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He has to be one of the least respected Mods and is considered a joke even amongst some other Mods.
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Is this not an example of the problem raised by the OP? The authority for this statement is one person, asserting private knowlege of what others think, quoting these 'authorities' -- who do not speak for themselves -- to support his personal viewpoint that someone is 'a joke'. Arguing based on authority, and hidden authority at that, is not exactly taking the high road in a debate or discussion.

Is this not an example of the problem raised by the OP? The authority for this statement is one person, asserting private knowlege of what others think, quoting these 'authorities' -- who do not speak for themselves -- to support his personal viewpoint that someone is 'a joke'. Arguing based on authority, and hidden authority at that, is not exactly taking the high road in a debate or discussion. Originally Posted by davidsmith0123

Exactly! If folks would just stick to expressing their own thoughts and opinions instead of trying to pass them off as a majority opinion, I think we'd have a lot less drama and a helluva lot more fun here!

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I think we're ending up with a lot more causes than solutions to the problem. I'm actually trying to find ways to unify the community not keep it divided.

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Are the only ones offering possible steps toward solutions .

Exactly! If folks would just stick to expressing their own thoughts and opinions instead of trying to pass them off as a majority opinion, I think we'd have a lot less drama and a helluva lot more fun here!

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I like fun....Drama sucks ass.

I think we're ending up with a lot more causes than solutions to the problem. I'm actually trying to find ways to unify the community not keep it divided. Originally Posted by rockerrick

The problem with any solution proposed is that it requires at least a heavy majority to participate. As someone who has spent much time in a moderating capacity on many types of boards and communities much more brutal than this one has ever been, I can tell you that the "reality" is that many people do not treat their behavior on here as real. They can close their browser and go back to real life any time they want to. The problems arise when their emotions get in the way of their ability to do that. Unless you task the moderators with putting everyone on a really tight leash (which I don't recommend for a number of reasons), you're going to have people taking things personally, and retaliating in kind. To most people, their "board persona" is just that. It's an avatar with a smart mouth (or a dumb one depending on who you are talking about )). It has very little grounding in reality.

For someone like me, it is easy to ignore the crap. Maybe it's experience. Maybe it's maturity. Maybe it's that I am comfortable enough in my own skin not to give a rat's ass what someone's cartoon caricature said about me or someone I know (or don't know). I'm not worried about how "Cyrick" is viewed on these boards. That doesn't mean I am going to run around crapping on other people's posts, thoughts, reviews, etc... In fact, just the opposite. In my reality, this is a diversion, not a focal point. It's entertainment. Perspective is everything, and probably the most lacking quality of the drama posters.

As far as solutions? I would say if you feel the need to call someone out or make a personal attack, do it privately. Odds are, if you feel that strongly about your need to do it, you probably know them well enough to contact them directly. If you are doing it solely to hurt someone, think about why you are doing it and what it will ultimately accomplish (nothing).

Perspective is your friend. If you have the capacity to put things in the appropriate context and think a little bit about the bigger picture, life (real or fantasy) becomes much more enjoyable. Don't sweat the small stuff. It's not worth it.

Nice response Cyrick , I like yourself could care less about what somebody thinks about RR. However I stupidly said something critical about someone who was not able to do so. I'm kinda hoping others can learn from the mistakes of others. Unfortunately it usually requires personal experience to learn such lessons. Which do not feel good learning. Some folks let stuff roll off their backs , some reach out with kindness and make you feel like an ass, and some are so hurt they pull up stakes and split. The last two are the things I'm trying to point out to people so they will think about the consequences of their actions.

He has to be one of the least respected Mods and is considered a joke even amongst some other Mods.
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Is this not an example of the problem raised by the OP? The authority for this statement is one person, asserting private knowlege of what others think, quoting these 'authorities' -- who do not speak for themselves -- to support his personal viewpoint that someone is 'a joke'. Arguing based on authority, and hidden authority at that, is not exactly taking the high road in a debate or discussion. Originally Posted by davidsmith0123

Actually it is not a single person's thoughts. Yes I subscribe to the opinion but there ARE areas of this board, forums that people participate in that not all might have access to where it is more accepted to be able to voice opinions and there have been more than a few voiced over the last couple of years regarding him.

I applaud you that you think things need to change. But other than a brief LOL by the OP admitting his own leaning towards personal attacks, and some notable posters that think while there is a problem they aren't and have never been part of it, I doubt much will change.

History here is cyclical. Opinions, Attacked opinions, personal attacks, then post gets locked and 3-4 days pass then it starts right up again.

Let's just say I have high hopes and low expectations because some people are incapable of change. It's human nature. Time will tell and I hope I am wrong.

cheers!

Budman33 Shame on you, why come into my thread about the hope of being able to change the way things on here go , and bring the disagreement between you and Whispers ? It has nothing to do with you personally , other than being one of the members in community possibly in need of some reflection. There have been only a couple negative comments in this thread , Congratulations , now let's get back to positive thoughts here !

Budman may be negative, but he is right, I have been on these boards now for 14 years, same song different verse...

the problem is simple however it will never get fixed

Reason: a majority of this business is built on lies, deceit, more lies, and lies and $$$$$ is the reward for those lies and is the cost of those lies...

so when you have all these lies and $$$ happening then presto. you get hostile folks...

Give Peace a Chance
- John Lennon

Ev'rybody's talkin' 'bout
Bagism, Shagism, Dragism, Madism, Ragism, Tagism
This-ism, that-ism, ism ism ism
All we are saying is give peace a chance
All we are saying is give peace a chance

(C'mon)
Ev'rybody's talkin' 'bout
Minister, Sinister, Banisters and Canisters,
Bishops, Fishops, Rabbis, and Pop Eyes, Bye bye, Bye byes
All we are saying is give peace a chance
All we are saying is give peace a chance

(Let me tell you now)
Ev'rybody's talkin' 'bout
Revolution, Evolution, Masturbation, Flagellation, Regulation,
Integrations, mediations, United Nations, congratulations
All we are saying is give peace a chance
All we are saying is give peace a chance

Ev'rybody's talkin' 'bout
John and Yoko, Timmy Leary, Rosemary,
Tommy Smothers, Bobby Dylan, Tommy Cooper,
Derek Taylor, Norman Mailer, Alan Ginsberg, Hare Krishna
Hare Hare Krishna
All we are saying is give peace a chance
All we are saying is give peace a chance
(Repeat 'til the tape runs o

Thanks Chuckles , but that's actually the last
Lennon / Mc Cartney collaboration.

Bravo for the positivity especially on Mother's Day! I agree that we all need to reflect on why we react the way we do to the way others choose to express their thoughts and/or feelings, but the simple truth is that it's human nature to be unfriendly and judgemental at times....people just need to be reminded that it's not always necessary to share those thoughts/feelings with others no matter how insightful they think it might be.

Agree to disagree without verbally assaulting each other... people on here are , cultured, caring, intelligent, Rich, poor. There are Idiots, keyboard warriors, socially inept indiviguals.... Their opinions while contemptuos are not going to be changed, regardless of power point presentations of their "misguided opinion".. Let it be, move on to something more constructive. Originally Posted by Metal Smith

* there are idiots! and IGNORANCE breeds

While I am all for coming together and being kind and accepting, I am not a pacifist (in the non-violent sense).

Naturally when you live life you must examine life.
Somethings just aren't pleasant.
Sometimes you have to be aggressive when meet with these unpleasantries.
That's just life.