Does the hobby make you a better lover?

In reality most (not all) providers just want you to go the fastest way to cum. To slow the session down to discuss how to do it better is really not in their best interest. While they want you to think you are doing ok it really doesn't matter. If you get them to cum that's fine and if you don't that's fine also as long as the session progresses. If your having sex with multiple partners each and every week it's understandable. There are some good exceptions out there. These are women that either just love sex or ones that truly want to help you get better. It's my opinion that if you really want to become a better lover that's something that might be left to a real world sexual encounter with someone you really like. This is when both partners really care for each other and want the best for them. Now providers don't get upset with this as in reality most guys just want to cum anyway.

Women are like boats they all their quirks that make them different, so what one likes the next one may like sokething different, and i agree with what ed said it proves my point, fewer lades that he sees regularly and knows what make them tick.

Women are like boats . . . Originally Posted by slacktide

Well, the good ones really know how to crank my Evinrude . . .

After reading this thread... I think I've cum to realize I may be a bit different than many guys... especially after seeing things like "in reality most guys just want to cum anyway."

In my case... I'd rather keep fucking as long as I can, before cumming... hoping to get her off as many times as possible!* As I get older... second rounds take a bit longer to "get up" than they used to... so I usually try to extend my first pop as long as possible.

In my experience, more often than not... girls like it when a guy takes control and steers the activities to his best interests.... especially when one of his main interests is to provide great oral and a good fucking her way too!* I "think " that most of the girls I see, genuinely like sex... and would just as soon enjoy their time with you, if they're already there anyway!

I believe the variety that the hobby offers, helps both sides... provider and hobbyist... in learning more techniques, more preferences... as well as giving eXXXcellent practice to help discover what works best!

Giz's $.02 , anyway....

After reading this thread... I think I've cum to realize I may be a bit different than many guys... especially after seeing things like "in reality most guys just want to cum anyway."

In my case... I'd rather keep fucking as long as I can, before cumming... hoping to get her off as many times as possible!* As I get older... second rounds take a bit longer to "get up" than they used to... so I usually try to extend my first pop as long as possible.

In my experience, more often than not... girls like it when a guy takes control and steers the activities to his best interests.... especially when one of his main interests is to provide great oral and a good fucking her way too!* I "think " that most of the girls I see, genuinely like sex... and would just as soon enjoy their time with you, if they're already there anyway!

I believe the variety that the hobby offers, helps both sides... provider and hobbyist... in learning more techniques, more preferences... as well as giving eXXXcellent practice to help discover what works best!

Giz's $.02 , anyway.... Originally Posted by MrGiz

I guess your just a better lover than the rest of us.

I am going to have to say NO! If that were true 70 percent of guys would know what they are doing by now, and they don't! I mean seriously...men in their 50s and 60s who still don't know how to kiss properly?

This is why I prefer young guys in my personal life...they are good with taking direction lol.

Remember a lot of us old guys have far less experience than you. Some of us have been married for a long time and not all of us were hobbyists(sp?).

You don't have to be in the hobby to be a good or better lover. Women you have been with should have taught you that long ago. The problem is so many women LIE because they don't want to bruise the guy's ego, so these men go out thinking they are the sh3t...then I hit em with the truth lmao.

I am not saying all, but it's a hell of a high percentage! I used to fake orgasms in my personal life, and I refuse to ever do that again. Just because I don't get off does not mean the guy is not doing something right. That is such a load of bs. Most men and women can make themselves go by simply adjusting to what even the worst lover is doing.

Add to that all of us are different, so just because you have 95 people saying you're the best, does not mean the last 5 will think so.

Ask my ATF.

I am going to have to say NO! If that were true 70 percent of guys would know what they are doing by now, and they don't! I mean seriously...men in their 50s and 60s who still don't know how to kiss properly?
.......lol. Originally Posted by London Rayne

You take that back!!!

Well i have gotten pretty good compliments on being a great lover and a good companion in and out the sheets.

I thought I was a master kisser until I met a young Asian girl who blew my socks off and curled my toes when she gave me an intense fiery kiss that blasted me into an ecstatic orbit!

She stopped me once while I was kissing her and told me I needed to improve and she showed me how to really deliver a kiss!

Wow! I still remember how inspirational her lessons were.
Originally Posted by Fast Gunn

Fast Gunn,

Don't leave me hangin'. I love great kissing but I can always improve. Tell us the secrets that you learned from your Asian mentor? Don't be a tease!

Yours in osculation,

Awl4knot

MrGiz has nicely stated my viewpoint and approach. I don't know if I am better than most but I hold my own. Besides, who is keeping score?

It seems obvious to me that the Hobby makes you a better lover. Your partners are professionals who have learned their craft in hundreds of bedrooms. Some of their accumulated sexual skills and wisdom has to rub off on you.

Awl4knot

I believe "good in bed" is a relative term, whether in the hobby or the real world. No two women are exactly alike. I choose to think I am a good lover, primarily because most of my enjoyment comes from making sure the lady is satisfied. Some ladies like gentle manipulation of their genitalia and erogenous zones and some prefer a harder touch; some like hard and fast penetration, some prefer slow and deep. I have been with women who absolutely love to have their clit sucked on and others who prefer a gentle tip of the tongue action. If a woman doesn't tell you what she likes, either by her body reactions or vocally, how are we dumb men supposed to know how a woman likes to be fucked? I can lose an erection in a heartbeat if I feel the woman is faking enjoyment, so I usually tell a first timer, up front, please talk to me about your likes/dislikes and we will both have a much better time. I have left encounters feeling like a stud, and I have left some feeling like a loser.

I like a little instruction. I prefer a passionate session to a really mechanical one...in fact, a really bad session turned me off to the hobby for almost half a year.

What about the providers? My problem is that I never know where the line is for a certain lady. Some women don't kiss, some women do kiss but intentionally poorly (it's a bit like kissing a cat...they hold still sometimes but all you're getting is some face)...I've never had a truly spectacular kiss from a provider. Do they like to be turned on? Will they just tolerate or will they like breast play, DATY, etc? Will they think I'm wasting their time by trying to get them into it? Am I being arrogant to think that I can get them excited after they've been with a dozen men that week? That day?