You didn't say anything intelligent enough to refute.We all knew you would say something like that.
Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
In other words, you can't.
I admit I was wrong. I really thought part of it was you didn't want to.
Oh, Indulge, Obama isn't inspiring the young people anymore. I guess they got tired of being lied to.You didn't read the whole article, did you?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_859685.html
Sorry to burst your bubble with facts. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
LOL Munch! Obama made a very clear statement. You claim he didn't mean what he said. It's a stupid position. He obviously thinks in those areas, he is the fourth greatest president. How do you refute something so obviously wrong. Go back and read the quotes, and find out how stupid you are.Steve, you know, I would put our legislative and foreign policy accomplishments in our first two years against any president -- with the possible exceptions of Johnson, F.D.R., and Lincoln -- just in terms of what we've gotten done in modern history." Obama.
He is easily the 44th best President overall. But don't worry, Romney will give him competition for the 45th spot after the next election.
Happy Holidays! Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
I think you're comparing apples to oranges. It seems as though you're saying that if Lincoln could help free the slaves, then Obama's a bum because he hasn't done the same thing. You have to look closely at the state of affairs, economy, Senate and House demographic at the time of Obama's presidency. He is this nation's leader, but separation of powers is reminding us that even the President's powers are limited to what Congress approves.He compared himself to Lincoln, and as COG pointed out Barrack Obama is not descended from slaves.
Admittedly, Obama does not walk on water; however, the fact that this country is lead by a man with the blood of a slave cannot be denied or seen as anything less than epic (no other President can conclusively say that). Originally Posted by iINDULGE
Obama has single-handedly re-established the United States standing in the world. Originally Posted by iINDULGEWorld leaders, British, French, Israeli, Venezuelan, etc., either despise him or laugh at him.
Obama's administration put an end to America's real life Boogey man, Osama Bin Laden. Originally Posted by iINDULGEYou'll notice that neither you nor Obama bothered to mention Truman who brought an end to WWII - Hitler and Tojo!
He's created a rapid response fund for emerging democracies, pressured Israel to end the Gaza blockade, reached a compromise with Switzerland to bolster tax information exchange (of extreme importance). Originally Posted by iINDULGEThat you consider these measures achievements speaks volumes.
Also, no President since Kennedy has inspired more Americans under 30, whether voting for or against him, to partake in the political process. Job loss exploded under the Bush administration and had actually improved under Obama. Originally Posted by iINDULGEThe numbers regarding unemployment do not support your contention that Obama has improved anything.
He appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court. He put an end to the Defense of Marriage Act, Originally Posted by iINDULGEA lesbian liberal! That's an achievement? And what about Supreme Court Justice Benjamin Cardozo? Doesn't his Portuguese heritage qualify him as an Hispanic?
He put an end to the Defense of Marriage Act, which was clearly created for the federal discrimination of homosexuals. Originally Posted by iINDULGEYou praise the arbitrary and extralegal decision not to enforce the laws? That's not a Constitutional prerogative given to any president.
He enacted the largest reform of student financial aid in the last 50 years. Originally Posted by iINDULGEObama increased taxpayer liability.
Last, but not least, he will end the debacle that has been the war in Iraq before his administration ceases. Originally Posted by iINDULGEOnce again, how is that "better" than Truman bringing an end to WWII? Or Eisenhower ending Korea? Or Nixon ending Vietnam?
I'm not saying Obama is the second coming, but let's at least acknowledge that he is taken us in the right direction and that you cannot make a fair comparison until his presidency has ended. Originally Posted by iINDULGEObama the narcissist is making the comparisons.
Side note, did you really mention Presidents Chester Arthur, Calvin Coolidge, and Warren Harding?Yeah! Obama really is at the bottom of the barrel, since those men can match and surpass anything Obama claims he has done.Originally Posted by iINDULGE
For the purposes of this thread, he specifically said in the legislative and foreign policy areas. Many posters take that as an overall rating when it only covers a portion of the job. Originally Posted by Munchmasterman
1."legislative" = implementation of domestic policiesnice, they removed his t-shirt, but not his outfit which I think would be highly embarrassing.
2. "foreign policy" = implementation of foreign policies
3. .. "Commander in Chief" .... (see #2, above).
Other than concerts at the White House, junkets to his "homeland" and buying sprees for the "first lady" ... toning up his golf game and practicing jump shots ...
what else is there? Community organizing?
Apparently there is growing support for him in law enforcement:
Police Do Care
It is irritating when people come down on police officers, saying that they don't care about or respect others. Here is a story that clearly shows not all cops are in that way.
The police department in the small hill country town of Fredericksburg , Texas, reported finding a man's body recently in the early evening in the Pedernales River near the state highway-87 bridge. The dead man's name would not be released pending notification to his family.
The man apparently drowned due to excessive beer consumption while visiting "someone" in Kerrville. He was wearing black fishnet stockings, 4 inch spiked heels, a red garter belt, a pink G-string, purple lipstick, dazzle dust on his eyelids, 1/2 inch false eyelashes and an Obama T-shirt.
The police removed the Obama T-shirt to spare his family any unnecessary embarrassment.
See there, some police do care.
Originally Posted by LexusLover
Obama said "against any presidency" !!!!You are correct. Perhaps the Anointed One “forgot” about what Washington, John Adams, Jefferson, Madison and Monroe accomplished.
For those who don't know American history that would be Washington to Bush 42. Originally Posted by Whirlaway
He is easily the 44th best President overall Originally Posted by CuteOldGuyWhat I'm saying is that as of late, more Americans are either in love or just hate the President and are basing these emotions on nothing more than partisanship.
President Chester Arthur backed the Pendleton Civil Service Act which ended the inefficient and corrupt practices associated with Jackson’s ‘spoils system’.Huzzah.....excellent post.
President Theodore Roosevelt’s achievements: Nobel Peace Prize for actually negotiating peace in Asia (unlike an obnoxious, modern recipient). Known as the “Trust Buster”, TR worked with the labor movement to achieve better working conditions and higher wages. Issued the Roosevelt Corollary to the Monroe Doctrine ensuring European nations and colonialism were kept a bay in the Western hemisphere. Initiated construction on the Panama Canal. Initiated major advances in U.S. conservation policy.
President Harding achieved a major foreign policy coup by calling the Washington Conference and initiating arms limitation agreements that keep world peace throughout the 1920s. Harding reconstituted American civil liberties by repudiating the Espionage Act of 1917 employed Wilson to unconstitutionally imprison political foes, e.g. Debs and others: whom Harding released from prison. He also averted a post war recession and presided over a ‘roaring’ domestic economy.
President Coolidge also presided over a roaring domestic economy.
President Truman ended WWII. That’s not insignificant in anybody’s book. He helped initiate and backed the war crimes proceedings at Nuremberg and in Tokyo. Initiated the Marshall Plan in Europe. Advanced the Truman Doctrine. The Berlin Airlift. He initiated civil rights legislation and integrated the U.S. military. Helped create the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO). Defended S. Korea against invasion.
President Eisenhower: Truce in Korea (still holding). Interstate Highway System. Civil Rights Act of 1957. Established NASA. Mobilized the National Guard to protect the Little Rock Nine.
These men far exceeded Obama's accomplishments in both the foreign and the domestic arena.
Originally Posted by I B Hankering