Obamacare freebie- birth control?

I believe free contraception has been available at planned parenthood for years if you claim indigence. They roll it into the cost of other services and have already been receiving subsidies for pregnancy prevention for years as well. The government has been willing to cover the cost of contraception and std awareness for decades.

What I find most disturbing is when I heard the new program will also pay for abortions!

Regardless of your position on abortions, its really upsetting that tax payers are responsible for two people's momentary fcuk up in the heat of passion. I'm aware that not all pregnancies happen with the woman's consent but that is a VERY small fraction of pregnancy overall. I do not wanna pay every time Susie super slut flings her legs open for the boys on the block.

I'll get on board to pay for birth control all day long since we have all already been doing it as it is, but paying for a fcuk up after the fact when it could (in most instances) be prevented it is just infuriating. That should be a private party expense. Period! Originally Posted by thathottnurse

I'm so late to this party but...

The enlarged line above is not an accurate statement... It is illegal to use federal funds to pay for abortions AND the Republican party would not let that slip by without shining a hypocritical light on it.

Personally I'm not nor will I ever be in favor of abortions but my feeling are trumped by one's RIGHT to decide what's appropriate for their lives.

Sorry, just the ramblings of a brainless Democrat I guess.

nothing is 'free' hd...its coming from your taxes Originally Posted by fletch

What's free with me being forced into paying $380/mo to get about $50 worth of birth control?

I'm going to read every page of my plan benefits and get every single type of healthcare I can get...it's the only way I won't be bitter that I'm paying $300 more per month.

tsaints01 nailed it on our voting habits, vote against the candidate you don't want. The times they are a changing!

Seems like all the replies show signs of intelligence, I hope everyone is registered to vote, if not, you've wasted your time reading this thread!

Carry on

Typical Democrat. Commits the act himself then preemptively accuses his opponent before they have even had a chance to respond. Classic.


edit: I should have said "liberal on the loose" (LOTL) rather than Democrat. I have some dear friends that are Democrats and, however musguided, they do have their hearts in the right place - unlike this hostile poster.

What's that old saying? If you are under 30 and Republican then you have no heart. If you are over 30 and a Democrat then you have no brain. Lol!



And cyclone1996, what makes you think most providers are not on bc? That is a very strong assumption. Have you done a study or researched this at all??? Or did you base ur comment off of the same reasoning that caused you to vote for Obama??? Originally Posted by thathottnurse

Hot Nurse,
Never have seen you but finding out you're not Democrat or Liberal makes me want to see you more. I'm betting most providers support the UnACA & this Admin. I never talk politics in a session but this Admin is doing so much damage that goes WAY beyond politics. Glad to see a provider with brains and common sense. I wish more brave ladies would come forward.

tsaints01 nailed it on our voting habits, vote against the candidate you don't want. The times they are a changing!

Seems like all the replies show signs of intelligence, I hope everyone is registered to vote, if not, you've wasted your time reading this thread!

Carry on Originally Posted by hd

I'm voting for whichever candidate is fresh (newcomer) regardless of political party. Senate incumbents who have served two 6 year terms will not get a vote from me. Congressional Representatives (same thing @ 2 years a term) who have served four terms will not get a vote from me for a fifth term.

The only caveat I have is if the newer candidate is wacky I will opt for someone else or stick with the incumbent (either side/party).

Personally, I would prefer to see formal term limit rules enacted and enforced as a rule to clear out the corruption, stagnation and unwarranted elitism of both parties that way we get a new crop of candidates, ideas and connection to reality (from both parties) every few election cycles.

If you notice, the one issue that both political parties seem to completely 110% agree on is not enacted term limit rules. That says a lot about how bad it really is in DC with our governance.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1397564

Just something for the the fine democrat above to read.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1397564

Just something for the the fine democrat above to read. Originally Posted by thathottnurse

Lordy, THN I hadn't even noticed it (the excerpt from your link below is very telling). I'm pro-choice, but not pro-deception.

"For people who opt into a health plan that covers abortion, the Affordable Care Act requires that health plans "provide a notice to enrollees" at the time of enrollment that their plan includes the surcharge, but those plans are not allowed to advertise the specific surcharge. This is the aspect of the policy that Smith calls a "secrecy clause."

"This secrecy clause requires insurance companies to bury the abortion surcharge in the summary of benefits so Americans shopping for an insurance plan on the exchange won't know about the abortion surcharge until they sign up for coverage -- and even then they could easily miss the fine print," the congressman said in a statement. "Undoubtedly many enrollees will be shocked when they get a bill for the Obama abortion surcharge. Once enrolled, even pro-life Americans will be forced to pay for other people's abortions."

It's wrong to trick people into paying/subsidizing something they don't believe in as a matter of principle. Our government is screwed up (all of it).

Bingo...............though I've usually voted Rep. I would go Dem. if I hear what they have to say is sensible. I haven't heard anything sensible for a long time from democrats. Though the representative from Ft Worth may get my vote if she decides to run for Gov. b/c of Perry's stupid law I mentioned in my opening post.

I'm guessing the U.S. would be in better shape if H. Ross had gotten in, run it like a business is the way to do it. But in business, you could be fired for doing something stupid, so the senate and house would be running scared.

Bingo...............though I've usually voted Rep. I would go Dem. if I hear what they have to say is sensible. I haven't heard anything sensible for a long time from democrats. Though the representative from Ft Worth may get my vote if she decides to run for Gov. b/c of Perry's stupid law I mentioned in my opening post.

I'm guessing the U.S. would be in better shape if H. Ross had gotten in, run it like a business is the way to do it. But in business, you could be fired for doing something stupid, so the senate and house would be running scared. Originally Posted by hd

What's funny is people (even me) thought HRP was wacky with his basic economic charts and his open disdain of NAFTA ("that sucking sound of jobs leaving USA"). In hindsight, he was 100% right and it was worse than probably even he expected.

Eventually as time went on, we have (politically) sat back and enabled the shortcut beyond NAFTA (people) well inside our borders illegally and we are paying a hefty price for that. Making it worse is over the last couple of decades the focus and exodus of core US industry/mfg has shifted over to Asia who nearly own us (financially). Overall, it's not a good long term business plan for a nation.

Short term political wins (from either party) and their abject cronyism and corruption to do deals that are not in the best interests of our country have been a disaster for us collectively as a nation. Add to that, focus on dividing us further using special social groups, inane causes that are not really a national priority, etc., and we have become very distracted, fractured and vulnerable to stealthy influences from many who wish to see us fail.

In a nutshell, we're bleeding ourselves out economically/politically for what long term purpose?.....So much for United.

And cyclone1996, what makes you think most providers are not on bc? That is a very strong assumption. Have you done a study or researched this at all??? Or did you base ur comment off of the same reasoning that caused you to vote for Obama??? Originally Posted by thathottnurse

I didn't say "most" providers don't use BC. I'm surprised that 100% aren't using BC. But I've come across a handful that don't. But I know BC is a very personal issue and isn't compatible with all women. I wasn't making any judgments at all. Calm down hot nurse, don't over-heat on me.

Only if you let me

Wrong....get your facts right...........

Multiple individual plans available on the D.C. health-insurance exchange specifically cover elective abortion but not hearing aids, routine foot-care, and routine eye-care.

I'm so late to this party but...

The enlarged line above is not an accurate statement... It is illegal to use federal funds to pay for abortions AND the Republican party would not let that slip by without shining a hypocritical light on it.
Originally Posted by GentleGiant2467

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...betsy-woodruff

Yo Riday,Thanks for asking. Granny has a really good set of upper and lower dentures. She has big tits. They droop to her belly button. She is now able to get birth control pills

Hot Nurse,
Never have seen you but finding out you're not Democrat or Liberal makes me want to see you more. I'm betting most providers support the UnACA & this Admin. I never talk politics in a session but this Admin is doing so much damage that goes WAY beyond politics. Glad to see a provider with brains and common sense. I wish more brave ladies would come forward. Originally Posted by TrailBlazer

I'd be happy to cum forward for u TB and backwards and sideways, upside down and inside out.

Holy shit! Last time I looked this was still a Democracy, not a Theocracy. It's about time the good old US of A got on the 21st century wagon here. Choice is the key ingredient in this discussion. We should stop trying legislate morality which gives too much voice to either extreme and get on with the BUSINESS of government and the welfare of the people. All the time spent by gas bag anarchists "holding the line" on either side of the aisle would be better served FIXING shit. Term limits should be the law of the land, motherfuckers need to figure out like the rest of us how to live on something besides Other People's Money. If the gummint got paid for productivity instead of posturing, maybe we'd get out of the dark ages on abortion and medical research and let the people CHOOSE what their belief system says is right and get some shit done for a change. Fucking posers. Lifetime OPM vampires. Vote 'em ALL out.

If you don't want an abortion, don't get one. Have another PRODUCTIVE discussion, not a rerun of the fucking REPRODUCTIVE discussion. Sheeeit. Fucking Healthcare signs off on Androgel, why not HRT? Fuck, how long are wimmin gonna put up with being second class citizens and argue against their rights? How long are men gonna tell wimmin what they can and can't do with their bodies or what kinda meds they can have access to? Democracy means CHOICE, Theocracy means Rick Perry. You decide.