Don't you people know when you're being trolled? If someone ask for advice then says he's not changing, you might just be trolled. Don't feed the troll. He will just counter with a contrary response.
Originally Posted by pink taco
considered it already. after his classic post to a disabled OP bumping a long dead thread.
suppose he could have been searching verification topics but still. seems paying attention to actual info is another story.
Good sir, I read everything you wrote quietly and with humor until THESE fighting words. Mead is *NOT* Honey wine. Wine is a fermented grape drink. Flavoring it with honey and herbs makes it honey wine.
Mead - think of Trojniak. Honey that been based with water only insofar as much as is required to allow yeast to ferment. While meads vary by region, bee pollination, and honey mixture, this self-evident truth remains:
While honey-wine and mead may be interchangeable terms for the unwashed masses who use wiki as an academic reference source, I encourage you to step into the wider internet.
Try googling What is mead?
Or try What is Mead made from?
Honey, water, and yeast. The nasty honey-wine swill that you suckle upon has been getting passed off as mead much like Budweiser and Coors light are passed off as beer. I suppose that if you bend the definition of "mead" to suite your taste, then sure - you've got mead.
If you want to try the real thing sometime though...here's a handy article about the best meads in the world, interestingly none of which have been diluted with wine.
Originally Posted by TravelingGentleman
it's ok. we know now, you're a wine snob trying to go by Euro definitions while living in the U.S.A. yup. it's ok. lots of people try that.
again. you are going by snob definitions. your knowledge speaks for itself. do you make mead? have you made mead? how much? some of us have bottles of it. some of us know other award winning mead makers.
what you speak of is a flavoring with honey similar to how many spirits are flavored with maple. that for the most part sucks and they use the term losely with mead to try and sucker the buyers. so I do agree with your remarks in this one aspect. the makers are trying to pass it off as mead. do I suckle on it? uh, no. and technically you wine snob, you can bend the definition of wine if you aren't trying to go by the Euro definition. when you actually ferment with honey or honey+other fruits it is still a mead. again a melomel. maybe you google that. you probably haven't even tasted one. by the way, I actually step into the real world when it comes to mead. have you ever even been to a mead event?
next -
not from wiki -
What is wine?
Wine is...
In very general terms,
wine is an alcoholic drink made by fermenting the juice of fruits or berries. The official European Union definition is more specific: 'The product obtained from the total or partial alcoholic fermentation of fresh grapes, whether or not crushed, or of grape must'.
This official definition distinguishes 'proper' wine from wine made from kits, or the once-popular 'British' wine, made from grape juice concentrate.
and from
http://www.winetrail.com/whatiswine.html
WHAT IS WINE?
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Wine is fermented grape juice. That's the standard answer.
Actually, wine can be made from all sorts of common and not so common foods. Things like fruits, herbs and flowers. Most wine, though, is made from grapes. And no matter what the wine is made from, there must befermentation, that is, thatsugar be transformed into alcohol. If the amount of alcohol is relatively low, the result is wine. If it is high, the result is a"distilled liquor," something like gin or vodka. Or perhaps the ever popular 151 rum ("flammable, use with caution").
us "unwashed masses" can look this up all day and post dozens of links if not more. which I'm sure a wine snob could post his own dozens of links to support is Euro Union definition. carry on.