Hannity's response to Stewart.
Just for the purposes of equal time.
http://mediamatters.org/video/2014/0...anch-ta/198984
Bundy paid his grazing fees until the BLM refused to take his money, you potato-headed Yankee mick. The BLM refused to take Bundy's money for grazing fees because Bundy wouldn't contract with the BLM to reduce his herd size as the BLM demanded in the name protecting the desert tortoise, you DNA challenged Yankee retard. Nevertheless, the BLM quite willingly allowed Reid and his moneyed, politically connected associates to proceed with plans to permanently destroy -- with bulldozers and other heavy equipment -- the same desert tortoise habitat the BLM CLAIMED it was protecting from cattle that have historically coexisted with the desert tortoise for some 500 years, you moronic Yankee jackass. That has all of the hallmarks of arbitrary enforcement of the law, you dumb-fuck Yankee retard.
Keep reading the article, tranny fuckee. Including ALL the reasons listed for grazing fees.
And read the quote above about Bundy NOT recognizing the federal government.
You have been maintaing all along that the federal government was acting "arbitrarily" by "pretending" to protect the torsoise by raising grazing fees. Then you threw in some stupid shit about grazing for 500 years not harming the tortoise - as if you (or the ranchers) really had a clue.
Bundy's non-payment of fees has NOTHING to do with the desert tortoise and EVERYTHING to do with a deadbeat refusing to pay for use of federal lands. If the federal government had NEVER mentioned the tortoise and just cited water resources or foliage protection, this STILL would have happened.
But you and every anti-gummint mouth-breather are claiming the desert tortoise is not endangered (you have NO idea if that is true) and the federal gummint is using that as a "cover" operation (you have NO support for that) for their REAL motive, which is a land grab.
Of course, you cannot explain how the government can grab its own land. So, then you start lying about "perceptions" - because you LOST the discussions about legal claims.
Originally Posted by ExNYer
you potato-headed Yankee mick Originally Posted by I B HankeringWhy don't you explain that one, asshole.
Why don't you explain that one, asshole.You're all about sniffing the streaks in your shorts, 1-800-JCM-DATO: the lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM's soiled breechclout.
(...and don't forget to use "breechclout" in your explanation ...you don't want to ruin that modern day record you've got going of using obsolete terms ....keep the streak alive ...right dummy?) Originally Posted by JCM800
Hannity's response to Stewart.My player would not play it so....
Just for the purposes of equal time.
http://mediamatters.org/video/2014/0...anch-ta/198984 Originally Posted by boardman
Bundy paid his grazing fees until the BLM refused to take his money, you potato-headed Yankee mick. The BLM refused to take Bundy's money for grazing fees because Bundy wouldn't contract with the BLM to reduce his herd size as the BLM demanded in the name protecting the desert tortoise, you DNA challenged Yankee retard. Originally Posted by I B HankeringTardboy tranny fuckee:
Nevertheless, the BLM quite willingly allowed Reid and his moneyed, politically connected associates to proceed with plans to permanently destroy -- with bulldozers and other heavy equipment -- the same desert tortoise habitat the BLM CLAIMED it was protecting from cattle that have historically coexisted with the desert tortoise for some 500 years, you moronic Yankee jackass. That has all of the hallmarks of arbitrary enforcement of the law, you dumb-fuck Yankee retard. Originally Posted by I B HankeringLiar. That is horseshit and you know it.
Your POV about Bundy being wrong doesn't mean the BLM is right, you dumb-fuck Yankee jackass: it never equated as such, and it never will.
Tardboy tranny fuckee:
Stop trying to explain the law when you clearly don't know what it is.
Bundy doesn't have the option of refusing to accept the terms and conditions of the BLM contract, but continuing to graze anyway. If you refuse to sign a contract, you don't get to accept the benefits of the deal. That would be like refusing to sign a lease renewal on your apartment (because you don't like the increased rent), but then continuing to live in the apartment without paying the landlord.
And the BLM wouldn't accept payment, because if they did, there is a good chance that a court would construe such an action as acquiescing to Bundy'a demands.
So you either accept the deal in its entirety or your walk away.
And you don't get to questions the motives of the BLM. Bundy's opinion of why the BLM is doing it is irrelevant. Re-read the Salon article.
It lists a BUNCH of reasons why the BLM and Forest service use grazing fees that have nothing to do with tortoises. There is nothing arbitrary about implementing fees.
And the increased fee was trivial. The only reason he owes over $1 million is dues to penalties, late fines and interest.
Was there something that prevented Bundy from relocating part of his heard - other than his desire to free load, that is?
If he couldn't live with the reduced herd size, why didn't he graze the excess cattle somewhere else? If the feds wanted to cut his herd from 1000 to 700, why didn't he graze the other 300 somewhere else?
The answer is OBVIOUS. He would have to pay a grazing fee to the property owner if he moved them to private land.
He figured he had a better shot at free loading on government land.
Liar. That is horseshit and you know it.
It has already been pointed out numerous times that the plot of land for the NEVER implemented solar plant was about 180 miles away from where Bundy grazed. It was NOT the same habitat, but you are repeating the BIG LIE.
Also, you keep saying that the tortoise and the herds have co-existed peacefully for 500 years, but do you have any proof of that other than your own assertions? For all you know, the cattle have killed off 95% of the toroises over the last 500 years. Provide some links liar.
Also, can you provide ANY link at all to some requirement that the BLM or any other agency must treat ALL habitats equally? You seem to think - inaccurately of course - that if the BLM protects one tortoise habitat, it must protect ALL tortoise habitats. That is horseshit of course. It would be entirely permissible for the BLM or EPA or some other agency to provide one level of protection for a species in one area (e.g., the grazing area used by Bundy) and a different level of protection to the same species in another area (e.g., the solar farm area).
Those are judgment calls that agencies are permitted to make and - contrary to your idiot beliefs - they are not arbitrary.
Hypothetically speaking, the BLM could determine solar panels are not a threat to tortoises because: 1) unlike cattle, they can't walk so they won't step on tortoises; 2) they are confined to a small area and, since they can't walk, they won't kill the vegetation across a wide area where they might roam; 3) they can't consume water; 4) they don't have to be fenced in; and 5) etc. YOU GET THE IDEA.
So, NO, disparate treatment of the Bundy grazing area and the solar farm - 180 miles apart - is NOT evidence that the BLM was being arbitrary in saying they were protecting the tortoise.
Your stupidity not withstanding. If you have proof to the contray, provide a link, IBLying.
This is about ONE thing only and it isn't desert tortoises. Bundy did not want to pay increased grazing fees, whether to the federal government or to a private land owner. He wanted to continue to pay only what he had been paying in the 1980s.
He is a freeloader and has the same thieving mindset that tenants in rent-controlled apartments in NY and elsewhere have. They never want there to be any increases and want OTHER people to pay their freight.
The cries by Bundy and his supporters about alleged government lies regarding the tortoise are a lying distraction. If the government had never mentioned the tortoise, it would have been something else instead - like accusing the goverenment of lying about water shortages because they weren't doing anything to shut down Las Vegas.
He isn't an American hero. He isn't some rugged individual. He isn't even "the little guy" fighting about the "cruel oppressive government" and their black helicopters.
He is a welfare queen who wears a cowboy hat.
Originally Posted by ExNYer
Your POV about Bundy being wrong doesn't mean the BLM is right, you dumb-fuck Yankee jackass: it never equated as such, and it never will. Originally Posted by I B HankeringAh, but who says the BLM was wrong - about ANYTHING? You?
Further, you moronic Yankee buffoon, the area Reid, et al, was trying to develop was designated a desert tortoise habitat just like the area Bundy's herds are grazing on, and your asinine attempts to claim otherwise are as obviously ignorant as they are wrong. The BLM's picking and choosing to allow Reid and company to destroy the habitat of the desert tortoise while choosing to deny Bundy, and other ranchers, the right to continue using the habitat of the desert tortoise as it has been used for almost 500 years has all of the hallmarks of arbitrary law enforcement, you retarded-fucking Yankee. Originally Posted by I B HankeringClearly you cannot read and do not know what the term "arbitrary" means when referring to government actions. You just pretend you do.
Fuck, if I needed to hire a bulldog you are an unstoppable mo fo!!!
Tardboy tranny fuckee:
Stop trying to explain the law when you clearly don't know what it is.
Bundy doesn't have the option of refusing to accept the terms and conditions of the BLM contract, but continuing to graze anyway. If you refuse to sign a contract, you don't get to accept the benefits of the deal. That would be like refusing to sign a lease renewal on your apartment (because you don't like the increased rent), but then continuing to live in the apartment without paying the landlord.
And the BLM wouldn't accept payment, because if they did, there is a good chance that a court would construe such an action as acquiescing to Bundy'a demands.
So you either accept the deal in its entirety or your walk away.
And you don't get to questions the motives of the BLM. Bundy's opinion of why the BLM is doing it is irrelevant. Re-read the Salon article.
It lists a BUNCH of reasons why the BLM and Forest service use grazing fees that have nothing to do with tortoises. There is nothing arbitrary about implementing fees.
And the increased fee was trivial. The only reason he owes over $1 million is dues to penalties, late fines and interest.
Was there something that prevented Bundy from relocating part of his heard - other than his desire to free load, that is?
If he couldn't live with the reduced herd size, why didn't he graze the excess cattle somewhere else? If the feds wanted to cut his herd from 1000 to 700, why didn't he graze the other 300 somewhere else?
The answer is OBVIOUS. He would have to pay a grazing fee to the property owner if he moved them to private land.
He figured he had a better shot at free loading on government land.
Liar. That is horseshit and you know it.
It has already been pointed out numerous times that the plot of land for the NEVER implemented solar plant was about 180 miles away from where Bundy grazed. It was NOT the same habitat, but you are repeating the BIG LIE.
Also, you keep saying that the tortoise and the herds have co-existed peacefully for 500 years, but do you have any proof of that other than your own assertions? For all you know, the cattle have killed off 95% of the toroises over the last 500 years. Provide some links liar.
Also, can you provide ANY link at all to some requirement that the BLM or any other agency must treat ALL habitats equally? You seem to think - inaccurately of course - that if the BLM protects one tortoise habitat, it must protect ALL tortoise habitats. That is horseshit of course. It would be entirely permissible for the BLM or EPA or some other agency to provide one level of protection for a species in one area (e.g., the grazing area used by Bundy) and a different level of protection to the same species in another area (e.g., the solar farm area).
Those are judgment calls that agencies are permitted to make and - contrary to your idiot beliefs - they are not arbitrary.
Hypothetically speaking, the BLM could determine solar panels are not a threat to tortoises because: 1) unlike cattle, they can't walk so they won't step on tortoises; 2) they are confined to a small area and, since they can't walk, they won't kill the vegetation across a wide area where they might roam; 3) they can't consume water; 4) they don't have to be fenced in; and 5) etc. YOU GET THE IDEA.
So, NO, disparate treatment of the Bundy grazing area and the solar farm - 180 miles apart - is NOT evidence that the BLM was being arbitrary in saying they were protecting the tortoise.
Your stupidity not withstanding. If you have proof to the contray, provide a link, IBLying.
This is about ONE thing only and it isn't desert tortoises. Bundy did not want to pay increased grazing fees, whether to the federal government or to a private land owner. He wanted to continue to pay only what he had been paying in the 1980s.
He is a freeloader and has the same thieving mindset that tenants in rent-controlled apartments in NY and elsewhere have. They never want there to be any increases and want OTHER people to pay their freight.
The cries by Bundy and his supporters about alleged government lies regarding the tortoise are a lying distraction. If the government had never mentioned the tortoise, it would have been something else instead - like accusing the goverenment of lying about water shortages because they weren't doing anything to shut down Las Vegas.
He isn't an American hero. He isn't some rugged individual. He isn't even "the little guy" fighting about the "cruel oppressive government" and their black helicopters.
He is a welfare queen who wears a cowboy hat.
Originally Posted by ExNYer
Fuck, if I needed to hire a bulldog you are an unstoppable mo fo!!!If you saw the now-expired pictures of the providers he reviewed in New Orleans, the facts would most definitely be in evidence.
However, accusing him of liking trannies assumes facts not in evidence, so please retract that.
You gotta admit, a "moronic Yankee buffon" is kinda entertaining.... Originally Posted by Jewish Lawyer
Fuck, if I needed to hire a bulldog you are an unstoppable mo fo!!!
However, accusing him of liking trannies assumes facts not in evidence, so please retract that.
You gotta admit, a "moronic Yankee buffon" is kinda entertaining.... Originally Posted by Jewish Lawyer
Ah, but who says the BLM was wrong - about ANYTHING? You? Once again you are wrong, you ignorant Yankee jackass!
"Both Gov. Brian Sandoval and Sen. Dean Heller have condemned the BLS for what they characterize as heavy-handed actions involving Bundy and other Silver State residents.... oh, and btw, there is Bundy and company to consider. Fucktard!
'I told him very clearly that law-abiding Nevadans must not be penalized by an over-reaching BLM,' Heller said."
Clearly you cannot read and do not know what the term "arbitrary" means when referring to government actions. You just pretend you do. For your edification, you ignorant Yankee jackass:
ar•bi•trary adjective \ˈär-bə-ˌtrer-ē, -ˌtre-rē\
2
a : not restrained or limited in the exercise of power : ruling by absolute authority <an arbitrary government>
b : marked by or resulting from the unrestrained and often tyrannical exercise of power <protection from arbitrary arrest and detention>
3
a : based on or determined by individual preference or convenience rather than by necessity or the intrinsic nature of something
As I noted above, there is NO requirement that the government treat every habitat equally, since no two are identical and no two threats are the same. What you are describing is the very definition of being "arbitrary", you dimwitted Yankee fool.
That is why you can go hiking in Yellowstone National Park, but you cannot strip mine there or build a landfill like you can on other federal lands. Now do you get it douchebag? Another of your straw man arguments, you Yankee jackass.
The bald eagle is an endangered species and cannot be hunted at all. But Grey wolves are also an endangered species, yet they are protected in SOME areas and are hunted in others. Even though this is another of your straw man arguments, notice how you distinguished between one area being a preserve and the other not being a preserve, you ignorant Yankee retard. In this case BOTH areas are considered PRESERVES; hence, you once again ignorantly undercut your own fucked-up POV, moron!
Explain why that "picking and choosing" is "arbitrary" and should be prohibited, pseudo-intellect.
ar•bi•trary adjective \ˈär-bə-ˌtrer-ē, -ˌtre-rē\
3
a : based on or determined by individual preference or convenience rather than by necessity or the intrinsic nature of something
When the BLM was approached by Reid's politically connected and moneyed interest group, the BLM conveniently forgot about protecting the habitat for the desert tortoise.
Originally Posted by ExNYer
If you saw the now-expired pictures of the providers he reviewed in New Orleans, the facts would most definitely be in evidence. Originally Posted by ExNYerYou're still wrong, you dimwitted Yankee moron, you are obviously suffering from a psychological condition known as "transference":
Excellent diversity practices for all the different variations of "Yankee" insults!
As I noted above, there is NO requirement that the government treat every habitat equally, since no two are identical and no two threats are the same. What you are describing is the very definition of being "arbitrary", you dimwitted Yankee fool.
That is why you can go hiking in Yellowstone National Park, but you cannot strip mine there or build a landfill like you can on other federal lands. Now do you get it douchebag? Another of your straw man arguments, you Yankee jackass.
The bald eagle is an endangered species and cannot be hunted at all. But Grey wolves are also an endangered species, yet they are protected in SOME areas and are hunted in others. Even though this is another of your straw man arguments, notice how you distinguished between one area being a preserve and the other not being a preserve, you ignorant Yankee retard. In this case BOTH areas are considered PRESERVES; hence, you once again ignorantly undercut your own fucked-up POV, moron!
Explain why that "picking and choosing" is "arbitrary" and should be prohibited, pseudo-intellect.You're still wrong, you dimwitted Yankee moron, you are obviously suffering from a psychological condition known as "transference":
trans•fer•ence noun \tran(t)s-ˈfər-ən(t)s, ˈtran(t)s-(ˌ)\
: the redirection of feelings and desires and especially of those unconsciously retained from childhood toward a new object (as a psychoanalyst conducting therapy)
That wasn't your mama's nipple you were sucking on, you moronic Yankee buffoon. Originally Posted by I B Hankering