it's official...

Have you tried Sins of the Flesh? She advertises as "newbie-friendly" and she certainly knows her business. Of course, there's the FBSM ladies who usually have less stringent requirements or many times, none at all. One of my favorites is Leanna who has a showcase on here.

The first time that I did FS, I saw a Houston traveling provider who called my workplace and asked for me. They acknowledged that I worked there and that was all she needed.

Good luck to you. I know it's frustrating.

wow, you're just a dick. Originally Posted by notswilson

Nope he is not a dick - he is just a realist!

Of course, there's the FBSM ladies who usually have less stringent requirements or many times, none at all. One of my favorites is Leanna who has a showcase on here. Originally Posted by Smoking Monkey

I have met Leanna and implicating that she has less stringent screening or none at all is not very accurate.

Just get P411.

Nope he is not a dick - he is just a realist!

I have met Leanna and implicating that she has less stringent screening or none at all is not very accurate.

Just get P411. Originally Posted by SKCGUY65

I'm not saying Leanna isn't careful or that she doesn't have a screening process, but on her website in the FAQ section, a question is asked, "Do I need a referal from another provider to make an appointment with you?"

She answers, "No, you do not need a referal from another provider to make an appointment with me. I have no intentions of soliciting you for illegal activities when we meet. Plus I am very discreet and prefer not to know your business."

That said, I would still recommend Leanna for a nice FBSM.

Doesn't P411 have a 6 month trial free of charge or did that go away? I've heard also that even if you have P411 some girls still want references so it isn't a sure thing.

I'm not saying Leanna isn't careful or that she doesn't have a screening process, but on her website in the FAQ section, a question is asked, "Do I need a referal from another provider to make an appointment with you?"

She answers, "No, you do not need a referal from another provider to make an appointment with me. I have no intentions of soliciting you for illegal activities when we meet. Plus I am very discreet and prefer not to know your business."

That said, I would still recommend Leanna for a nice FBSM. Originally Posted by Smoking Monkey

It was just the way you wrote the reply and the way I read it. I concur with you on the recommendation of Leanna. and when calling her if you do say something out of place - she will be more then happy to let you know.

I've heard also that even if you have P411 some girls still want references so it isn't a sure thing. Originally Posted by royamcr

Yes that happens quite a bit to me here it seems - especially since I do not link my P411 account to any of the boards - If my P411 okays are not good enough then neither is my money.

Sorry bro butyour just wanting to whine. You have been given several options, you have been given the names of a couple of ladies that are newbie friendly. I am sorry but I have to agree with Buzzwords comments. Its really not as hard as your making it. As a newbie here are a couple of things to consider that also might help.

1. Dont ask for outcall
2. Dont ask for short notice
3. Dont ask for specific services
4. Ask the lady what process does she want you to take to facilitate a meeting
5. Dont complain to the lady about how hard it has been to find a meeting, this will just make her wonder why all the other ladies turned you down.
6. Let the provider lead you through the process
7. Do let the lady know that you are new to the hobby, a member of ECCIE. This will not necessarily guarantee anything but might put a little grease on the skids.

If this does not help you I am sorry, but we do carry pocket pussys and lube.

I've heard also that even if you have P411 some girls still want references so it isn't a sure thing. Originally Posted by royamcr

This is very true. I have some guys get mad but knowing some of the things I know, I do require references too, and only from a select few ladies. Nothing is 100% safe these days. And well, not everyone tells the truth. So I need 110% assurance that I'm safe. I am a lot more fun when I'm not worrying, trust me. I'm glad I am wiser with my age, as I didn't ever used to verify shit when I first ventured into this glamorous hobby, and it was so fun to be so carefree! Now its just scary to walk into the unknown. So most ladies will require additional references.

nots after reading all you whining i can only guess how you would be on a phone or email conversation...... i think we understand now why you cant get a date with a hooker.... look in the mirror and see the problem...


ok flame me

that did sound whiney, didn't it?

for the record, i get it. i don't want to see anyone who has a lenient verification policy. i'm not faulting the girls for having rigid policies. it's just that, save for referrals, i don't know what the damn policies are.

so p411 sounds like a great place to try. thanks for the notes, i see a lot of newbies asking and i'm surprised to have gotten so much great advice. except for that one guy, the wine has worn off and i still think he was a dick.

@notswilson, P411 is a great place to start. And while most ladies will require additional references, there are some that don't. Plus, a lot of providers on P411 advertise their specials on the ad boards which you will also have access to. Good luck hun.

finding a girl to spend time with here is actually harder than meeting a random person in public or being that guy everyone has slept with at work.

this is the voice of frustration and i'm sure there's some way into this vault but after a couple months of texts, emails, and pms, i haven't found it.

so maybe i've said a secret code word associated with someone to stay away from - i can't imagine what that would be unless words like "i'm just a normal guy", "i'm not in le", or "i'm in advertising" is frowned upon here.

i'm not looking for answers, one thing i have learned is that this group looks like a lot of fun - from way outside. it actually reminds me of being picked last for kickball in grade school and let me tell you, i don't wish to relive that.

so i'll lurk. i'll keep trying to be witty, maybe even charming in the boards. i'll send an occasional pm and anxiously check to see if i've gotten a response. if anyone has any tips, i'm happy to hear them, however you feel
comfortable giving them. smoke signals, incognito envelope dropped at a pre-determined location, whatever; i'm game - for a while longer. Originally Posted by notswilson

I kinda disagree.I am new.I have been here for less than 2 weeks and I almost made it (she is a top provider) but had to cancel as I couldn't meet her timelines.
Put it this way, if you were a provider, what would you want to hear to be sure that a newbie is legit ?
You would like to know what he does , where he works and if he could so some sort of identification.simple!
If you are ok to tell them this , you can easily get appointments.
That's how I got mine.
You are your own worst enemy mate .. your imagination is causing unnecessary confusion.
Hope I have helped.
oh n btw this is my first post on EECIE !

Post a thread in ISO titled "Looking For Newbie Friendly Provider".
Also as everyone else has already advised, join P411.

Great first post Peaceful.

Welcome aboard.

So... hopefully this thread isn't dead yet, but... what I'm getting is that it's a better buy to get the membership at P411 than it is to pay ECCIE for a full membership. Is that correct? What is the reasoning behind that?

FYI - my first post here as well...

Eccie is not a screening site whereas P411 is.
Awesome first post! Congrats