Roe to be overturned!!!!

that show is stupid. the premise is absurd. don't watch it or your silly video clip. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

its based on Ursula LeGuin's book.


strange novel.

which is why it's a terrible limit on abortion. way too early as i said for most women to even know they are pregnant and not nearly enough to determine the status of the fetus or any risk to the woman. Texas and any other state trying to use this "standard" are idiots.

part of this debate is when does life begin? obviously it begins at conception. but is that viable life? No. a fetus has virtually no chance whatsoever to survive until 6 months of gestation. even today with the most advanced neonatal care at 3 months premature the odds of survival is 50/50 at best. this is medical fact. that's largely why Roe v Wade was capped at the end of the second trimester. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

I guess i'm one of those idiots.

to recap.

life begins at moment of conception (week 1): yes but its not viable. giving human rights to a bunch of cells is stupid.

life begins at heartbeat (4 - 6 weeks): yes but its not viable; human rights status yes.

life begins at birth (260 days): yes; its viable; human rights yes.

I guess i'm one of those idiots.


to recap.


life begins at moment of conception (week 1): yes but its not viable.

life begins at heartbeat (4 - 6 weeks): yes but its not viable
life begins at birth (260 days): yes; its viable. Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

No. if you understand these real world/medical limitations and constraints that makes you scientifically enlightened

https://www.pampers.com/en-us/pregna...weeks-pregnant

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• Bloated stomach.
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• Light bleeding or spotting.
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• Moodiness.
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• Breast tenderness.
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• Morning sickness.
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• Light-colored discharge.
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• Fatigue.
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How many of you dipshits have birthed a child?

I find the most telling part of this debate has ever been the fact that a bunch of grumpy old men are doing all the raging in here. Not a single woman/provider/single mom/AFFECTED PARTY.

Liberty loving hypocrites? Yep.

How many of you dipshits have birthed a child?

I find the most telling part of this debate has ever been the fact that a bunch of grumpy old men are doing all the raging in here. Not a single woman/provider/single mom/AFFECTED PARTY.

Liberty loving hypocrites? Yep. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

I'd guess most providers would be pro choice. As to grumpy old men in this forum, we're irrelevant. It's the Congressmen, state legislators and judges who count. And yeah, a lot of them are men who aren't ideally placed to pontificate on child bearing and abortion given they don't have uteruses.

Then Liberals have nothing to worry about.


No, I'm not against corporations helping. Either I have to pay more close attention to what I'm writing or you do in your reading. How you could come up with I'd be against corporations or anybody from helping a pregnant women get an abortion baffles me especially considering that you know for a fact I would not ban abortions if given the chance to vote on it but all this is academic to the point of the Constitutional finding that this issue as many others, should be left up to the vote of the people by State. Anybody that would argue against that doesn't understand the Constitution or Federalism. Originally Posted by HedonistForever

Ha! The tables are turned. In a couple of past posts you failed to recognize my sarcasm. Now I'm the guilty one. Only the other way around. I thought your post was dripping with sarcasm, but you really, more-or-less meant what you wrote.

Sometimes I amaze myself at my ability to see things before they happen. If you noticed in one of my previous posts, I suggested that if Roe is overturned and it goes to the States for a vote, a woman in any State that bans abortions will be given money either by the Corporation they work for or a go-fund me kinda deal by all the rich elitists who will contribute to such a fund.


Well knock me down with a feather. Just saw a report about how companies like Levi Strauss, Amazon and even Tesla, now owned by a racist, fascist, Apartheid loving White man, will be offering in some cases, up to $4400, ( don't know how they came up with that number ) to cover travel and medical expenses and will of course get full pay for how ever long it takes to recuperate. I have the feeling recuperation time will end up being much, much longer than it was before this generous package.


So settle down people, it's all good. If you can't move to an abortion loving state, either your job or rich White people with their White guilt and White privilege, will pickup the tab. What a great country we live in. Originally Posted by HedonistForever

This is exactly right. The Qanon right wants 50 different definitions about when life begins, and what penalties are imposed if you don't follow exactly what and when your State mandates. Backward States like Texas will attempt to punish women who leave Texas to get an abortion where it is legal, and allow some Bloke in, say, Rhode Island to sue the baggage handler at DFW Airport, for assisting the Texas Woman in getting an abortion. Originally Posted by Chung Tran

Gee federalism at work... Why do you object to 50 different options? That means 50 different places to choose to move to if you so wish.

There's another alternative... Birth Control!! Which is CHEAP AS FCUK and WIDELY available.

Why is it WRONG to expect people to THINK about their reproductive health before they fcuk? But perfectly acceptable for them to do so AFTER conception?

Each Individual has his own belief about when life begins and should get legal protection. We don't need the State deciding. Originally Posted by Chung Tran

Because some LIbtard lefties are cool with killing the baby at BIRTH... that's why.

Funny how most of the Qanon right on this Board is FOR abortion in some circumstances. But not a God Damn one of them has posted against Abbott and Texas tactics to make abortion unavailable, utilizing methods that make Atilla the Hun look like a Progressive. Originally Posted by Chung Tran

uh-huh... look if a woman can't understand her cycle and when she is capable of getting pregnant, then possibly she should keep her legs closed...

Gee federalism at work... Why do you object to 50 different options? That means 50 different places to choose to move to if you so wish.
Originally Posted by texassapper

Yeah.. Wait to see how your State and others respond, then simply pick up and move at your leisure. Great idea.. NOT

How many of you dipshits have birthed a child?

I find the most telling part of this debate has ever been the fact that a bunch of grumpy old men are doing all the raging in here. Not a single woman/provider/single mom/AFFECTED PARTY.

Liberty loving hypocrites? Yep. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Spot on.

How would they feel if a Website overwhelmingly populated by young women, voiced an opinion that criminal sanctions should be imposed on any old man that got up to pee more than 3 times during the night?

Women are becoming public enemy #1. They can't have control over their own bodies.


Because grumpy old men said so. If the grumpy old men could get pregnant, this would not even be an issue.

Because grumpy old men said so. If the grumpy old men could get pregnant, this would not even be an issue. Originally Posted by VitaMan

Grumpy old men are legion on this Board. I hope to Hell I never become one. Imagine living a long life, and settling on Grumpy Old Man in your final years?

I guess the Grumps don't feel bad about their state. They don't self-identify as Grumpy. In their decaying minds, they think they know more than others, and should be afforded the right to tell you how to live your life.

which is why it's a terrible limit on abortion. way too early as i said for most women to even know they are pregnant and not nearly enough to determine the status of the fetus or any risk to the woman. Texas and any other state trying to use this "standard" are idiots.



part of this debate is when does life begin? obviously it begins at conception. but is that viable life? No. a fetus has virtually no chance whatsoever to survive until 6 months of gestation. even today with the most advanced neonatal care at 3 months premature the odds of survival is 50/50 at best. this is medical fact. that's largely why Roe v Wade was capped at the end of the second trimester. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

We have confirmation - God (one God, Thor) is on the board.

Can we hear from another God?

I say life begins when she says it does.

I guess i'm one of those idiots.

to recap.

life begins at moment of conception (week 1): yes but its not viable. giving human rights to a bunch of cells is stupid.

life begins at heartbeat (4 - 6 weeks): yes but its not viable; human rights status yes.

life begins at birth (260 days): yes; its viable; human rights yes. Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

And another God checks in. Looks like a nerd.

Let's Party...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dbD1UVjr39s

Any other God want to check in?