There should be no doubt about why the left is pushing mall-in ballots.

Kinda oldish count. Don't ya think? But using your 5 number; Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington are clearly Demonicrat chite-holes deluxe. Regardless, up to 27 have expanded mail-in fraud for 2020.


Gets one to thinking about rushing through without having adequate protections in place. Either way, I'm hoping you will be first in line for the Gates jab, when it is available. Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Care to provide proof of your asinine claim?

Care to provide proof of your asinine claim? Originally Posted by Little Monster

It's not asinine claim...I don't expect you to understand mini munster

From the New York Crimes 2012...

There is a bipartisan consensus that voting by mail, whatever its impact, is more easily abused than other forms. In a 2005 report signed by President Jimmy Carter and James A. Baker III, who served as secretary of state under the first President George Bush, the Commission on Federal Election Reform concluded, “Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.”

On the most basic level, absentee voting replaces the oversight that exists at polling places with something akin to an honor system.

“Absentee voting is to voting in person,” Judge Richard A. Posner of the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit has written, “as a take-home exam is to a proctored one.”

Fraud Easier Via Mail

Election administrators have a shorthand name for a central weakness of voting by mail. They call it granny farming.

“The problem,” said Murray A. Greenberg, a former county attorney in Miami, “is really with the collection of absentee ballots at the senior citizen centers.” In Florida, people affiliated with political campaigns “help people vote absentee,” he said. “And help is in quotation marks.”

Voters in nursing homes can be subjected to subtle pressure, outright intimidation or fraud. The secrecy of their voting is easily compromised. And their ballots can be intercepted both coming and going.


The problem is not limited to the elderly, of course. Absentee ballots also make it much easier to buy and sell votes. In recent years, courts have invalidated mayoral elections in Illinois and Indiana because of fraudulent absentee ballots.

Voting by mail also played a crucial role in the 2000 presidential election in Florida, when the margin between George W. Bush and Al Gore was razor thin and hundreds of absentee ballots were counted in apparent violation of state law. The flawed ballots, from Americans living abroad, included some without postmarks, some postmarked after the election, some without witness signatures, some mailed from within the United States and some sent by people who voted twice. All would have been disqualified had the state’s election laws been strictly enforced.

In the recent primary here, almost 40 percent of ballots were not cast in the voting booth on the day of the election. They were split between early votes cast at polling places, which Mr. Sancho, the Leon County elections supervisor, favors, and absentee ballots, which make him nervous.

“There has been not one case of fraud in early voting,” Mr. Sancho said. “The only cases of election fraud have been in absentee ballots.”

Efforts to prevent fraud at polling places have an ironic consequence, Justin Levitt, a professor at Loyola Law School, told the Senate Judiciary Committee September last year. They will, he said, “drive more voters into the absentee system, where fraud and coercion have been documented to be real and legitimate concerns.”

“That is,” he said, “a law ostensibly designed to reduce the incidence of fraud is likely to increase the rate at which voters utilize a system known to succumb to fraud more frequently.”

Clarity Brings Better Results

In 2008, Minnesota officials rejected 12,000 absentee ballots, about 4 percent of all such votes, for the myriad reasons that make voting by mail far less reliable than voting in person.

The absentee ballot itself could be blamed for some of the problems. It had to be enclosed in envelopes containing various information and signatures, including one from a witness who had to attest to handling the logistics of seeing that “the voter marked the ballots in that individual’s presence without showing how they were marked.” Such witnesses must themselves be registered voters, with a few exceptions.

Absentee ballots have been rejected in Minnesota and elsewhere for countless reasons. Signatures from older people, sloppy writers or stroke victims may not match those on file. The envelopes and forms may not have been configured in the right sequence. People may have moved, and addresses may not match. Witnesses may not be registered to vote. The mail may be late.

But it is certainly possible to improve the process and reduce the error rate.

Here in Leon County, the rejection rate for absentee ballots is less than 1 percent. The instructions it provides to voters are clear, and the outer envelope is a model of graphic design, with a large signature box at its center.

The envelope requires only standard postage, and Mr. Sancho has made arrangements with the post office to pay for ballots that arrive without stamps.

Still, he would prefer that voters visit a polling place on Election Day or beforehand so that errors and misunderstandings can be corrected and the potential for fraud minimized.

“If you vote by mail, where is that coming from?” he asked. “Is there intimidation going on?”

Last November, Gov. Rick Scott, a Republican, suspended a school board member in Madison County, not far from here, after she was arrested on charges including absentee ballot fraud.

The board member, Abra Hill Johnson, won the school board race “by what appeared to be a disproportionate amount of absentee votes,” the arrest affidavit said. The vote was 675 to 647, but Ms. Johnson had 217 absentee votes to her opponent’s 86. Officials said that 80 absentee ballots had been requested at just nine addresses. Law enforcement agents interviewed 64 of the voters whose ballots were sent; only two recognized the address.

Ms. Johnson has pleaded not guilty.

Election law experts say that pulling off in-person voter fraud on a scale large enough to swing an election, with scores if not hundreds of people committing a felony in public by pretending to be someone else, is hard to imagine, to say nothing of exceptionally risky.

There are much simpler and more effective alternatives to commit fraud on such a scale, said Heather Gerken, a law professor at Yale.

“You could steal some absentee ballots or stuff a ballot box or bribe an election administrator or fiddle with an electronic voting machine,” she said. That explains, she said, “why all the evidence of stolen elections involves absentee ballots and the like.”

Voter fraudism is the new birtherism.

Same old dipshittery.

What's up with mall-in ballots?

Care to provide proof of your asinine claim? Originally Posted by Little Monster

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do
Kinda oldish count. Don't ya think? But using your 5 number; Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington are clearly Demonicrat chite-holes deluxe. Regardless, up to 27 have expanded mail-in fraud for 2020.

Response was to dipwad's comment that there are 5 states with mail-in voting. You can look up which States have regular mail-in voting. 4 of the 5 are listed above. If you're feeling frisky, you can look up which States have expanded mail-in for 2020. Easiest way to tell if the 4 States are chite-holes is probably a NASA satellite showing fires burning. Failing that, you could follow the riot live stream videos of them.


Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do
Gets one to thinking about rushing through without having adequate protections in place. Either way, I'm hoping you will be first in line for the Gates jab, when it is available

For this, let's look in to what Comrade Cuomo is saying this week:
Cuomo said, “I don’t trust the president and I don’t trust the FDA. … The vaccine, he said yesterday that the FDA was being political in saying they actually wanted to review the vaccine. So, yeah, the American people don’t trust the FDA. They shouldn’t. Trump has politicized this entire situation. He’s overridden health and science with politics.”


Seems as though Comrade Cuomo is advocating the "Lock-Downs 4-evah" platform, which would cause a normal person to wonder why a Governor would want to keep all of their citizens locked up all the time. Which might explain the long lines of moving vans heading away from NYC.


As to asinine. No, but your ass is mine. Do you even think before your blather anyway?

^^^^ At the very least the election gonna be a Fucked up mess ^^^ Again u can go to walmart but cant vote in person ?????????????????????????????? ???

^^^^ At the very least the election gonna be a Fucked up mess ^^^ Again u can go to walmart but cant vote in person ?????????????????????????????? ??? Originally Posted by rexdutchman

Yous said it Rexsy, whatever it was? The AMERICAN election is going to be a fucked up mess because Trump has been laying the groundwork for that since you fools allowed him to take over. It’s all he talk about in his campaign monologues...can’t really call those speeches, can yous?

We know yous works at the Walmart’s. But...

Are yous even allowed to vote?

idea - DPST's insist the only persons who engagge in ballot fraud are Republicans
Let's propose that ballot/voter fraud be a Capital Crime - punishable by Death.

and see what is the response from the Lying DPST's
ostensibly - they should want to hang a whole bunch of Republicans - they know the reality is completely different.

Gosh - what I would pay to watch h..... and Bernie mount the 13 steps! Originally Posted by oeb11

Holy shit, Ramboebsy, your TDS has gotten the best of yous. Remember when yous used to judge others posts beced on them being “cogent and constructive?” KInda give you a sense of moral superiority.

Well that piece of shit’s been flushed down the old loo, hasnt it, big shooter!

This is yous now...




Seek professional help ... Is Dr. Kevorkian available?

Thank U - yr/hh/multiple handles

All the handles gives One the privilege of 'voting' frequently, often. and repetitively - must be nice to be a DPST and steal elections with no conscience .
The Texas AG is prosecuting DPST voter fraud with felony charges - enjoy all your 'votes'!
A free cot with three meals a day awaits voter fraudsters in Texas!
daily exercise periods in the yard.

Free private time with bunkmates nightly!

The normal Predictably irrational deflection and name calling from the bots

There’s already a TON of very recent evidence that mail-in is a huge clusterfuck, this is why dems are for it. The bigger the clusterfuck, the better chance they have of changing the results.

I will guarantee you one thing. If Trump believed in any way that mail-in balloting was thought to be a positive for him rather than a negative, you would hear no complaints from him on the subject.

yep - DPST acolytes - blinded by the promises of open borders, reparations, free stuff, payments to stay home and not work, and taking over white folks homes, jobs, and bank accounts for OBLM,
terrorism by Ant-Fa and OBLM brownshirts in America. and a large dose of marxism

and destruction of representative democracy! This is teh DPST agenda. Not to mention soylent Green New Deal - a prescription for Big Brother take-0ver by AOC and Soros of every facet of American life under strict and mailed fist DPST control .






Poor DPST acolytes - apologists for and Deluded by endlesss LSM lies and propaganda.

And hate as a prime staple of what DPST politicians preach.



Vote hoey Nov 3 - the last vote ever in America!

You have to be registered to vote, oeb11.

are you as registered as your arsenal of WMDs?

In one short year, you have gone from Dr Kildare to Dr Kill everybody.

And you have the audacity to comment on the mental health of others?

HAHSHSHAHSSHAHAHHAHSHDHS!!!!!