i don't have to prove it. there is law that prevents this. any lawyer? sweetpea, the entire Supreme Court are lawyers. every one liberal or conservative would strike down "free speech" in this clear case of intimidation.Did you see the peaceful protest?
there are reasons why laws exist against such intimidation. you don't want Roe v Wade overturned so you condone this type of activity. free speech has limits. just ask the justices, Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
As I asked. Is it really a law if nobody bothers to enforce it? Originally Posted by Jackie SBe like making a law against farting.
Once again.. SCOTUS themselves opened this door when they ruled that it was within 1A to protest at the homes of abortion clinic employees. Not the clinics themselves-- the homes of employees.Well if that's true that's a big mistake they made. The direction this Society is headed with emotions high with political issues chaos is going to eventually get worse and it's going to get real nasty. Forget about peaceful Protest they don't exist anymore and the rule of law is a thing of the past.
Rather ironic if you think about it.... Originally Posted by Grace Preston
... Once again - The LAW IS - you cannot protest at the home of a Federal Judge. ... period... full stop.
You CAN protest most anywhere else.
### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again
Depends. While it is not technically illegal to protest in front of a judges house-- it IS illegal if you are protesting to attempt to interfere with a ruling or to try to persuade a change to a ruling.Same thing with the use of deadly force. You don't have to prove you were in danger only that you THOUGHT you were in danger.
The trick is proving the intent. Originally Posted by Grace Preston
Same thing with the use of deadly force. You don't have to prove you were in danger only that you THOUGHT you were in danger. Originally Posted by the_real_BarleycornExtreme violence to protesters is coming.They aren't all that peaceful and many people have had enough of it. I suspect we haven't seen nothing yet.
I don't disagree.
Now prove it.
That's the problem. Any lawyer worth their salt would get it tossed out of court-- then likely counter-sue for violating their clients 1A rights.
I've seen a few signs that could result in a charge that would actually stick-- but most are too benign to be slam dunks in court-- and when dealing with an issue that can result in counter suits-- most municipalities are going to err on the side of caution. Originally Posted by Grace Preston
Did you see the peaceful protest?
Mostly a bunch of women!
You scared/ intimidated by a few ladies exercising the right to peacefully protest? Originally Posted by WTF
I'm open to anybody putting on their defense atty. hat and give us an argument that says they aren't intending to intimidate, aren't intending to reverse what they think these judges are "thinking about doing".
I can't think of a single "convincing" thing a defense attorney could say to convince me these people aren't there to intimidate since the judges are still considering their decision. If the case was already decided, the protesters could then say they are protesting a decision already made so no intimidation to change their mind is in play.
To suggest this is merely an "information" protest is silly beyond belief. Are they informing the public that this decision will not end abortion? If not and they are saying that this decision will end abortion, that is disinformation and we all know that must be stopped at all cost, right?
And how silly to suggest that these protesters are merely attempting to "inform" the justices with information they may not be aware of.
Abortion providers are not judges. Judges are a legally protected class all their own. But of course this DOJ wants to investigate parents trying to intimidate school boards, not a protected class that I'm aware of but doesn't want to investigate people actually violating a law that specifically protects judges.
Hell, I could argue this in court and win. Originally Posted by HedonistForever
i wouldn't be you twit the point is it is attempting to influence these justices which is prohibited by law for their role in the legal system. same applies to jurors. it's one of the reasons in some high profile cases the jurors are sequestered in hotels to keep people from harassing them. or bribing them to influence a verdict.I think even Rittenhouse is sorry for his actions. That was an unfortunate situtation.
recall that happened in the rittenhouse case where msnbc tried to follow the jury to their hotel and got caught for it. the judge banned msnbc from being in the court during the trial. the reporter and news crew were lucky that's all that happened to them.
so much for free speech and the "rights" of the press. did ya think that was right? probably not because you're one of the goobers in this forum who is convinced rittenhouse is a "murderer" aren't ya?
Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
I'm open to anybody putting on their defense atty. hat and give us an argument that says they aren't intending to intimidate, aren't intending to reverse what they think these judges are "thinking about doing".
I can't think of a single "convincing" thing a defense attorney could say to convince me these people aren't there to intimidate since the judges are still considering their decision. If the case was already decided, the protesters could then say they are protesting a decision already made so no intimidation to change their mind is in play.
To suggest this is merely an "information" protest is silly beyond belief. Are they informing the public that this decision will not end abortion? If not and they are saying that this decision will end abortion, that is disinformation and we all know that must be stopped at all cost, right?
And how silly to suggest that these protesters are merely attempting to "inform" the justices with information they may not be aware of.
Abortion providers are not judges. Judges are a legally protected class all their own. But of course this DOJ wants to investigate parents trying to intimidate school boards, not a protected class that I'm aware of but doesn't want to investigate people actually violating a law that specifically protects judges.
Hell, I could argue this in court and win. Originally Posted by HedonistForever
I think even Rittenhouse is sorry for his actions. That was an unfortunate situtation.
do you think it was ok for Biden and press to immediately call rittenhouse a racist white supremacist and the media falsely claimed the victims were black? then never correcting their reporting nor apologizing
So you think it ok for Justices to be able to dine with influential members of special intrest groups but not ok for peaceful protesters outside their residence?
if people were protesting outside your house you'd be screaming for the cops to "sweep the street".
If SC Justices do not have a legal obligation to recuse themselves from undue influence ( and they do not) I sure as fuck think peaceful protests outside their homes is fine
you ignore the fact that as justices they are not average citizens. there is law against these protests. it affects the ability of the legal system to function without undue influence.
This is akin to Judges ruling that open carry is Constitutional but turning around and not allowing guns in the Courth6....its hypocrisy.
Now if the protesters break into the Court Chambers during deliberations O say they should be shot on sight. Just like that silly ass girl was on January 6th....the corridor should have been littered with dead protestors.
Any other erroneous assumptions? Originally Posted by WTF