Malaysian airlines: the rise of Al Queada?

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I still have my deck. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

You ain't been playing with a full deck since birth.

LL can hide his own eggs.

l.l....
how would you suggest using OUR military in any of the situations you named....
bomb them....send in troops....drone them to death....
there's not much upside for using the military in any of these situations........

.. and the "Cry-Meuns" just got annexed, the Syrians are slaughtering their people, Libya is turned upside down, Egypt is in turmoil, and Afghanistan is going to hell in a hand-basket as we post ...

.. North Korea is lobbing shit left and right ... Isreal has given up on us.

When one retreats ... it does look like a defeat, doesn't it. And ..

.. since we aren't going to use our military any more ... downsize it! Originally Posted by LexusLover

l.l....
how would you suggest using OUR military in any of the situations you named....
bomb them....send in troops....drone them to death....
there's not much upside for using the military in any of these situations........ Originally Posted by stevepar

Stevebogey, you are missing the whole point

Being strong and having a credible threat and holding that big stick will keep the peace.

Drawing red lines and yapping like a Chihuahua only invites adventurism.

Move some troops. Move a few aircraft carriers. Position a few missiles. Show some steel.

Then glue Obama's eyes open so he doesn't blink.

Then glue Obama's eyes open so he doesn't blink. Originally Posted by TheDaliLama

As I distinctly recall, Lama and his fellow ASPD neo-cons (LexiLiar and Gonad the Turdfly) were not at all concerned about our POTUS blinking during the spring of 2003.

But repeatedly blink, Shrub did! Fact of the matter is, he had no blink control! Hell, Shrubya even blinked in his friggin' sleep!

Had they glued Shrub's "eyes open so he doesn't blink" during the winter of 2002, America would have killed OBL years earlier. Instead GW blinked and then lost his focus when he authorized the spring of 2003 invasion of Iraq. Shrub did so at an eventual cost of 4500+ dead American soldiers and almost $1 trillion.

The rest is history!

Fortunately America regained it's focus in 2009 when they elected a new President.

MISSION FINALLY ACCOMPLISHED!

Oh well, the ill fated and ill advised spring of 2003 invasion of Iraq proved to be just another in a very long line of Shrubya's missed opportunities!

But we can all take comfort in knowing that America had to elect a "Muslim President born in Kenya" before they could finally locate and kill the sorry bastard who was the perpetrator of 9/11.

OBL now sleeps with the fishes!

The rest my version of history!

Fortunately America regained it's focus in 2009 when they elected a new President, but since then it has been down hill all the way. Originally Posted by bigtex

Fixed it for you.

As for OBL, too bad he wasn't taken into custody in 1998, ..

............ 911 could have been avoided.

2016 is coming like a freight train.

l.l....
how would you suggest using OUR military ........ Originally Posted by stevepar

Other than providing a path to a GED or OJT for the unable to be employed, how would "you suggest using OUR military"?

As for OBL, too bad he wasn't taken into custody in 1998, ..

............ 911 could have been avoided. Originally Posted by LexusLover

LexiLiar, is that the best you got?

You had better check your magazine. As usual, you're firing blanks!

Well I can see you do not understand the difference between looking for a plane that disappeared and looking for the Easter Bunny. Originally Posted by WTF

I always wondered if you believed in the Easter Bunny .. now we know.

You do.

Were the inspectors "supposed" to be looking for WMDs that didn't exist?

(Actually that is a rhetorical question.)

BT answered it (or avoided answering it actually) long ago.

Did the inspectors or anyone else ever found any? Only WMD'S were the words of the administration leading us to war.

Did the inspectors or anyone else ever found any? Only WMD'S were the words of the administration leading us to war. Originally Posted by i'va biggen

We shall see if LexiLiar will truthfully respond to this question. I doubt seriously that he will.

Truth is a language that seems to be quite foreign to him.

We shall see if LexiLiar will truthfully respond to this question. I doubt seriously that he will. Originally Posted by bigtex

What is the "truth" BT? If you are going to call someone a "liar" ...

.. having proof of the truth is a basic requirement.

And I "assume" your buddy, ivalittleone, is meaning ... after the re-invasion.

Did the inspectors or anyone else ever found any? Only WMD'S were the words of the administration, Congress, and every intelligence agency of the Western world, plus Russians, leading us to war. Originally Posted by i'va biggen

There, fixed it for you!

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to
develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them.
That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is
clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's
weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a
great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will
use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies
is the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten
times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with
the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including,
if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to
respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its
weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom
Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of
mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the
region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of
mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons
programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear
programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In
addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is
doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop
longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our
allies." Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and
others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and
a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the
mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass
destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and
chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible
to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as
Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and
developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are
confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and
biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course
to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities.
Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the
authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein
because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass
destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working
aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear
weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we
have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in
development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11
years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he
disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any
nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" Rep.
- Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports
show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and
biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his
nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to
terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if
left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity
to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to
develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that
Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing
capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass
destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal,
murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to
his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass
destruction. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass
destruction is real."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

Originally Posted by TheDaliLama

ReRead!

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports
show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and
biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his
nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to
terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if
left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity
to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to
develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

Yep, LexiLiar is still having difficulty speaking the truth!

I suspect that he always will.