While you seem to have no hesitation to respond derisively to the ladies who, by all indications, are obviously not Sugar Baby material; your silence regarding the exchange between Jaycee Rivers and Whispers is deafening.
In my opinion, that exchange was among the better ones I have encountered on this board. Both individuals conducted themselves with respect and decorum and their postings were very well thought out and well articulated. I would be curious to hear your thoughts on that exchange and to hear if, like Whispers, you could at least acknowledge that it is possible that a provider could be a SB.
Originally Posted by stimulatethemind
Thank-you for the props but I think you misread my conclusions.....
I have been very close minded on this subject for a long time and although I cannot say at this moment my views have changed you have presented your opinions in such a manner that I cannot simply discount them as I tend to do most others.... well ALL others is probably more accurate....
Originally Posted by Whispers
I will have to continue to believe that a Provider turned SugarBaby is as believable as Abominable Snowmen, Big Foot and that Cops can't lie when entrapping you.....
Originally Posted by Whispers
GotYour6 and I most often hit with a hard edge. You will find many similar comments to his in the mix in this and other threads.........
I, on occasion, will pause to engage someone that presents themselves in a well thought out manner in the same manner they use to convey their ideas. The exchange with Ms. Rivers was very refreshing and brought forth a lot of information.
Please do not mistake the civility displayed in my exchange with Ms Rivers to be any endorsement for the possibility that a Provider can be a Sugar Baby on my part. I still do not believe it possible. Perhaps overtime Ms Rivers will convince me otherwise but for now that has not happened.
Please see the above 2 quotes from my posts for clarification......
Ms. Rivers presents herself in a manner no other Provider I have encountered on these boards has and no logical person could simply discount her views having read her argument. In regards to GotYour6..... You assume too much in thinking he might have read the exchange. He's wasted plenty of time already getting to know my views and I am way to wordy at times for his likes......
I acknowledge Ms Rivers views and the reasoning behind them...... It is the best position statement I have ever seen a lady make here and she displays something NO OTHER lady has in discussing the need for a Provider to set aside what she has learned and be open to establishing trust in manners she might not be used to. No lady has ever made that argument before or used an example that is straight out of the methodology I employ...
Where her argument fails with me is that I don't believe, from experience, that a provider can execute what she has displayed she can understand.......
I believe Ms Rivers knows and understands what it takes......but she is presenting her views as a Provider. Not as a Sugar Baby. She acknowledges that herself.
I think if she was making her case as a Sugar Baby that at some time in the past WAS a Provider I would possibly think differently but only after getting to know her much better so that I could come to believe she is not simply good at reading a person and telling them what she comes to know they want to hear. In her exchanges with me she acknowledged as well as proved she is very skilled in her ability to adapt and mirror a man in order be what he needs her to be.
One MAJOR difference between Providers and ever single lady I have taken as a Mistress or SB over the year(s that was with me 6 months or more) is the fact that not a single one of those ladies EVER repeated the experience with any other man when their time with me ended. Each and Every one grew as a person, educated themselves, began a new career, fell in love with and partnered with a man that they are still with today. (not me)... Thoe that have heard the stories know that I have ALWAYS lost the best ones to love..... Not love for me.... but to finding themselves in a position where Mr. RIght finds them and wins their heart in a manner that their time with me has to end.......
I do not believe being a Sugar Baby is a life style choice...... I believe that it is a bridge from some rocky place in a ladies life to a much more fulfilling and rewarding life more in line with the expected norm of society......
If that were not to have happened I would feel that I failed them in my responsibility to mentor and help them grow as individuals. I would feel very negatively about my actions for one of them to have NEEDED anyone else after me......
Most Providers refuse to see it as anything other than an extended P4P arrangement and even when entering one seem to end up back in the hobby not having capitalized on what is possible and most likely having proved out the arguments that a provider cannot be a Sugar Baby.
I find Ms. Rivers to be very unique in her understanding of what being a Sugar Baby can be. I learned a good bit from my exchange with her. But I still share the same view as GotYour6.
I would very much enjoy hearing the tale of the right man coming along that can set aside all I believe most of us cannot that meets Ms Rivers and gives her the opportunity to prove what she has stated in a manner that takes her away from this community and sets her on a new path never to look back......
For now..... Pretty woman will remain an enjoyable movie experience
