#DiedSuddenly reporting

did 1 million plus die of covid or did they die of something else while merely covid positive?

seems to have been more than some small debate on that topic



CNN analyst slammed after writing COVID deaths are being overcounted: ‘TWO AND A HALF YEARS LATE’

https://nypost.com/2023/01/14/dr-lea...g-overcounted/


Opinion We are overcounting covid deaths and hospitalizations. That’s a problem.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...-overcounting/


and of course the powers that be won't tolerate this radical "nonsense" (especially if it could be true)



WaPo Feeds Denial With False Claims About Overcounting Covid Deaths

https://fair.org/home/wapo-feeds-den...-covid-deaths/


ACP: Falsely Accusing Physicians of Overcounting COVID-19 Deaths For Financial Gain is Reprehensible

https://www.acponline.org/acp-newsro...-reprehensible



why would hospitals over-count covid cases? money.


Government pays hospitals more money for Covid-19 patients than non-Covid patients

https://www.kgns.tv/2022/03/28/gover...ovid-patients/ Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

That's all well and good. Leana Wen's a smart person, and very fuckable for a woman her age.

But how do you explain the fact that there were 2,854,838 total deaths in the USA in 2019, and 3,358,814 in 2020? That's over 500,000 more deaths year-on-year, and only around 350,000 were allocated to COVID on the National Center for Health Statistics database:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2778234

That's what leads most to believe that the number of deaths attributable to the COVID pandemic in the USA were UNDERCOUNTED, in 2020 at least.

So what else could have caused the increase in deaths?

The vaccine wasn't around in 2020. It can't be that.

Yeah, there were some deaths attributable to deferred medical care. But 350,000 to 450,000?

You could blame it on people going stir crazy because of lockdowns and committing hari kari. But suicides actually went down.

And yes, some people did off their old ladies when they were cooped up 24/7 - homicides increased by 30%. But like the flu explanation you all proposed, the numbers are small.

You're left with COVID, the disease as an explanation, unless you believe some kind of massive nationwide cover up occurred, that involved participation of doctors, hospitals, and county and state health officials, in addition to people at the federal level. Somehow they'd have to come up with about 450,000 fake deaths. It would be kind of the reverse of what George Parr did in Duval County, or what Richard Daley did in Chicago, when they got dead people to vote.

Why did you post the ACP link? It contradicts your theory.

here's another example of suppressing facts that are inconvenient to the narrative.

recall the NY Doctor who reported that early in the "feardemic" many doctors were setting respirators too high and caused unneeded lung damage that actually increased deaths for covid patients?


yeah that guy had to be silenced. because he was proven right.


NYC doctor says high ventilator settings damage coronavirus patients’ lungs

https://nypost.com/2020/04/06/nyc-do...-are-too-high/


A Brooklyn doctor is warning that critically ill coronavirus patients are being inadvertently harmed by the very same breathing machines being used to keep them alive.


In a video posted on YouTube, Dr. Cameron Kyle-Sidell, an emergency medicine physician at Maimonides Medical Center, said that “we are putting breathing tubes in people and putting them on ventilators and dialing up the pressure to open up their lungs.”


“I’ve talked to doctors all around the country and it is becoming increasingly clear that the pressure we’re providing may be hurting their lungs, that it is highly likely that the high pressures we’re using are damaging the lungs of the patients we are putting the breathing tubes in,” he said in a two-minute video he posted Wednesday.


Kyle-Sidell, who’s board-certified in emergency medicine, didn’t return a message from The Post, but he told WebMd’s Medscape website that his beliefs led him to “step down from my position in the ICU.”


“We ran into an impasse where I could not morally, in a patient-doctor relationship, I could not continue the current protocols which again, are the protocols at the top hospitals in the country,” he said in a video interview posted Monday.


“So now I’m back in the ER where we are setting up slightly different ventilation strategies.”


In his Wednesday YouTube video, Kyle-Sidell described the situation involving the ventilator settings as “not our fault.”

“We didn’t know. This is how we treat ARDS [acute respiratory distress syndrome]. This is how we’ve treated it for the last 20 years,” he said in the video.


But Kyle-Sidell insisted that “we need to change those protocols” and cautioned that “the time for us to change them is rapidly diminishing.”


“COVID-positive patients need oxygen. They do not need pressure,” he said.


“They will need ventilators — but they must be programmed differently.”


In another video posted Sunday, Kyle-Sidell described COVID-19 as “a disease that does not make sense to us — a disease for which our usual treatment does not work.”


“Some are questioning whether this is a lung disease causing blood problems or a blood disease causing lung problems,” he said.


“I don’t know what it is, but I know that I have never seen it before. People are dying of a disease we don’t understand, thousand of people, old and young, and yes, there are young people dying.”


Kyle-Sidell has also said that “COVID-19 lung disease, as far as I can see, is not a pneumonia” but seems to be “some kind of viral-induced disease most resembling high altitude sickness.”


“It is as if tens of thousands of my fellow New Yorkers are on a plane at 30,000 feet and the cabin pressure is slowly being let out,” he said in a video posted Tuesday.


“These patients are slowly being starved of oxygen … and while they look like patients absolutely on the brink of death, they do not look like patients dying of pneumonia.”


James Cai, a physician assistant who was New Jersey’s first coronavirus patient, told The Post that he agreed with Kyle-Sidell’s observations and conclusions, based on his own experience in beating the deadly disease.


“It all makes sense why experts in China told me to use oxygen to sleep no matter what and use it whenever I needed during the day,” he said via text message.
“We need all the researchers to take very close to this disease and don’t just follow the paradigm of how to treat PNA[pneumonia]/ARDS.”


Cai noted that the “muscle of the lung in ARDS patient doesn’t work properly but muscle in COVID-19 patient works just fine. So [a] ventilator is actually doing more harm to [the] lung when it happens.”


“It is a new disease and none of the American doctors have encountered it in their lives, not in textbook and they are figuring things out by experience!” he added.


“They really need help because thousands of thousands [of] Americans’ lives are on the line!”


Maimonides didn’t immediately return a request for comment.


this doctor was right in both ways, first that the traditional treatments were thought appropriate at the beginning of this and the doctors following traditional methods were not at fault. he's also right that it became quickly obvious this type of treatment was not correct for the type of symptoms of the patients.


his point is that no one wanted to even discuss this based on growing evidence and of course he was censured for bring it up.


uboob promptly banned his video. you can click on the link in the article or this direct link here


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWaq8HoEROU


want to guess what happens? you already know. 3 years later after being proven right this video is still considered "disinformation"


This video isn't available anymore

That's all well and good. Leana Wen's a smart person, and very fuckable for a woman her age.

But how do you explain the fact that there were 2,854,838 total deaths in the USA in 2019, and 3,358,814 in 2020? That's over 500,000 more deaths year-on-year, and only around 350,000 were allocated to COVID on the National Center for Health Statistics database:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2778234

That's what leads most to believe that the number of deaths attributable to the COVID pandemic in the USA were UNDERCOUNTED, in 2020 at least.

So what else could have caused the increase in deaths?

The vaccine wasn't around in 2020. It can't be that.

Yeah, there were some deaths attributable to deferred medical care. But 350,000 to 450,000?

You could blame it on people going stir crazy because of lockdowns and committing hari kari. But suicides actually went down.

And yes, some people did off their old ladies when they were cooped up 24/7 - homicides increased by 30%. But like the flu explanation you all proposed, the numbers are small.

You're left with COVID, the disease as an explanation, unless you believe some kind of massive nationwide cover up occurred, that involved participation of doctors, hospitals, and county and state health officials.

Why did you post the ACP link? It contradicts your theory. Originally Posted by Tiny

isn't that obvious? it's the counter argument. point counterpoint. sorta making your reply redundant.



both of us can easily find half a dozen or more articles each supporting over counting or under counting. that's not the point.


the point is anyone questioning the official narrative must immediately be silenced. like the post i just made about the NYC Doctor.

isn't that obvious? it's the counter argument. point counterpoint. sorta making your reply redundant.



both of us can easily find half a dozen or more articles each supporting over counting or under counting. that's not the point.


the point is anyone questioning the official narrative must immediately be silenced. like the post i just made about the NYC Doctor. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Ok, please allow me to simplify. Five hundred thousand more people, eighteen percent more, died in 2020 than 2019 in the USA. Nobody has a reasonable explanation, other than COVID, for that.

Ok, please allow me to simplify. Five hundred thousand more people, eighteen percent more, died in 2020 than 2019 in the USA. Nobody has a reasonable explanation, other than COVID, for that. Originally Posted by Tiny

500,00 is a lot of people dying from just one disease. Not everyone caught Covid and not everyone who caught Covid made it known to any group compiling data. The PCR Tests is seriously flawed which makes the number of cases and deaths questionable.

...Nobody has a reasonable explanation, other than COVID, for that. Originally Posted by Tiny

Trump. The Lefty-Loons were so consumed (skeered) by him, that they lost their frick'n minds and opened the Gates of Hell.

....The PCR Tests is seriously flawed which makes the number of cases and deaths questionable. Originally Posted by Levianon17

FTFY: The PCR Tests is seriously fraud, which makes the number of cases and deaths questionable.

FTFY: The PCR Tests is seriously fraud, which makes the number of cases and deaths questionable. Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

That's true. The PCR Test was never intended to be a diagnostic tool but that's what they are using as. It's also rumored that there is Nano Particles at the end of the swab, not good.

500,00 is a lot of people dying from just one disease. Not everyone caught Covid and not everyone who caught Covid made it known to any group compiling data. The PCR Tests is seriously flawed which makes the number of cases and deaths questionable. Originally Posted by Levianon17

Trump. The Lefty-Loons were so consumed (skeered) by him, that they lost their frick'n minds and opened the Gates of Hell. Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Gentlemen, God gave you more brains than most people. Please use them.

Returning to my link, "the leading causes of death in the US for 2020," from the Journal of the American Medical Association, here are total deaths by year in the USA:

2015 2,712,630
2016 2,744,248 (31,618 increase compared to 2015)
2017 2,813,503 (69,255 increase)
2018 2,839,205 (25,702 increase)
2019 2,854,838 (15,633 increase)
2020 3,358,814 (503,976 increase)

Of those 503,976 additional deaths in 2020, only 345,323 were chalked up to COVID-19. That number was later revised upwards to 350,831 COVID deaths.

So that leaves 150,000 additional deaths to chalk up to more homicides, deferred medical care, more old people, whatever you want. I'm sure there were people whose deaths were ascribed to heart disease, diabetes and the like who wouldn't have died in 2020 if they hadn't caught COVID.

That's true. The PCR Test was never intended to be a diagnostic tool but that's what they are using as.... Originally Posted by Levianon17

Got burnt agin. The PCR Test was never intended to be a diagnostic tool but that's what they are abusing it as.

Please support your misguided belief that the Pfizer Covid vaccine is neither safe nor effective. You can't. Keep making ridiculous posts. I keep proving your posts to be factually incorrect. You don't like it. Too bad. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

LOL. You haven't proven a single thing. posting Pfizer backed studies that show that the mRNA injections were safe and effective isn't proving anything. But if you want to believe, you go right on believing. I hear there's plenty of folks like you that think you can become a girl by cutting off your dick too.

Believing something the government tells you isn't wisdom.

You used the wrong tense in the last sentence above. There "was" a control group There "is" no more. I recall Speedy was part of that shuffle off to Buffalo, aka disbanding of the control group. That level of scientific fraud brought to you by the makers of Industrial Strength fear-porn. Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Well in their defense everyone that took the mRNA injections is participating in the worlds largest drug trials in history.... I guess we will know how it all turns out in a couple of years.

Gentlemen, God gave you more brains than most people. Please use them.

Returning to my link, "the leading causes of death in the US for 2020," from the Journal of the American Medical Association, here are total deaths by year in the USA:

2015 2,712,630
2016 2,744,248 (31,618 increase compared to 2015)
2017 2,813,503 (69,255 increase)
2018 2,839,205 (25,702 increase)
2019 2,854,838 (15,633 increase)
2020 3,358,814 (503,976 increase)

Of those 503,976 additional deaths in 2020, only 345,323 were chalked up to COVID-19. That number was later revised upwards to 350,831 COVID deaths.

So that leaves 150,000 additional deaths to chalk up to more homicides, deferred medical care, more old people, whatever you want. I'm sure there were people whose deaths were ascribed to heart disease, diabetes and the like who wouldn't have died in 2020 if they hadn't caught COVID. Originally Posted by Tiny

We are using our brains that's what prompts us to questions things that don't exactly add up. Not everything is as it seems.

Was it a pure culture? A virus capable of disease must be identified and grown in a pure culture without anything else added. The pure culture when inoculated into a human or animal must produce the disease. Originally Posted by Levianon17

As you know, it's not possible to do that. Virions can't reproduce outside of host cells. They're simply strands of RNA or DNA inside of protein sheaths, and the RNA/DNA can't replicate, outside of a host. You can't "grow" virions "without anything else added." You must have host cells.

As you know, it's not possible to do that. Virions can't reproduce outside of host cells. They're simply strands of RNA or DNA inside of protein sheaths, and the RNA/DNA can't replicate, outside of a host. You can't "grow" virions "without anything else added." You must have host cells. Originally Posted by Tiny

Iam going to let the Doctor in this clip explain it. He can explain it much better than I can besides nobody wants to believe me anyway.



https://www.bitchute.com/video/Z7e1WLoOctZ2/

LOL... just a coincidence I suppose. Must be all that Global warming is why this has been deemed necessary.

NFL FOUNDS COALITION TO ADVANCE ADOPTION OF LIFE-SAVING POLICIES FOR STUDENT ATHLETES

Maybe they should consider not mandating the experimental COVID mRNA injections?