Did Jorge Ramos Take The Oath of Citizenship?

He became a US citizen in 2008.

But he has made a point of saying that he retains his Mexican Citizenship and votes in The US and Mexico.

Here is the Oath.

http://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/...states-america

Anybody see a conflict here?

Or is that Oath just a formality that has no enforceable meaning? Originally Posted by Jackie S

The United States apparently allows dual citizenship and has no laws prohibiting voting in both countries where a person is a legal citizen. Nor are there any laws that expressly authorize the practice.

So...no. I don't see a conflict but I'll agree that it does seem an odd practice in light of the language of the oath. It would be my expectation that if you become a citizen of the United States that you would be legally prohibited from voting in another country's elections.

Now, the real underlying question that your post raises: why are you questioning the loyalty of Mr. Ramos? Because he had the temerity to do his job as a journalist by trying to force Trumpenstein to provide some specific answers regarding how he intends to implement his stated future policies on immigration? Why is that wrong?

As I have pointed out in other posts (without refutation, btw) the policies Trump espouses are practical impossibilities. You can't round up 11,500,000 men, women and children and deport them. It's not possible. And, why on earth would you want to? Can you just imagine the scenes? Federal law enforcement officers entering neighborhoods, schools, hospitals, churches, etc., and rounding up children, the elderly, fathers, mothers....taking them to camps or detention facilities?

Is that what the United States of America stands for these days?

Trump should be held to task and it's the job of the press to do it. Attacking Ramos for doing his job by questioning his loyalty to the country isn't right.

The customary protocol is to highlight your unauthorized changes. Originally Posted by DSK

Are you really arguing over the proper way to be an infantile jackass? Why not just click the RTM button? You know where that button is, right? Maybe you've used it before? LMAO!

Why should anybody believe what you say, anyway, JL? You are (altogether now) the biggest liar, cheater and welsher on ECCIE.

You havent earned the credibility to correct anybody on anything.

Fucking liar.

The United States apparently allows dual citizenship and has no laws prohibiting voting in both countries where a person is a legal citizen. Nor are there any laws that expressly authorize the practice.

So...no. I don't see a conflict but I'll agree that it does seem an odd practice in light of the language of the oath. It would be my expectation that if you become a citizen of the United States that you would be legally prohibited from voting in another country's elections.

Now, the real underlying question that your post raises: why are you questioning the loyalty of Mr. Ramos? Because he had the temerity to do his job as a journalist by trying to force Trumpenstein to provide some specific answers regarding how he intends to implement his stated future policies on immigration? Why is that wrong?

As I have pointed out in other posts (without refutation, btw) the policies Trump espouses are practical impossibilities. You can't round up 11,500,000 men, women and children and deport them. It's not possible. And, why on earth would you want to? Can you just imagine the scenes? Federal law enforcement officers entering neighborhoods, schools, hospitals, churches, etc., and rounding up children, the elderly, fathers, mothers....taking them to camps or detention facilities?

Is that what the United States of America stands for these days?

Trump should be held to task and it's the job of the press to do it. Attacking Ramos for doing his job by questioning his loyalty to the country isn't right. Originally Posted by timpage

Have to agree. Ramos simply demanded an answer from Trump as to specifics. Too often the press coddles politicians and here was one demanding an answer and he is being vilified for it. I don't get it.

Have to agree. Ramos simply demanded an answer from Trump as to specifics. Too often the press coddles politicians and here was one demanding an answer and he is being vilified for it. I don't get it. Originally Posted by WombRaider

Not to mention the fact that every Hispanic has the right to be pissed off at Trumpenstein for his insulting, demeaning and racist remarks about Hispanics. Trump is an arrogant bullying asshole. That smug look on his face as he directed his meathead security to physically remove that reporter from the press conference was truly repugnant.

Remember this? Fuck Trump.

Not to mention the fact that every Hispanic has the right to be pissed off at Trumpenstein for his insulting, demeaning and racist remarks about Hispanics. Trump is an arrogant bullying asshole. That smug look on his face as he directed his meathead security to physically remove that reporter from the press conference was truly repugnant. Originally Posted by timpage

Just exactly what are you implying with the nickname "Trumpenstein"p>

Additionally, where did Mr. Trump use a slur about Mexicans? In addressing the behavior of the Mexican government not sending their best people, where is he wrong? DO they send their best people? Did he say all of them are rapists?

Just exactly what are you implying with the nickname "Trumpenstein"p>

Additionally, where did Mr. Trump use a slur about Mexicans? In addressing the behavior of the Mexican government not sending their best people, where is he wrong? DO they send their best people? Did he say all of them are rapists? Originally Posted by DSK

You're an idiot. You know what he said and if you don't understand that the folks who he directed those comments to believe the comments were racial in nature, then, I repeat: you are an idiot. Additionally, as I have pointed out to your dumb ass before: the Mexican government doesn't "send" anybody here. They don't "send" their "best" people or their rapists, they don't "send" anybody. Fucking moron.

You're offended and getting ready to start shrieking about anti-Semitism just because I added "Stein" to Trumps name....but Hispanics aren't supposed to be offended when Trump essentially calls them all criminals and rapists? I rest my case as to the evidence of your stupidity.

BTW, the reference is to Frankenstein, nothing Jewish....Jew Lawyer.

The United States apparently allows dual citizenship and has no laws prohibiting voting in both countries where a person is a legal citizen. Nor are there any laws that expressly authorize the practice.

So...no. I don't see a conflict but I'll agree that it does seem an odd practice in light of the language of the oath. It would be my expectation that if you become a citizen of the United States that you would be legally prohibited from voting in another country's elections.

Now, the real underlying question that your post raises: why are you questioning the loyalty of Mr. Ramos? Because he had the temerity to do his job as a journalist by trying to force Trumpenstein to provide some specific answers regarding how he intends to implement his stated future policies on immigration? Why is that wrong?

As I have pointed out in other posts (without refutation, btw) the policies Trump espouses are practical impossibilities. You can't round up 11,500,000 men, women and children and deport them. It's not possible. And, why on earth would you want to? Can you just imagine the scenes? Federal law enforcement officers entering neighborhoods, schools, hospitals, churches, etc., and rounding up children, the elderly, fathers, mothers....taking them to camps or detention facilities?

Is that what the United States of America stands for these days?

Trump should be held to task and it's the job of the press to do it. Attacking Ramos for doing his job by questioning his loyalty to the country isn't right. Originally Posted by timpage

Perfectly stated.

Have to agree. Ramos simply demanded an answer from Trump as to specifics. Too often the press coddles politicians and here was one demanding an answer and he is being vilified for it. I don't get it. Originally Posted by WombRaider

Trump answered him. He engaged him longer than any other questioner. He just needed to wait his turn. That's racist? I don't support Trump, but he was more than fair with Ramos.

The United States apparently allows dual citizenship and has no laws prohibiting voting in both countries where a person is a legal citizen. Nor are there any laws that expressly authorize the practice.

So...no. I don't see a conflict but I'll agree that it does seem an odd practice in light of the language of the oath. It would be my expectation that if you become a citizen of the United States that you would be legally prohibited from voting in another country's elections.

Now, the real underlying question that your post raises: why are you questioning the loyalty of Mr. Ramos? Because he had the temerity to do his job as a journalist by trying to force Trumpenstein to provide some specific answers regarding how he intends to implement his stated future policies on immigration? Why is that wrong?

As I have pointed out in other posts (without refutation, btw) the policies Trump espouses are practical impossibilities. You can't round up 11,500,000 men, women and children and deport them. It's not possible. And, why on earth would you want to? Can you just imagine the scenes? Federal law enforcement officers entering neighborhoods, schools, hospitals, churches, etc., and rounding up children, the elderly, fathers, mothers....taking them to camps or detention facilities?

Is that what the United States of America stands for these days?

Trump should be held to task and it's the job of the press to do it. Attacking Ramos for doing his job by questioning his loyalty to the country isn't right. Originally Posted by timpage

If you look at the video then you know that it was not a journalistic effort on the part of Ramos. He was working as an activist trying to make a statement about illegal immigration. There was no question. No "how", "when", "what", "where", or "who". Ramos started by making a statement that Trump can't deport 11 million people (which is something that Trump has not said). Trump feels that if we round up the bad people, detain the questionable people, and refuse to hire the rest that they will take themselves out of the country.

You're an idiot. You know what he said and if you don't understand that the folks who [sp] he directed those comments to believe the comments were racial in nature, then, I repeat: you are an idiot. Additionally, as I have pointed out to your dumb ass before: the Mexican government doesn't "send" anybody here. They don't "send" their "best" people or their rapists, they don't "send" anybody. Fucking moron. You're offended and getting ready to start shrieking about anti-Semitism just because I added "Stein" to Trumps name....but Hispanics aren't supposed to be offended when Trump essentially calls them all criminals and rapists? I rest my case as to the evidence of your stupidity. BTW, the reference is to Frankenstein, nothing Jewish....Jew Lawyer. Originally Posted by timpage

You are the idiot you fucking anti-Semite. You are losing control of the "he is a mean old racist" insult because if you parse what he said he didn't call anyone a beaner, or a wetback, or a spic, and he didn't say anything racial, as much as you don't want to hear it. He didn't call all Mexicans rapists, or even all the people who come here. Additionally, I know you understand a "constructive discharge" in the workplace when the conditions are made so intolerable as to induce a person to quit. Mexico so fails in its duty to its less fortunate citizens that it creates a "constructive deportation" of its less desirable citizens - not quite like the "Mariel Boatlift" but similar. The Mexican government is quite happy for its poor people to go to the US with their families, get government handouts, and send their spare cash (by the billions) back to the folks in Mexico. You know this to be true, and yet you will fucking deny it like the bastard that you are. I hope you are the victim of a crime from a returning deportee when he carjacks your shitty car, and leaves you helpless in the street crying out, "But I love Mexicans!! I'm not a racist!!!"

You are the idiot you fucking anti-Semite. You are losing control of the "he is a mean old racist" insult because if you parse what he said he didn't call anyone a beaner, or a wetback, or a spic, and he didn't say anything racial, as much as you don't want to hear it. He didn't call all Mexicans rapists, or even all the people who come here.

Additionally, I know you understand a "constructive discharge" in the workplace when the conditions are made so intolerable as to induce a person to quit. Mexico so fails in its duty to its less fortunate citizens that it makes it a "constructive deportation" of its less desirable citizens - not quite like the Mariel Boatlift" but similar.

The Mexican government is quite happy for its poor people to go to the US with their families, get government handouts, and send their spare cash (by the billions) back to the folks in Mexico. You know this to be true, and yet you will fucking deny it like their bastard that you are.

I hope you are the victim of a crime from a returning deportee when he carjacks your shitty car, and leaves you helpless in the street crying out, "But I love Mexicans!! I'm not a racist!!!" Originally Posted by DSK

A Jewish Mexican?

A Jewish Mexican? Originally Posted by i'va biggen

If a Jewish Mexican stomped his face into the ground after he carjacked him, that would be pro-Semitic karma.

If a Jewish Mexican stomped his face into the ground after he carjacked him, that would be pro-Semitic karma. Originally Posted by DSK

Thought you liked Trump.

Thought you liked Trump. Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Thanks for the catch. I guess I wasn't clear.

Yes, I do like Mr. Trump. I was hoping the Jewish Mexican stomped TimmyBoy into the dirt. I owe you one.