Arguments for and against Trumps acomplishments

Jacuzzme's Avatar
That’s a steaming pile of crap. Of course the handful of people who pay all the taxes are going to end up getting a higher benefit in raw numbers. 2% of a million is more than 10% of a thousand.

And when was it that democrats start giving AF about debt?
chizzy's Avatar
This one is completely false. 83% of his "tax relief" went straight to the top 1%, and they have exploded the debt. The exact opposite of what he promised his rubes would happen.

https://www.americanprogress.org/art...ng-debt-ratio/ Originally Posted by tommy156

The cbo would tell u your post is full of shit. The cbo, not a left or right news article
berryberry's Avatar
The cbo would tell u your post is full of shit. The cbo, not a left or right news article Originally Posted by chizzy
It is par for the course for him.

But given his previous posts, it appears someone who doesn't pay much, if any income taxes would have a very skewed perspective like he does.

Meanwhile in the real world:

Income data published by the IRS clearly show that on average all income brackets benefited substantially from the Republicans’ tax reform law, with the biggest beneficiaries being working and middle-income filers, not the top 1 percent, as so many Democrats have argued.

A careful analysis of the IRS tax data, one that includes the effects of tax credits and other reforms to the tax code, shows that filers with an adjusted gross income (AGI) of $15,000 to $50,000 enjoyed an average tax cut of 16 percent to 26 percent in 2018, the first year Republicans’ Tax Cuts and Jobs Act went into effect and the most recent year for which data is available.

Filers who earned $50,000 to $100,000 received a tax break of about 15 percent to 17 percent, and those earning $100,000 to $500,000 in adjusted gross income saw their personal income taxes cut by around 11 percent to 13 percent.

By comparison, no income group with an AGI of at least $500,000 received an average tax cut exceeding 9 percent, and the average tax cut for brackets starting at $1 million was less than 6 percent. (For more detailed data, see my table published here.)

That means most middle-income and working-class earners enjoyed a tax cut that was at least double the size of tax cuts received by households earning $1 million or more.
That’s a steaming pile of crap. Of course the handful of people who pay all the taxes are going to end up getting a higher benefit in raw numbers. 2% of a million is more than 10% of a thousand. Originally Posted by Jacuzzme
Thanks for confirming that the middle class really didn't get shit from the trump "tax relief". You just made my point for me.
And when was it that democrats start giving AF about debt? Originally Posted by Jacuzzme
When trump told his throngs of knuckle draggers he'd eliminate it in his first year in office. Lol! Remember that total bullshit lie? Not only did he not eliminate it, he nearly doubled it.
Cody69's Avatar
When did Trump say he had a cure for Covid? Originally Posted by Jacuzzme
Get real, where have you been? the Malaria drug, bleach, light up the ass. Just to name the top three.
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
Get real, where have you been? the Malaria drug, bleach, light up the ass. Just to name the top three. Originally Posted by Cody69

Trump never told anyone to drink bleach. complete nonsense. the malaria drug turned out to be effective. one wonders why big pharma was so intent to discredit it? no big profits in it.

the ultra violent treatment Trump mentioned turned out to also be true.


remember when Trump mentioned Ultraviolet light as a way to sterilize the Chinese virus and of course everyone yelled like pussies?


Ultraviolet light sterilizing technology introduced at Phoenix airport to kill coronavirus

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ultraviol...160016304.html


Katelyn Keenehan, Arizona Republic
September 6, 2020, 11:00 AM CDT




Ultraviolet light sterilizing technology introduced at Phoenix airport to kill coronavirus


Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport added seven UV-C light sterilizers to some pre-security escalators to maximize the safety of travelers amid the coronavirus pandemic.


UV-C, or ultraviolet light, is known to kill up to 99.9% of bacteria and viruses and many other microorganisms, according to Sky Harbor officials.


The light was installed underneath the escalator handrail and is not visible to travelers, according to Gabriel Nevarez, deputy aviation director for Facilities and Services.


"They shine the UV light directly on the handrail as it passes through," Nevarez said, "As the handrail is moving, it's a continuous sanitation of the handrail."


The new UV-C system was installed in two escalators in Terminal 3 and three in Terminal 4.


The airport chose these terminals due to their high levels of foot traffic, according to Phoenix Sky Harbor spokeswoman Krishna Patel.


"Terminal 4 is the busiest. It has our two main airlines, Southwest and American, as well as our international flights which have been on hold since the beginning of COVID. Terminal 3 is also busy and is going to get busier than it was earlier this year as people start to travel again," Patel said.



The new installation is part of a pilot program, and if it is successful, the airport plans to expand the UV-C light to other areas of the facility.


"The goal is to expand into the rest of our escalators and moving walkways," Nevarez said.


Brittney Evans, who traveled to Phoenix from Goshen, Indiana, with her 9-month-old daughter, Mary Evans, and nephew, Ayden Hussey, said she feels good about the new precautionary measure for the handrails.


"Yeah, it makes us feel safer. That way he (her nephew) can touch them," Evans said.


The airport has taken a number of precautions to instill confidence in people who want to fly again.




Brittney Evans of Goshen, Ind., carries her daughter, Mary Evans and holds hands with her nephew, Ayden Hussey, as they travel down an escalator with UV-C light technology to sterilize handrails, at Terminal 3 of Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport on Sept. 3, 2020.


It implemented mask-wearing and social distancing on the airport premises, and some airlines are even leaving middle seats open to accommodate travelers.


Terry Nelson, traveling from Salt Lake City with her family, said they saw the airport's effort to keep the environment safe.


"My son fell asleep and his mask came off. The flight attendant, right away, told him to get that back on," Nelson said.


Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport has staff designated to cleaning various units throughout the day.


"Disinfecting and sanitizing an airport takes a lot. Our custodial vendor has staff throughout the terminals doing the daily cleaning and disinfecting," Nevarez said, "By increasing our sanitizing efforts, it increases the safety of our passengers."


Prior to the pandemic, more than 125,000 passengers arrived at or departed from Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport. In March, those numbers plummeted 93%.


"They are still significantly down. It is higher than they were in March, but they are not to the level of what we have seen in previous years," Patel said.


Several airports across the country already implemented the UV-C light sanitation system in response to the COVID-19 pandemic.


The UV-C system at Sky Harbor International Airport will run continuously, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.


This article originally appeared on Arizona Republic: Phoenix Sky Harbor Airport adds UV light to kill coronavirus Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
Cody69's Avatar
Trump never told anyone to drink bleach. complete nonsense. the malaria drug turned out to be effective. one wonders why big pharma was so intent to discredit it? no big profits in it.

the ultra violent treatment Trump mentioned turned out to also be true. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
You drank the kool-aid too, wow. None of that is true what you said. I am not calling you names, don't miss understand, but none of that true of what you said is true. They actually outlawed that drug to be used for COVID
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
You drank the kool-aid too, wow. None of that is true what you said. I am not calling you names, don't miss understand, but none of that true of what you said is true. They actually outlawed that drug to be used for COVID Originally Posted by Cody69

prove Trump said that. he didn't and no one has "outlawed" that malaria drug. prove it.


what Trump really said



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33QdTOyXz3w
berryberry's Avatar
Thanks for confirming that the middle class really didn't get shit from the trump "tax relief". You just made my point for me. Originally Posted by tommy156
LOL, what point. Why do you continue to post completely false information that is so easily refuted?

I know you are trying to ignore this but here are the real facts

Income data published by the IRS clearly show that on average all income brackets benefited substantially from the Republicans’ tax reform law, with the biggest beneficiaries being working and middle-income filers, not the top 1 percent, as so many Democrats have argued.

A careful analysis of the IRS tax data, one that includes the effects of tax credits and other reforms to the tax code, shows that filers with an adjusted gross income (AGI) of $15,000 to $50,000 enjoyed an average tax cut of 16 percent to 26 percent in 2018, the first year Republicans’ Tax Cuts and Jobs Act went into effect and the most recent year for which data is available.

Filers who earned $50,000 to $100,000 received a tax break of about 15 percent to 17 percent, and those earning $100,000 to $500,000 in adjusted gross income saw their personal income taxes cut by around 11 percent to 13 percent.

By comparison, no income group with an AGI of at least $500,000 received an average tax cut exceeding 9 percent, and the average tax cut for brackets starting at $1 million was less than 6 percent. (For more detailed data, see my table published here.)

That means most middle-income and working-class earners enjoyed a tax cut that was at least double the size of tax cuts received by households earning $1 million or more.
berryberry's Avatar
Trump never told anyone to drink bleach. complete nonsense. the malaria drug turned out to be effective. one wonders why big pharma was so intent to discredit it? no big profits in it.

the ultra violent treatment Trump mentioned turned out to also be true. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
This thread is another reminder that TDS is a dangerous thing. It is amazing to read most of the false information the leftists post. Are they that ill informed or do they just purposely make stuff up?
This thread is another reminder that TDS is a dangerous thing. It is amazing to read most of the false information the leftists post. Are they that ill informed or do they just purposely make stuff up? Originally Posted by berryberry
Yes, and thank goodness BDS isn't a real thing. That might lead to 10 new threads per day about the current POTUS. Thank goodness it's only TDS we should be worried about.
berryberry's Avatar
Yes, and thank goodness BDS isn't a real thing. That might lead to 10 new threads per day about the current POTUS. Thank goodness it's only TDS we should be worried about. Originally Posted by tommy156
WOW - why am I not surprised that you don't even understand teh meaning of TDS?
Jacuzzme's Avatar
Thanks for confirming that the middle class really didn't get shit from the trump "tax relief". You just made my point for me. Originally Posted by tommy156
They certainly did, tax rates were cut across the board. The middle class, depending on what income level you define that as, pays little to no taxes anyways. It’s pretty tough to reduce taxes that are already zero but, believe it or not, that’s actually a thing when the (non)payer qualifies for the EITC. I’m a huge advocate of raising taxes on the poor, btw. If you want European style social services the poor and middle class is going to start throwing in. There’s simply not enough high earners, even if they’re taxed at 100%.

Great clip on the subject

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pdtuouzHW0
This thread is another reminder that TDS is a dangerous thing. It is amazing to read most of the false information the leftists post. Are they that ill informed or do they just purposely make stuff up? Originally Posted by berryberry
The thread is about trump, please stay on topic