep. Jackie you state you dont want your good name in this matter I ask you what good name? You are so full of shit it isnt funny your on the boards just as much as elena so we all know your not getting any customers, in your ads you run oh Ive been featured on hbo and Ive done this and that um how many years ago was that ya thats what I thought your old and washed up and then get you and elena together and watch out its like to blue hairs thinking they are the queen hens dumping on all the other girls. And then when you write a post look out its a entire book of oh I am so much better than you your snippy and just a complete bitch and frankly makes people not like you. Why dont all of you so called ladies grow up and just shut up if you cant get along then dont talk to each other its just that simple. Now can we all move on and get back to the pussy! I am glad I dont get on here very often.

Ladies and gentlemen may I remind you,
ECCIE Forum Guidelines

#1 - Avoid cases of unprovoked rudeness to others. No place for it here. Yes, with the dynamic nature of the threads and topics, tempers will flare and things will become heated from time to time. You may often encounter individuals who become passionate or emotional when expressing one's opinion or point of view. That's all understood and perfectly acceptable within reason…….but, start slamming or bashing another member and be met with consequences.

Marcus - can't you just close this thread? All of the principals who were directly involved in this whole unfortunate situation have a chance to clear the air. Why keep it open and provide a forum for those who were not involved to launch personal attacks?

Closing this thread means "we are not going to let you discuss this anymore"

We don't do that. Folks were affected by this whole ordeal, and not just the principals. This is a discussion board, so you may discuss it.

That said, share your opinion or thoughts on the matter without the insults. We will deal with those, as Marcus has already done

St. C

I too have no dog in this fight at all... and I am far from being a MsElena fan and even farther from being her WK then VK.
That being said, I 100% agree with what VK said and could not say it any better.

..she is one of the providers who I simply do not believe would ever consider doing the things that she has been accused of, relating to this thread...no way!!

I'm not saying she is perfect. I'm not saying I'm dying to see her.

But I am saying in this area, I would have complete trust in her.

Until we disagree, again, Ms E...I sincerely hope this issue quickly becomes a forgotten part of your past Originally Posted by vkmaster

I've no dog in this fight either, other than knowing all the ladies involved.

On Ms. Elena: I sometimes agree with her and sometimes don't. And I agree she has a somewhat abrasive writing style. But she'll give it to you straight....even if you don't want to hear it. In my book, that is an admirable quality. I've had an accidental opportunity to test Ms. E's honesty. She says she did not knowingly set up Sabra....that's good enough for me.

On Sabra: While Ms E. has unfairly had her name dragged through the mud, let's not forget that a lady we all know is now suffering problems that make trash talking and name calling pale to insignificance. And the powers that be are watching this and laughing their asses off.

I agree with others that this thread should be put to bed.