A letter to the providers....

They advertise on different places to target different types of clients. So If you contact a provider through ECCIE should be prepared to pay ECCIE rates. Originally Posted by seXXXy Brooke

If you're charging different rates on different sites, I would expect clients to be confused. I'd also imagine you would get lots of calls from the bargain shoppers who scour the web for the ``best deal.''

If you are the type that feels more superior then us just because we do what we do you should all go crawl under a rock.

Since I no longer hobby and the only reason I'm on this board is because my best friend is a provider, I'm not only not that ``type,'' but I'm on her side.

If you're charging different rates on different sites, I would expect clients to be confused. I'd also imagine you would get lots of calls from the bargain shoppers who scour the web for the ``best deal.'' Originally Posted by npita

Agreed

...& in many cases not a bad business strategy (particularly on tour)..."If I can get x great. If I can get 2/3x I'm happy as well. Either way I'm not sitting around watching CSI or Law & Order reruns...."

...but just remember you exercised this strategy...expect to have to deal with the confusion...

Either way I'm not sitting around watching CSI or Law & Order reruns...." Originally Posted by atlcomedy

Unfortunately, some of are. lol

I advertise in many places, one gent told me, maybe I should charge the same in every place i place an ad. Well its not my thing. Either way if a gents wants to see you, he is coming. Most gents find my bp ad and call because the rates are cheaper. Also smart ladies cannot put all of our eggs in one basket, we would be broke if we only advertised in place.

Not every guy knows about hobby boards, some guys don't even want to bother with hobby boards.

On another note: what happen to this thread........yikes

If you're charging different rates on different sites, I would expect clients to be confused. I'd also imagine you would get lots of calls from the bargain shoppers who scour the web for the ``best deal.''

Since I no longer hobby and the only reason I'm on this board is because my best friend is a provider, I'm not only not that ``type,'' but I'm on her side. Originally Posted by npita

I feel like I should offer my two cents as well, because no one has voiced anything close to how I feel. I have been known to say, "Please refer to my homepage," and here is why:

Getting several messages a day with questions like, "What do I need to do to see you?" is extremely frustrating. I advertise in one place only, so when I know that he is literally one click away from answering his own question, I feel like these gents are not really interested in me in particular. We ladies all offer different services and different experiences, and I don't want to see anyone who doesn't care whom he sees. "Window-shoppers," we call them.

Actually, my wording of "What do I need to do to see you?" was far too kind. It's more like:

"hi waht do i need 2 do 2 c u 2day? heres my # 201-xxxx hit me up tonite thanx"
or just a plain
"hi sexy"

These guys didn't care enough about meeting me to read that I request two references, so why should I care about meeting them?

Now, in the defense of the hobbyists, if you send a professional, well thought-out message, I believe that the situation is different. I personally don't wonder why some of these men don't get back to me; often times, I am hoping they won't. I'm sure that none of you would try to talk to a lady like this, so this is probably irrelevant.

Also, please please pretty please don't lecture us on customer service principles. I am quite happy that I regularly fail to see the guys who either refuse to read the page they were just on or refuse to respect my wishes. [shrugs] I guess it's just how I roll. Then again, I know that my experience is limited; I have no idea what it's like to be on your end when some of the ladies do advertise different things in different places. I'm sure it could be pretty frustrating.

I don't know about all the rules and proper protocol etc, but I agree my time is valuable, I once had an Uncle send a Doctor and invoice of his hourly rate for keeping him waiting. Hopefully both providers and clients remember this when keeping appointments. I have been disappointed more than once setting watching the clock waiting for my provider only to cancel after I inquired, it is a real downer and gives the hobby a black eye. But I forgive/forget and live another day. And the cell phone, yes turn it off please. Pretend you are taking a nap, tanning. The only thing worse is a leaf blower lol...... Originally Posted by Crash Davis

I'm really trying to keep up with all the "nicknames and acryomyms" but what's a "Leafblower"?

I'm really trying to keep up with all the "nicknames and acryomyms" but what's a "Leafblower"? Originally Posted by emmersonbggns

LOL...ur cute... a leaf blower is a very loud instrument used to blow leaves. It's kinda distracting to hear one fired up outside when you are in the throws of passion...LOL

LOL...ur cute... a leaf blower is a very loud instrument used to blow leaves. It's kinda distracting to hear one fired up outside when you are in the throws of passion...LOL Originally Posted by M A X

Oh...I thought it might be something more interesting. When I'm in the throes of passion, I don't hear anything....except maybe "Honey I'm home"

LOL.....my goodness...that would be even worse than hearing a ringing phone or a leaf blower in this biz!!!!

Oh...I thought it might be something more interesting. When I'm in the throes of passion, I don't hear anything....except maybe "Honey I'm home" Originally Posted by emmersonbggns

lol

For what it’s worth, I think there are some good points that atlcomedy raises with an emphasis on his first line in the OP “…ladies that provide a great companionship experience. You are in the vast majority”. Having a little experience with customer service myself I have a couple of thoughts about some of the things that have been written in response to the OP. One of the rules I insist on in my little corner of the business world is “make it extremely easy for your customers to give you their money”. When I’m looking at a web site that doesn’t have a very clear “rates” section and I have to sort through multiple pages to find the magic numbers buried in the text I’ll admit to getting frustrated, I also know that it’s my choice to continue the search or exit out. When someone’s rates on one site are in conflict with her rates on another site (I’m not talking about specials, tour rates, or discounts) I get a bit confused and view the mixed message as a sign that there may be a potential for misunderstandings with other issues such as services provided or the agreed upon time of an appointment. I know that may seem like a stretch to some of you, but this is purely my perspective and I’m not in this for conflict or misunderstanding, not on this board and certainly not when I’m meeting with a provider.
For me, most of the other issues seem to boil down to common sense and respect. I try to be very respectful of other people and I think it is fair to expect the same in return. Whether the issue is showing up late (within reason), bad attitude, or anything else that doesn’t have a place during our appointment, if I think someone is disrespectful I simply choose not to allow them to be a part of my life in the future. Lesson learned, no anger, I wouldn’t even go so far as to say it’s their loss; I simply turn the page and move on. If they can make a living with behavior like that, more power to them.
I almost always send a thank you after an appointment and in turn I don’t mind getting a thank you from a lady after we’ve met, but I do realize the problems this could cause for some people. It’s generally considered a good business practice to let a quality customer know that you appreciate their business; it does seem that it would be wise for a lady to ask if it’s okay to send a thank you when you’re saying your goodbyes at the end of an appointment so the well intentioned gesture doesn’t backfire.
As far as screening is concerned, I use P411 for my initial contact if the person I want to meet is a member; otherwise I use email and Date-Check. In my initial contact I always offer to provide additional information if it helps to raise the comfort level of the person with whom I’m trying to schedule an appointment. I’ve never been asked for anything else besides a phone number.
Ultimately it’s my responsibility to do my homework, I am very discreet and safety is my top priority. I find that poor/conflicting communication of the important details can trump the most enticing pictures when I’m looking at web sites. If I contacted someone and she thought I came across as too vague or stupid to be worth her time, that’s cool, be honest with me and say so, we can both get on with our lives. I’m not fragile, you won’t hurt my feelings, I promise. When I welcome a lady at the door (I prefer outcalls) I want the only thing left to chance to be how far we can push the fun meter.
Having said all of that, it occurs to me that from my side of the equation I have a lot of resources and almost unlimited choices. Ladies, I won’t pretend to know what it takes to run your business. Ultimately I hope we have one thing in common, and that is that neither of us is willing to compromise our safety. I would not want to spend my time or my money with anyone who would put Ben Franklin before her personal safety…screen the hell out of me if you want; if I feel what you’re asking for is too invasive I’ll decline, but I will respect your decision not to meet with me.

imo, Alt was able to state in a few lines what a similar post from ladies perspective (Letter from Providers) took several pages to communicate. In both instances, it is a very small minoirity being addressed. Unfortunately, that minority never seems to read, reply or act on the suggestions.

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"hi waht do i need 2 do 2 c u 2day? heres my # 201-xxxx hit me up tonite thanx"
or just a plain
"hi sexy" Originally Posted by China Doll

I hate guys looking for a SW on these boards. I also dislike the self-glorified SW's joining these boards. And the guys that want that level of service should stick with other methods that better match what they're looking for.

China, I usually send a respectful and sincere email to a lady first to see if she has the time and interest in me at the time I have available and for the hours I desire. If her reply is thoughtful and indicates her interest, I respond with the information she needs for screening. (btw, you are sexy, but it's more than physical appearance)

I have been mulling over the "rates different on different sites" problem.
I have a site that if anyone asks for my rates........i.e. doesn't D.E.W. any homework, doesn't belong to this board or stupid enough to ask the rates on the phone..... I send them to the site.

Yes it is a little more than what I post here in my ads. But it does match what I post in all my other ads. Therefor the problem is that I give the guys on THIS site a little discount. So I guess the solution is for me to raise my rates HERE to solve the problem of having different rates around.

In the past years, I simply asked where they found me, that way I knew what rates they would have seen. And if they left the only discount that I offered I knew they knew about this board (or the other that crashed last year).

However, I want to make sure that all is not confusing to the gents and no way to I want to make things more difficult so I will reluctantly raise my ad here to conform with my site and other advertising.

I agree totally, sad you have to point these points out.

Leah Ireland

However, I want to make sure that all is not confusing to the gents and no way to I want to make things more difficult so I will reluctantly raise my ad here to conform with my site and other advertising. Originally Posted by Dagny D.E.W.

Great example of "be careful what you wish for"! But there is no faulting your logic.

I have also, recently, begun offering a preferred rate to eccie members. I was concerned that posting the offer in my ad would
cause confusion after it is no longer in effect, since I can't go back and edit or delete the ad as I can on other boards. So I decided to put the rate information in my showcase, and I provide a link. It's in the "bio" section. Yes, it requires clicking a link and reading a little bit of information....so not everyone will be willing to do this. It's just an idea others might want to consider.

I have another observation. Although I prefer Preferred 411 for screening, and wish everyone would join, the reality is that some can't or won't or just don't want to. That is fine, too, but it does take time to check references. How much time is a huge variable.

A frequent first contact message from someone I do not know...

"Hi this is Buddy. I saw your review and your pics are hot. Are you available tonight?"

Even if the answer is "yes", it is unlikely we will be able to meet that night. On the other hand, if I had received all of the information I need in the first message, and if I am at my computer and not using a pda, and if I hear back from the other girls promptly, there is at least a chance it could happen.

But how is a guy to know what I need? Seems to me it is very hit and miss...the "miss" being a missed appointment for all involved.

Anyway I have posted very specific Contact Instructions in my showcase. Again, it involves clicking a link and reading a little info. If you don't have P411, then you just copy the list of info into the message and fill in the blanks. So far only two people have used it, but I really think using it is easier for both of us.

As I type this I realize that maybe a form could be developed within the site...like the one used for reviews but for screening information to be sent to providers...me and my ideas

~~Casey