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What is the percentage of people who own legal firearms who use them to commit crimes, when compared to the number of legal gun owners in toto? Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
That's irrelevant.
Stand alone statistics are meaningless. There needs to be a comparison. How many gun murders are committed by legal gun owners? How many legal gun owners are there? 100 people die per day due to gunfire. Ok. Let's say that's true. That's two per state. Ok. How many were killed, not in self defense, by legal gun owners? If relatively few of the killings are caused by legal gun owners, then legal gun owners aren't the problem. If lawful gun owners are not the problem, leave them alone. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
You are well and truly stupid. Legal gun owners? Sandy Hook. Legal gun owner. This Oregon turd, legal gun owner. What the fuck are you even talking about?
To use the term of one of our more infamous contributors on this forum, you deflect very well. Simple question asked and you are obviously too simple to answer. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX
That's Simple Jack. He's too busy watching his 'head movies' that make his eyes water.
That's Simple Jack. He's too busy watching his 'head movies' that make his eyes water. Originally Posted by WombRaider
As opposed to you watching gay porn that makes your eyes water AND you drool heavily from your cum guzzling mouth !
As opposed to you watching gay porn that makes your eyes water AND you drool heavily from your cum guzzling mouth ! Originally Posted by Rey Lengua
There you go, projecting your gay shit onto me again, like you projectile shoot that semen into dudes' mouths down at talleywackers.
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You are well and truly stupid. Legal gun owners? Sandy Hook. Legal gun owner. This Oregon turd, legal gun owner. What the fuck are you even talking about? Originally Posted by WombRaider
Idiot. Sandy Hook was not a legal gun owner. His mother was. And yes, legal gun owners commit crimes. But what percentage of them? It is damn relevant.


I'm not opposed to gun laws. I'm opposed to knee jerk gun laws based on emotion rather than reason. Just yesterday, or the day before, an 11 year old boy asked an 8 year old girl if he could pet her new puppy. She said no. He went in his house, and took a shotgun, legally purchased by his father, from an UNLOCKED gun safe, went outside and shot and killed her. In my opinion, the kid's father should be indicted for conspiracy to commit to murder. People who own guns have the duty to make sure they don't fall into the wrong hands. If a legal gun owner is careless with his/her gun, they should be charged with the same crime as the person who steals, or otherwise comes into possession of that gun commits. If I were a judge, I'd lock that 11 year old's father up for life, and put the kid in a decent mental institution. Fucking idiot. Leaving a gun safe unlocked with kids around.


I would also support minimum sentences for crimes committed with a gun. I'd go with 10 years. No plea bargaining. I'd add the sentence for the crime committed on top of that, and no concurrent sentences. Self defense or defense of others would be the only exceptions.


I'd support a Constitutional Amendment authorizing state registration of firearms with a provision that no person's gun could be confiscated without due process of law. Anyone caught with an unregistered gun - 10 years in prison.


This would not infringe on anyone's right to own whatever gun they want. They would just have to be responsible. That is not too much to ask.


I'm not going to punish innocent, responsible people for what a handful of crazies do.
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You are well and truly stupid. Legal gun owners? Sandy Hook. Legal gun owner. This Oregon turd, legal gun owner. What the fuck are you even talking about? Originally Posted by WombRaider

What they did was most certainly illegal wouldn't you say? So now, if you can, try to separate what legal gun owners do in a legal manner as opposed to what criminals do.

I watched a democrat today blame Congress for not passing any gun control laws because their inaction is causing people to kill others.....yes, I know. It's very stupid but it was a democrat. Anyway, Obama had a completely pliable Congress for two years and didn't pass one single gun control law or even try. I think that the prospect of the president going on TV and invoking your name is probably a bigger draw to commit murder than Congress doing nothing. So based on the logic of democrats....Obama is responsible. Not me saying that but democrats.

While we're on the topic, what do all these shooters have in common? It's not the guns. They've used handguns, revolvers, and semi automatics. They've used shotguns and they've used rifles. So what else is there? They are all crazy and/or leftists almost universally. Maybe we need some laws preventing the insane and leftists from having guns. That would take care of the Black Panthers and the Nation of Islam.
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Idiot. Sandy Hook was not a legal gun owner. His mother was. And yes, legal gun owners commit crimes. But what percentage of them? It is damn relevant.


I'm not opposed to gun laws. I'm opposed to knee jerk gun laws based on emotion rather than reason. Just yesterday, or the day before, an 11 year old boy asked an 8 year old girl if he could pet her new puppy. She said no. He went in his house, and took a shotgun, legally purchased by his father, from an UNLOCKED gun safe, went outside and shot and killed her. In my opinion, the kid's father should be indicted for conspiracy to commit to murder. People who own guns have the duty to make sure they don't fall into the wrong hands. If a legal gun owner is careless with his/her gun, they should be charged with the same crime as the person who steals, or otherwise comes into possession of that gun commits. If I were a judge, I'd lock that 11 year old's father up for life, and put the kid in a decent mental institution. Fucking idiot. Leaving a gun safe unlocked with kids around.


I would also support minimum sentences for crimes committed with a gun. I'd go with 10 years. No plea bargaining. I'd add the sentence for the crime committed on top of that, and no concurrent sentences. Self defense or defense of others would be the only exceptions.


I'd support a Constitutional Amendment authorizing state registration of firearms with a provision that no person's gun could be confiscated without due process of law. Anyone caught with an unregistered gun - 10 years in prison.


This would not infringe on anyone's right to own whatever gun they want. They would just have to be responsible. That is not too much to ask.


I'm not going to punish innocent, responsible people for what a handful of crazies do. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
There is something in jurisprudence called a reasonable responce. You take a special case but lets go back to Sandy Hook. The guns were locked up and the maniac broke into the safe or had the key without the knowledge of his mother (as far as we know). What she did was reasonable. If she had survived, would you prosecute her as well?

I don't believe in mandatory registration. Voluntary if you want to safe guard your weapons if they are stolen but not mandatory. It's kind of like asking permission for a right. If you have to ask permission it is no longer a right but a privilege. No to registration and the possibility that someday some politician may not confiscate your weapons but outs you to the world which has happened many times. Plus, you have over 300 million weapons now that are not registered. What do you do with them? The way I see it is that if you give someone ten years for an unregistered gun then you ARE punishing innocent people. You shouldn't make laws that people don't want to obey under normal circumstances.
There is something in jurisprudence called a reasonable responce. You take a special case but lets go back to Sandy Hook. The guns were locked up and the maniac broke into the safe or had the key without the knowledge of his mother (as far as we know). What she did was reasonable. If she had survived, would you prosecute her as well?

I don't believe in mandatory registration. Voluntary if you want to safe guard your weapons if they are stolen but not mandatory. It's kind of like asking permission for a right. If you have to ask permission it is no longer a right but a privilege. No to registration and the possibility that someday some politician may not confiscate your weapons but outs you to the world which has happened many times. Plus, you have over 300 million weapons now that are not registered. What do you do with them? The way I see it is that if you give someone ten years for an unregistered gun then you ARE punishing innocent people. You shouldn't make laws that people don't want to obey under normal circumstances. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
Bottom like is you have two mothers with mentally unstable children buying guns and teaching them how to shoot. Find any flaw in that judy? Maybe they should have taken them bowling.
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Actually if you consider murders by population chi town is way down the list judy. Originally Posted by i'va biggen
Report: 60 murders makes last month deadliest September in Chicago since 2002

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-6...go-since-2002/

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Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

and .. your point was exactly .what, EVA? oh i meant ..

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As opposed to you watching gay porn that makes your eyes water AND you drool heavily from your cum guzzling mouth ! Originally Posted by Rey Lengua

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and .. your point was exactly .what, EVA? oh i meant ..

[/IMG] Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
Only point you have whackoff is the point on your tinfoil hat. Or is that a KKK robe?
Only point you have whackoff is the point on your tinfoil hat. Or is that a KKK robe? Originally Posted by i'va biggen
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... Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

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. Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB
Guess you were unable to figure it out shit for brains.