The Trumpster's deportations

lustylad's Avatar
Homan and Miller... know they're behind bigly to hit the stated goal... They have to deport a million in year 1 to keep the promise. Originally Posted by HDGristle
Is that all you got? You admitted they're on track to set a new ICE single-year record for deportations - even if they fall short of the "stated goal".

Sorry if you don't want to talk about it, but for each illegal picked up by ICE, we're seeing between five and ten of them self-deport.

In other words, we're making amazing progress toward the broader goal of reducing the number of "undocumented immigrants" here in the US. And you've been reduced to whining about the mix.
Supreme Court 6-3 rules IN FAVOR of President Trump deporting illegal aliens to "third countries" like Sudan.
HDGristle's Avatar
Unconvincing drivel Lusty. Hitting the record means nothing when the goal is over 2x the record

And when Homan isn't including those self-deportations in his stats he's not willing to award himself tbe participating trophy you're chomping at tbe bit to give him.

You do realize they had to create illegals to help juice the numbers, yes? Further proof Trump has to come up with all manners of novel approaches to hit those Obama numbers. You still haven't touched on why, tho.
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
Unconvincing drivel Lusty. Hitting the record means nothing when the goal is over 2x the record

And when Homan isn't including those self-deportations in his stats he's not willing to award himself tbe participating trophy you're chomping at tbe bit to give him.

You do realize they had to create illegals to help juice the numbers, yes? Further proof Trump has to come up with all manners of novel approaches to hit those Obama numbers. You still haven't touched on why, tho. Originally Posted by HDGristle



create illegals? nonsense.
txdot-guy's Avatar
Being deported to a third country rather than the one you came from. It may be legal but it is a really shitty thing to do.
lustylad's Avatar
create illegals? nonsense. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
Gotta love how Gristle always starts off with "You do realize..."

It's a sure tip-off that nonsense will follow.
lustylad's Avatar
Being deported to a third country rather than the one you came from. It may be legal but it is a really shitty thing to do. Originally Posted by txdot-guy
Easy fix, txdot. Just tell the Immigration Court you would rather return to your home country.
Being deported to a third country rather than the one you came from. It may be legal but it is a really shitty thing to do. Originally Posted by txdot-guy
.... That's why it's better to SELF-DEPORT.

Or better yet - DON'T come to America illegally
in the first place.

#### Salty
HDGristle's Avatar
https://www.the-independent.com/news...-b2775393.html

This is where he has to run up the score, because he can't seem to find the legit criminals.

And he doesn't define them like you do either.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trum...-raids-2088654
HDGristle's Avatar
create illegals? nonsense. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...nge-rcna213356

Oh. That's right, you prefer "undocumented"

BWAHAHAHAHA
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...nge-rcna213356

Oh. That's right, you prefer "undocumented"

BWAHAHAHAHA Originally Posted by HDGristle



here's the problem right here ....


Trump, seeking to go down in history as the president who carried out the largest mass deportation in U.S. history, deemed that the Biden administration program that allowed Flo and hundreds of thousands of others to legally enter the U.S was actually illegal. Flo asked not to use her full name because of fear of being targeted for deportation.


as you know, each administration can alter criteria for immigration as they see fit and that includes revoking a prior admin's rules and criteria. Biden intentionally flooded the country with millions who did not or ever will be eligible for asylum.


is that illegal? given more than half never qualified to begin and were allowed in anyway yes it is. you like to talk about due process. you do know that there is no right to a hearing by a judge. an applicant for asylum can be denied by any border agent at a point of entry or when encountered along the border.


Trump is undoing what Biden did and he as every right to do it.
txdot-guy's Avatar
Easy fix, txdot. Just tell the Immigration Court you would rather return to your home country. Originally Posted by lustylad
Somehow I don’t think it works that way when Steven Miller is setting policy.

https://archive.ph/ssO3x
Tricia McLaughlin, a spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security, called the ruling “a victory for the safety and security of the American people.”

“D.H.S. can now execute its lawful authority and remove illegal aliens to a country willing to accept them,” she said in a statement. “Fire up the deportation planes.”


Justice Sotomayor wrote that the supreme court’s majority had endorsed lawlessness.

“The government has made clear in word and deed that it feels itself unconstrained by law, free to deport anyone anywhere without notice or an opportunity to be heard,” she wrote.
HDGristle's Avatar
Somehow I don’t think it works that way when Steven Miller is setting policy. Originally Posted by txdot-guy
That is correct. This is another way Miller is gunning up the works of how things work on purpose.
lustylad's Avatar
... we're making amazing progress toward the broader goal of reducing the number of "undocumented immigrants" here in the US. And you've been reduced to whining about the mix. Originally Posted by lustylad
Unconvincing drivel Lusty... Originally Posted by HDGristle
So the fact that over 1 million illegals are gone from the U.S. since trump took office leaves you unconvinced that his border security policies are succeeding?

Time for you to start moving the goalposts again, Gristle.

Tell us - what will it take to convince you? 3 million? 5 million? 10 million?

HDGristle's Avatar
Not my goalpost. It's the Trump administration goal. 1,000,000 deportations in a year carried out by the government. Talk to Homan and Miller about revising their metrics

You're also mixing up success with border security as success with interior enforcement efforts. He can be very successful at the border and still miss his deportation goals. In fact, right now you could and should be arguing that his numbers reflect him being a victim of his own success at the border. It means he has to focus on interior enforcement to find the growth he needs novel approaches like eliminating TPS. If folks leave timely, that's not a deportations. We can't have you double and triple dipping

You have also habitually missed what happened with the Secure Communities program. It's got some attack vectors that you should be using to argue that Obama poisoned the well for Trump.