I just finished watching what I would call a very in-depth report with the former Director of the CDC, Dr. Redfield, who after a couple of weeks ago going on tv and saying that he believes the lab leak theory is the more plausible one, took a break from commenting because he was getting death threats. Can you imagine? "If you don't stop talking about an alternate theory, we will kill you"? What the fuck is that all about?You're looking for a conspiracy around every corner, just like I'm looking for the Delta variant around every corner. That's not to say that one or the other of us is not right.
He went on to say that he was disappointed that Dr. Fauci was so wedded, to the bat to intermediate host ( that nobody can identify yet ) to human and so dismissive of the lab leak theory. It just didn't seem like something a scientist would do, discount a plausible theory with such rigor.
What am I hearing the former Director of the CDC, that was there at the beginning, that had the highest security clearance of any scientist at the time working side by side with the Secy. of State trying to figure all this out, is that he doesn't quite understand what motivated Fauci., Dr Dazak, head of ECCO Health that actually gave the money to the Wuhan lab to do gain of function research, to take the path they took, other than to cover their ass because they are in a direct line of American money, going to a lab in China who has apparently lied about literally everything concerning the origins of Covid.
That doesn't sound like an organization that was looking out for the best interests of the public.
The best interest of the public would have been better served by pressing China, not giving them carte blanche to write a report resolving them of any responsibility in all this.
He imagined a conversation between Dazak and Fauci going something like this, "what if it gets out that we gave this lab money to do this research that we have now said we don't think they were doing" and Dazak saying there were no bats in that lab with now video proof from Australian TV that there were indeed bats in that lab. This whole mess could be dropped right at their feet! 600,000 dead Americans and they weren't as forth coming as they should have been.
Yeah, sounds like they had their own interest above that of the public with regard to the information that was available in the beginning had they been honest.
Did they do all that they could do to help stop this once it started, maybe and maybe they should get credit for that but that's only one part of this story. What if it is confirmed, I think it already has been, that Fauci and Dazak were less than truthful because their ass was on the line if any of this got out?
Would that change your opinion? That just maybe the CDC was manipulated by various players like the Medical Journal Lancet seems to have been manipulated to stop this lab theory in it's tracks because this could open up a real "can of worms" for a lot of people?
Why was Fauci so determined to squash the lab leak theory? As a scientist, he should have said from day one that both theories would be investigated and never have picked one over the other to support with all the information now coming forth that it would appear he had a conflict of interest to say the least in all this.
So combine the mistakes of the CDC and the "apparent" ( to me and others ) attempt to down play the lab leak theory and to me, the CDC does not come out of this looking like they had the best interest of the public at heart.
Originally Posted by HedonistForever
I don't agree with your approach. The interests of America and the World would be best served if we got to the bottom of this, so it doesn't happen again, or if it does we're better prepared. Maybe the Chinese know what happened and the rest of the world doesn't. Maybe the Chinese don't know. Either way we need their cooperation. You threaten to isolate them or sue them for $10 trillion and you're not going to get anywhere.
There are risks in many parts of the world, not just China. They include mining and using bat guano; humans living in proximity to bats; humans living in proximity to other animals like birds, monkeys, pangolins and civets; wet markets;labs with inadequate safety procedures; and labs doing gain of function research. If we understand the risks and their relative importance we'll be better off, assuming we have politicians, public officials, and people in private companies, universities and hospitals who will use good judgement. Which we haven't necessarily had to date, outside of the vaccine companies like Moderna, Biontech, Novartis and Pfizer, which have performed beyond our highest expectations.
Anyone who believes with certainty that the virus was created in the Wuhan laboratory is naive.