P411's new policies and pricing changes to enforce said policies... Good, bad, indifferent?

I'm counting, mostly to myself.

I had heard nothing but negativity from clients and providers recently concerning this topics, so it is good to see that they aren't the norm, just the most vocal.

I agree with Spice and the others that followed, p411 for screening and review sites for menus. A lot of people don't seem to want to put much effort into things, though. Originally Posted by Molly Rendon

Many humans are lazy and like to complain. That's why so many reciew sites are so successful. Be it eccie or yelp. It's one congested place where people can voice their complaints.

By the way, I didn't mean that you were personally up in arms, but so many are getting so frustrated about this change. To them I say, rebudget your finances. I found myself in a huge rut after I moved in to my new place. I had to borrow money. I also cut myself off of starbucks until I could catch up. I'm far from perfect with finances, but when you start keeping track of what you spend its amazing, kinda like a puzzle, what you can move around and how you can spend less on certain things to be able to splurge more on others.

Provider Buzz was never owned by P411... Originally Posted by GracePreston

Grace is correct, I never owned Provider Buzz.

A good friend of mine decided she wanted to do something after a very bad experience in NYC, and I offered some P411 resources to build and host the site for her. I also helped out a bit financially, but it was 100% her thing... not mine.

She eventually moved on into a new life (congrats girl!!) and the site was left abandoned.

So that's the story of Provider Buzz, may it rest in peace.

Always,
Gina

PS: Hi Barbi! xo

Starbucks? Jeez... I don't think I've set foot in one of those in 2 or 3 years.

Starbucks? Jeez... I don't think I've set foot in one of those in 2 or 3 years. Originally Posted by GracePreston

We all have vices.

I don't drink alcohol nor do any of that forbidden topic, but I love my coffee and I love my traveling!
I recently rescued two dogs, so the traveling has slowed down to a near halt and I am having fun with my keurig at home.
I'm noticing a little extra cash at the end of each month, too. It's kinda fun!

P411 is simply put the very best thing a hobbyist can secure to promote a fun hobby experience. A must for newbies. All but eliminates screening and there are ladies that will put you at the top of the list if you secure a session using P411. I think it pays for itself in time saved, aggravation, NSNC and the back and forth that some times takes place during screening.

Touring or visiting providers typically make more money. That's why they "tour". Ladies are complaining about $10 increase per "AD" while making $3-$10 per MINUTE? Give me a BREAK! Guess what? The ADS work that's why you place them.

Starbucks? Jeez... I don't think I've set foot in one of those in 2 or 3 years. Originally Posted by GracePreston

WOW that's high volume. Take a break, leave the hotel / motel / no tell room and enjoy a nice Carmel Macchiato. You'll be happy you did!

WOW that's high volume. Take a break, leave the hotel / motel / no tell room and enjoy a nice Carmel Macchiato. You'll be happy you did! Originally Posted by Still Looking

LMAO-- no. Its not spending money on junk. I've never been very good at spending money on myself... plus side, my bills are paid.

P411 is Great For Me...No Complaints

I am sure all of the ladies have encountered the new policies in having to rework pulled down ads and gentlemen have had to deal with the lack of posted menus... Now, come the increases in ad posting rates, "said" to enforce the new guidelines by making the ladies feel the violations in their purses.

............... Do you think the changes will help the site in it's goal to avoid notice and follow the path of Redbook, or is it just a matter of time? Originally Posted by Molly Rendon

Gina went up on the hobbyists a while back as well, but that is the nature of business, kinda like a supply/demand thing. The prices are more than reasonable and the yearly fee is made up on discounts for being a member along with time taken to check references.

P411 based in Canada has different laws than the adult sites in the U.S.

Providers who are charging $200/hr - $300/hr - $400/hr - $500/hr..... up in arms about a <$10 per month increase for optional Visiting Ads. What can you do.... smh

Always,
Gina Originally Posted by GinaXXX

It is ridiculous that providers complain about the price of things, especially how much money they make for the little time put in comparatively speaking. If a provider is smart and sweet, she can get a guy to donate points to her to offset that whopping $10!

If you see four P411 members during your visit, you get the $ back. My issue is not with the increase as everything else is FREE to providers, my issue is with the gents that do not send the 'Okay" requests.
............... Originally Posted by JennaKae

If I had an OK for every provider I requested one from, I would have close to 70 OKs! I was always under the notion that when I set an appointment, show up on time, have the right donation, respect the boundaries of the provider and have fantastic personal hygiene, then I would get an OK from the provider. That is true for the most part, but it turns out that the ones I did not get an OK from, I wrote a review with the slightest negative connotation in it (which is why I started to get OKs before writing a review) or I let her know that I did not have an outstanding time (which is why I am not overly talkative in the sessions).

P411 is Great For Me...No Complaints Originally Posted by Rachel Avery

All in all, P411 is the best, Gina is very responsive when you send her an email and there are many more providers on p411 than Eccie that I would not have had the pleasure to see otherwise.

Whenever anything goes up people always wonder..
With gas. If you only filled your tank once a week, no biggie. If you commute an hour to work, you noticed it.
If you are a touring provider and post a lot of visiting ads over the year, you'll notice it.

I have personally found that sending a "hello" to friends that I have met and letting them know that I'm coming back has worked better than any ad.

By the way, I'm so over this "sex workers make tons of money for nothing." Don't act like you know if you don't know.

I completely agree with the first paragraph. P411 is the most valuable tool out there.

As for the second paragraph, from what I have seen and heard, it has been the clients complaining about the change in Canadian law that caused the loss in the menu. I haven't heard many ladies complain, but the change is a day old.

The very reason for the start of the thread was to get the other side, the potentially positive side, from the negativity that I have heard from clients while they attempt to contact me. It was to try to see a wider view of the combination of the changes as a whole.

I have not heard any ladies complain... yet. They may just be holding their tongues here and voicing it through communication with management on p411.

P411 is simply put the very best thing a hobbyist can secure to promote a fun hobby experience. A must for newbies. All but eliminates screening and there are ladies that will put you at the top of the list if you secure a session using P411. I think it pays for itself in time saved, aggravation, NSNC and the back and forth that some times takes place during screening.

Touring or visiting providers typically make more money. That's why they "tour". Ladies are complaining about $10 increase per "AD" while making $3-$10 per MINUTE? Give me a BREAK! Guess what? The ADS work that's why you place them. Originally Posted by Still Looking

LMAO-- no. Its not spending money on junk. I've never been very good at spending money on myself... plus side, my bills are paid. Originally Posted by GracePreston

Well if you don't want to treat yourself perhaps one of your regulars will deliver?

Well if you don't want to treat yourself perhaps one of your regulars will deliver? Originally Posted by Still Looking

Lol-- I'm on a mission to slim down. Right now I'm all about water.

I completely agree with the first paragraph. P411 is the most valuable tool out there.

As for the second paragraph, from what I have seen and heard, it has been the clients complaining about the change in Canadian law that caused the loss in the menu. I haven't heard many ladies complain, but the change is a day old.

The very reason for the start of the thread was to get the other side, the potentially positive side, from the negativity that I have heard from clients while they attempt to contact me. It was to try to see a wider view of the combination of the changes as a whole.

I have not heard any ladies complain... yet. They may just be holding their tongues here and voicing it through communication with management on p411. Originally Posted by Molly Rendon

Referencing touring or visiting providers placing ADS.... it sure wears on a full time Man Whore when providers place these "FISHING ADS" as Gina stated. I can't help but wondering if Hobbyists booked with multiple providers and simply just decided which one to go see and cancel the rest by post or pm simply stating "oh I'm sorry I'll have to reschedule" or "I won'' be able to make it this time" how providers might feel about that? S anything P411 does to minimalize the placement of these "fishing Ads" would be greatly appreciated at least from this hobbyist prospective!

Referencing touring or visiting providers placing ADS.... it sure wears on a full time Man Whore when providers place these "FISHING ADS" as Gina stated. I can't help but wondering if Hobbyists booked with multiple providers and simply just decided which one to go see and cancel the rest by post or pm simply stating "oh I'm sorry I'll have to reschedule" or "I won'' be able to make it this time" how providers might feel about that? S anything P411 does to minimalize the placement of these "fishing Ads" would be greatly appreciated at least from this hobbyist prospective!
Originally Posted by Still Looking

That seems a very narrow view of life. In your mind should a lady lay out multiple hundreds to fly somewhere and HOPE there will be a receptive client base? It seems to be foolish not to post such inquiries.