does hobbying make you less sensitive to love...

It was a long hard road to get there, we were dating and I was lying about my work, he has his job, I have mine, eventually I just realized he was my best friend and deserved to know even if that meant he would leave. I gave him that truth, and he took it surprisingly well and said he would have felt much worse if I had a relationship where I was in love with somebody else. I also think he knew because he has a way of reading me...
We keep things simple, he has his job, I have mine, He keeps his money, I keep mine... we don't co-mingle funds Originally Posted by nat00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YBeepShsgo

You just won me over!

OPPS I forgot to forward the lyrics.... best of luck and of coarse I'm "Still Looking"

To dream the impossible dream
To fight the unbeatable foe
To bear with unbearable sorrow
To run where the brave dare not go

To right the unrightable wrong
To be better far than you are
To try when your arms are too weary
To reach the unreachable star

This is my quest
To follow that star
No matter how hopeless
No matter how far

To be willing to give
When there's no more to give
To be willing to die
So that honor and justice may live

And I know if I'll only be true
To this glorious quest
That my heart will lie peaceful and calm
When I'm laid to my rest

And the world will be better for this
That one man scorned and covered with scars
Still strove with his last ounce of courage
To reach the unreachable star

To dream the impossible dream
To fight the unbeatable foe
To bear with unbearable sorrow
To run where the brave dare not go

To right the unrightable wrong
To be better far than you are
To try when your arms are too weary
To reach the unreachable star

This is my quest
To follow that star
No matter how hopeless
No matter how far

To be willing to give
When there's no more to give
To be willing to die
So that honor and justice may live

And I know if I'll only be true
To this glorious quest
That my heart will lie peaceful and calm
When I'm laid to my rest

And the world will be better for this
That one man scorned and covered with scars
Still strove with his last ounce of courage
To reach the unreachable star

A Male Fairy Tale



Once upon a time, a Prince asked a beautiful Princess "Will you marry me"? The Princess said "NO" And the Prince lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and fucked skinny big titted gals and hunted and raced cars and went to naked bars and dated women half his age and drank whiskey, vodka, beer and Captain Morgan and never heard any bitching and never paid child support or alimony and ate pussies and fucked cheerleaders and kept his house and guns and never got cheated on while he was at work and all his friends and family thought he was fuckin cool as hell and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up ..... always!
The end.
Brings a tear to my eye every time I read it

I'm sorry to hear that. One thing I'll never understand is why anyone stays in an abusive relationship, unless they feel attempting to leave will put their lives, or physical well being in jeopardy. I'm glad you're out of it and happier now.



I still don't understand why you think men would expect free dates from you or others if you were to meet someone for dinner with compensation. I understand you want compensation for your time. However, in a time when you were, or may still be unable to work while your augmentation heals, I don't understand how meeting a potential client for a nice dinner, plus a nominal fee, is simply out of the question. You said there are exceptions, and to me, because you're unable to work, this seems like the perfect time for that exception. Besides, who would know you accepted such an invitation other than you two? Try looking at it as a really good PR move. If you work your magic at dinner, you're very likely looking at repeat client at full rate, plus tips. We take this as a woman who's not all about the money and men like that. If you make a man feel special, he will want to see you repeatedly. Originally Posted by surcher

WOW! You now get the attention and compensation you deserve and you're tired of charity work? That sounds like a woman who's all about herself and the money and feels our time is not worth as much as hers. When you come back to work I suggest you never let anyone know you were Isis. However, with feelings like this I think she will eventually come out in any persona.

And now back to your regularly scheduled programming! [/quote]

Darlin, I'm sorry but you misunderstood me. When I said I was "sick of charity work" I should have elaborated. What I meant by that was, I'm tired of relationships where I give, give, give and I don't get anything in return. I was speaking about my past relationships with men I dated. My ex boyfriends. They were selfish and one was abusive. So when you give and you don't get anything in return, it is like charity work. I'm no longer willing to be in that type of relationship. When I mentioned the charity work, I was not referring to the hobbyists I've met. I was talking about the jerks who are now my ex.

And your right, while I heal it would do no harm to meet someone for dinner and i would. But the reason why I said I had an issue with free or reduced lunches, oops I mean dates LOL, is because I'm always so busy I barely have time for family/friends/dog/chores. My free time is limited, so it really isn't feasable for me to go on these dates. I have to maximize my time with the money making dates, not the free or reduced ones. In a perfect world, I would have all the time in the world to get to know everyone on a person to person basis. Unfortunitely thats not realistic to me. I'm not saying you guys aren't worth getting to know. I'm just saying from a time management stand point, it's not possible for me to do these reduced dinner dates. Time, time, time, see whats become....of me??

I think most hobbyists either like to play the field and get variety, or do have a SO/wife where the sex is absent or no long fulfilling. So the hobby can be a useful outlet and healthy to the mind and body of the hobbyist. (Some good sex keeps the plumbing in shape.)

But I would think that women in the hobby would have more difficulty than before the hobby in trusting a man--they see every working day men who are not being faithful to a significant other. It seems the women would have to worry that if they get into (another) serious relationship, the guy cannot be trusted.

I think most hobbyists either like to play the field and get variety, or do have a SO/wife where the sex is absent or no long fulfilling. So the hobby can be a useful outlet and healthy to the mind and body of the hobbyist. (Some good sex keeps the plumbing in shape.)

But I would think that women in the hobby would have more difficulty than before the hobby in trusting a man--they see every working day men who are not being faithful to a significant other. It seems the women would have to worry that if they get into (another) serious relationship, the guy cannot be trusted. Originally Posted by Skipp

Definitely food for thought!!

WOW! You now get the attention and compensation you deserve and you're tired of charity work? That sounds like a woman who's all about herself and the money and feels our time is not worth as much as hers. When you come back to work I suggest you never let anyone know you were Isis. However, with feelings like this I think she will eventually come out in any persona.

And now back to your regularly scheduled programming! Originally Posted by incognito isis

Darlin, I'm sorry but you misunderstood me. When I said I was "sick of charity work" I should have elaborated. What I meant by that was, I'm tired of relationships where I give, give, give and I don't get anything in return. I was speaking about my past relationships with men I dated. My ex boyfriends. They were selfish and one was abusive. So when you give and you don't get anything in return, it is like charity work. I'm no longer willing to be in that type of relationship. When I mentioned the charity work, I was not referring to the hobbyists I've met. I was talking about the jerks who are now my ex.

And your right, while I heal it would do no harm to meet someone for dinner and i would. But the reason why I said I had an issue with free or reduced lunches, oops I mean dates LOL, is because I'm always so busy I barely have time for family/friends/dog/chores. My free time is limited, so it really isn't feasable for me to go on these dates. I have to maximize my time with the money making dates, not the free or reduced ones. In a perfect world, I would have all the time in the world to get to know everyone on a person to person basis. Unfortunitely thats not realistic to me. I'm not saying you guys aren't worth getting to know. I'm just saying from a time management stand point, it's not possible for me to do these reduced dinner dates. Time, time, time, see whats become....of me??


Let's not forget the time spent on ECCIE! I have spent my whole life doing what other people want, now I do what I want. If your not doing the same thing its time to revaluate.

On a different note... people always seem to want what they can't have. They spend a Substansional amount of time try to get where they have no place being. The rest of the time they are complaining about not being there!

In the “REAL WORLD” I am extremely private. My time is limited and it is very challenging for someone to get a moment with me. In my Hobby world I have all the time in the world and someone could spend a 3 day weekend with me in Las Vegas let's say at the Bellagio (In & Out Berger at Tropicana) or perhaps in Philadelphia at the Ritz-Carlton (Fourth Street Delicatessen). I wonder why that is…. Simple CHOICES!

Food for thought? Hope you’re hungry!

The worst moment in an argument is that moment you realize your wrong. I have been there many times. I have found an excellent sense of humor is invaluable for that situation.
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I think most hobbyists either like to play the field and get variety, or do have a SO/wife where the sex is absent or no long fulfilling. So the hobby can be a useful outlet and healthy to the mind and body of the hobbyist. (Some good sex keeps the plumbing in shape.)

But I would think that women in the hobby would have more difficulty than before the hobby in trusting a man--they see every working day men who are not being faithful to a significant other. It seems the women would have to worry that if they get into (another) serious relationship, the guy cannot be trusted. Originally Posted by Skipp

My oh my....let me get this straight. A provider who is accommodating a hobbyist being unfaithful would have issues with trusting?!

Is that like pissing in the wind and wondering why you get a bad taste in your mouth?

Outside my office is a sign. "NO ONE GETS TO SEE THE WIZARD"

Inside my office are two signs.

"It Is What It Is" & "Because I Said So"

These signs were gifts from emplyees. I love them. I have had entire conversations and not said a word. I just pointed to the signs.

I need one more sign. "Any Questions?"

WOW! You now get the attention and compensation you deserve and you're tired of charity work? That sounds like a woman who's all about herself and the money and feels our time is not worth as much as hers. When you come back to work I suggest you never let anyone know you were Isis. However, with feelings like this I think she will eventually come out in any persona.

And now back to your regularly scheduled programming! Originally Posted by incognito isis

Darlin, I'm sorry but you misunderstood me.

I honestly don't think I did.

And your right, while I heal it would do no harm to meet someone for dinner and i would. But the reason why I said I had an issue with free or reduced lunches, oops I mean dates LOL, is because I'm always so busy I barely have time for family/friends/dog/chores. My free time is limited, so it really isn't feasable for me to go on these dates. I have to maximize my time with the money making dates, not the free or reduced ones. In a perfect world, I would have all the time in the world to get to know everyone on a person to person basis. Unfortunitely thats not realistic to me. I'm not saying you guys aren't worth getting to know. I'm just saying from a time management stand point, it's not possible for me to do these reduced dinner dates. Time, time, time, see whats become....of me??[/QUOTE]


So there's no misunderstanding me, the date I have always referred to was dinner with a nominal fee, not free. Now, let me get this correct so I'm not misunderstanding you.

You say while you heal (you aren't working), you see no harm to meet someone for dinner, and you would. Correct?

You follow that by saying you have an issue with free, or reduced rates dates because, in your words, "I'm always so busy I barely have time for family/friends/dog/chores. My free time is limited, so it really isn't feasable for me to go on these dates." Wait, now the date isn't feasible because you don't have time? Now, you wont go on the date, correct? No misunderstanding thus far.

The only way to maximize your time is to only go on paid dates. Correct? Therefore, you wouldn't go on the date like you said, or as you put it, "I'm just saying from a time management stand point, it's not possible for me to do these reduced dinner dates."

Since March 7 you've had, to date, 623 posts in about 74 days. That's about 8.5 per day, not including reading time and whatever else you do on the computer. If you were to truly maximize your time, instead of reading and posting as Isis, you could have taken time off of here (time you don't have to waste), gotten a nice, free, dinner, gotten paid a nominal fee, as opposed to nothing, AND gotten a new client instead. Which of the two would have maximized your time?

Basically, you lied and attempted to rationalize it by saying you don't have time unless it's being paid for, which confirms what I said about it being all about you, your time is worth more than ours and thinking you deserve attention and to be compensated, which were your words. The comment about not doing charity work spoke volumes.

I wont comment on this any further, as I've maxed out my time on your bullshit!



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Note to self: Don't screw with Surcher!

Darlin, I'm sorry but you misunderstood me.

I honestly don't think I did.

And your right, while I heal it would do no harm to meet someone for dinner and i would. But the reason why I said I had an issue with free or reduced lunches, oops I mean dates LOL, is because I'm always so busy I barely have time for family/friends/dog/chores. My free time is limited, so it really isn't feasable for me to go on these dates. I have to maximize my time with the money making dates, not the free or reduced ones. In a perfect world, I would have all the time in the world to get to know everyone on a person to person basis. Unfortunitely thats not realistic to me. I'm not saying you guys aren't worth getting to know. I'm just saying from a time management stand point, it's not possible for me to do these reduced dinner dates. Time, time, time, see whats become....of me?? Originally Posted by surcher

So there's no misunderstanding me, the date I have always referred to was dinner with a nominal fee, not free. Now, let me get this correct so I'm not misunderstanding you.

You say while you heal (you aren't working), you see no harm to meet someone for dinner, and you would. Correct?

You follow that by saying you have an issue with free, or reduced rates dates because, in your words, "I'm always so busy I barely have time for family/friends/dog/chores. My free time is limited, so it really isn't feasable for me to go on these dates." Wait, now the date isn't feasible because you don't have time? Now, you wont go on the date, correct? No misunderstanding thus far.

The only way to maximize your time is to only go on paid dates. Correct? Therefore, you wouldn't go on the date like you said, or as you put it, "I'm just saying from a time management stand point, it's not possible for me to do these reduced dinner dates."

Since March 7 you've had, to date, 623 posts in about 74 days. That's about 8.5 per day, not including reading time and whatever else you do on the computer. If you were to truly maximize your time, instead of reading and posting as Isis, you could have taken time off of here (time you don't have to waste), gotten a nice, free, dinner, gotten paid a nominal fee, as opposed to nothing, AND gotten a new client instead. Which of the two would have maximized your time?

Basically, you lied and attempted to rationalize it by saying you don't have time unless it's being paid for, which confirms what I said about it being all about you, your time is worth more than ours and thinking you deserve attention and to be compensated, which were your words. The comment about not doing charity work spoke volumes.

I wont comment on this any further, as I've maxed out my time on your bullshit!



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Darlin, you can twist what I say all you want. I don't care. Recently I've had plastic surgery so I'm not working, I'm taking it easy-so I come on Eccie for a few laughs. When I AM working my time is limited. Right now I have more time on my hands, I'm thinking 3 months should be enough time to fully heal and no longer feel sore. Right now, if someone asked me for a reduced dinner date, I would go. Why not? I have more time now and I'm not doing much. Sure I'd go. But when I start booking appointments and get back to work, then I don't have time for the reduced dates.

Also, I have many regulars who keep me busy. I have admitted I am low volume. I've said it before. I advertise on TER, p411, and Eros. I don't advertise here (yet) because I signed up in the beginning just to chit chat, and you can't have 2 handles or whatever. It's against the rules. If I had known how much I loved Eccie and spent so much time here, I would have certainly used it as an advertising mecca. However, I don't need to advertise EVERYWHERE when I am working because I only do this a few times a week and my regulars keep me going for MOST of the time.

Sir, you seemed offended by my charity work comment. I was stating that I referred to my past relationships as charity work, not the hobbyists. So IDK why you have your panties in a bunch. I don't know why you think I think I'm too good for the hobbyists. It's not true! I've made friends with hobbyists in the past. Sometimes people PM me here to chit chat, and I chat with them and goof around. I think I am no better than anyone. Maybe you should atke me out to dinner and see for yourself how nice of a girl I truely am?? Ask me to dinner now while I have the time, because once I get back on my feet and start escorting I won't really have the extra time.

Well cut my legs off and call me shorty. You have blown me off like a redheaded step child. Had I known all I needed to do was give you crap... Well, I guess I've seen this a 100 times before. Go figure.

What was that you said in your recent post...

Actually, one of my last boyfriends was abusive to me. I stayed with him for 3 years so perhaps thats where I've become jaded? I'm much more happy now days then in the past. As far as the nominal fee rate for dinner, I feel that an escorts time should be compensated accordingly. Men shouldn't expect free dates with us. Of course there are exceptions to the rule, just speaking in general terms. Yes, you are right. Escorting has changed my view on men, but honestly, can any escort truely say it hasn't? It's true,. before escorting I was a big softy. Always (still) looking and following and falling in love. Now days it just seems like I'm not as sensitive as I used to be. Maybe it's because I'm getting massive attention now days being an escort, vs. in the past I wasn't getting the attention I craved? I think it may have more to do with my needs being met now vs. in the past. I'm not saying I use escorting for my emotional needs. But I do get the attention and compensation I deserve vs. in the past I felt lonely and unfulfilled chasing crappy men who played head games. Today I'm wiser also. I can sniff out a jerk or a game player but in the past I was so nieve because I didn't have the life experiences to know anything. I think I'm jaded by the men I dated and had relationships with. Thats why I don't date. I escort. I'm tired of charity work.

Who would have thunk it?! Is it me or is there some history between these two?

Back on topic: "does hobbying make you less sensitive to love"

I'm not sure if it does... but it sure separates the Suchers from the Still Lookings

Still Looking, what are you talking about? How have I ignored you?

Let's not forget the time spent on ECCIE! I have spent my whole life doing what other people want, now I do what I want. If your not doing the same thing its time to revaluate.

On a different note... people always seem to want what they can't have. They spend a Substansional amount of time try to get where they have no place being. The rest of the time they are complaining about not being there!

In the “REAL WORLD” I am extremely private. My time is limited and it is very challenging for someone to get a moment with me. In my Hobby world I have all the time in the world and someone could spend a 3 day weekend with me in Las Vegas let's say at the Bellagio (Below)(In & Out Burger at Tropicana) or perhaps in Philadelphia at the Ritz-Carlton (Fourth Street Delicatessen). I wonder why that is…. Simple CHOICES!

Food for thought? Hope you’re hungry!

The worst moment in an argument is that moment you realize your wrong. I have been there many times. I have found an excellent sense of humor is invaluable for that situation.


Did this get by you perhaps.... not withstanding the PM'S. Maybe you thought I was directing this at Surcher? No big deal, you most certainly don't owe anyone anything. This is all in fun anyway.

sex does not equal love Originally Posted by wallstreet

But it does = $200-$300