show me an example of democrats governing.This is a post about the GOP- not a whataboutism for the democrats. I love how you-all decide to re-direct the conversation from the uncomfortable title of the "GOP Sits on it's hands"
we'll wait. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
There are plenty of adults in the room . But unfortunately they are too afraid of what will happen to them if they choose to compromise. If the Republican center had the courage to work with Democrats we could have a real power sharing arrangement. I'm sure there are a number of things we could agree on if they weren't afraid of being primaried next election or worse, being called a rino and waiting for some nut to show up at their house with a gun to kill them or their family members.Primaried, RINO, Violence-...MAGA
Congress - Gabby Giffords - January 8, 2011 Shot in the head
Congress - Steve Scalise - June 14, 2017 Shot in the hip.
Senate - Rand Paul - November 3, 2017 Assaulted by his neighbor.
Vice President - Mike Pence - January 6th 2021 Rioters stormed the capitol and threatened hanging.
Congress - Paul Pelosi - October 28, 2022 Assaulted in his home with a hammer.
Congress - Angie Craig - February 9, 2023 - Assaulted in an elevator. Originally Posted by txdot-guy
There are plenty of adults in the room . But unfortunately they are too afraid of what will happen to them if they choose to compromise. If the Republican center had the courage to work with Democrats we could have a real power sharing arrangement. I'm sure there are a number of things we could agree on if they weren't afraid of being primaried next election or worse, being called a rino and waiting for some nut to show up at their house with a gun to kill them or their family members.I mostly agree with your first paragraph, although I'm not sure whether a functional House of Representatives is better than a dysfunctional House. The federal politicians often do more harm than good. Also I don't believe the risk of death factors into Republican politicians decisions. Like you say, the risk of being primaried is their big concern.
Congress - Gabby Giffords - January 8, 2011 Shot in the head
Congress - Steve Scalise - June 14, 2017 Shot in the hip.
Senate - Rand Paul - November 3, 2017 Assaulted by his neighbor.
Vice President - Mike Pence - January 6th 2021 Rioters stormed the capitol and threatened hanging.
Congress - Paul Pelosi - October 28, 2022 Assaulted in his home with a hammer.
Congress - Angie Craig - February 9, 2023 - Assaulted in an elevator. Originally Posted by txdot-guy
I mostly agree with your first paragraph, although I'm not sure whether a functional House of Representatives is better than a dysfunctional House. The federal politicians often do more harm than good. Also I don't believe the risk of death factors into Republican politicians decisions. Like you say, the risk of being primaried is their big concern. Originally Posted by TinyAccording to Mitt Romney's upcoming memoir he talks about the fear that some senators felt after January 6th for their and their families safety. Romney himself spends $5,000 a day since the riot to cover private security for his family.
I'm not sure what you're getting at with the list of injured politicians. Scalise's shooter was a Democrat. I don't believe the assaults on Rand Paul and Angie Craig had anything to do with politics. Rather their attackers were nutty. From the statistics I've seen, Democrats represent a higher % of convicted criminals than Republicans. Originally Posted by TinyThe point is that violence is escalating in our political climate. I think it's more on the right than the left but it's there all the same. If you look at the wiki page below it shows the last time a politician was killed or wounded in the US due to political violence, before Gabbie Giffords in 2011, was Robert Kennedy in 1968.
The point is that violence is escalating in our political climate. I think it's more on the right than the left...Spoken like a liberal... you don't want to let facts get in the way of your narrative.
My observations on political violence and the resulting issues it causes are certainly anecdotal (ie I don't have proof of causation) but it certainly seems that violent rhetoric is much more common and much more extreme since the rise of the Tea Party in 2009 and Trump's tweets and hate rhetoric since 2015. Originally Posted by txdot-guy
According to Mitt Romney's upcoming memoir he talks about the fear that some senators felt after January 6th for their and their families safety. Romney himself spends $5,000 a day since the riot to cover private security for his family.Fair enough. I strongly disagree with the characterization of the Tea Party movement, as it was originally constituted in 2009, as being violent. It was all about financial responsibility. Here's the rant that started the movement btw,
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...aid-to-convict
It may not be the top concern for Senators and Congressmen but denying it's a factor is to deny the animosity that stems from some on the alt-left and the alt-right.
The point is that violence is escalating in our political climate. I think it's more on the right than the left but it's there all the same. If you look at the wiki page below it shows the last time a politician was killed or wounded in the US due to political violence, before Gabbie Giffords in 2011, was Robert Kennedy in 1968.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...nded_in_office
My observations on political violence and the resulting issues it causes are certainly anecdotal (ie I don't have proof of causation) but it certainly seems that violent rhetoric is much more common and much more extreme since the rise of the Tea Party in 2009 and Trump's tweets and hate rhetoric since 2015. Originally Posted by txdot-guy
According to Mitt Romney's upcoming memoir he talks about the fear that some senators felt after January 6th for their and their families safety. Romney himself spends $5,000 a day since the riot to cover private security for his family.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...aid-to-convict
It may not be the top concern for Senators and Congressmen but denying it's a factor is to deny the animosity that stems from some on the alt-left and the alt-right.
The point is that violence is escalating in our political climate. I think it's more on the right than the left but it's there all the same. If you look at the wiki page below it shows the last time a politician was killed or wounded in the US due to political violence, before Gabbie Giffords in 2011, was Robert Kennedy in 1968.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...nded_in_office
My observations on political violence and the resulting issues it causes are certainly anecdotal (ie I don't have proof of causation) but it certainly seems that violent rhetoric is much more common and much more extreme since the rise of the Tea Party in 2009 and Trump's tweets and hate rhetoric since 2015. Originally Posted by txdot-guy
cheney is a bitter old hag. she hasn't been right on anything. she just wishes so. Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm
This is a FEATURE, not a BUG.Oh. So the repubs position is to cut their nose to spite their face? What a wonderful policy to operate a government.
Boo hoo, the government can't pass any new laws making Americans criminals, it can't send MORE money to Ukraine, it can't get get a budget passed... whoops it hasn't done that properly in over a decade either. Originally Posted by texassapper
Republicans in Congress are the gang that can't shoot straight. Sad how far the GOP has fallen. Not a single adult in the room. Originally Posted by 1blackman1No joke. It is embarrassing to see them in a situation of their own doing. If they'd just muzzle their radical wing of mouth barfing members, things could be chugging along. But the party of family values and backing the blue chooses to follow people that give handys in theatres and condone the over throw of our goverment.
Republicans can't govern. Just a bunch of dummies. Originally Posted by 1blackman1
This has to be read using Red Foxxs voice. Originally Posted by texassapperLOL!
There are plenty of adults in the room . But unfortunately they are too afraid of what will happen to them if they choose to compromise. If the Republican center had the courage to work with Democrats we could have a real power sharing arrangement. I'm sure there are a number of things we could agree on if they weren't afraid of being primaried next election or worse, being called a rino and waiting for some nut to show up at their house with a gun to kill them or their family members.You forgot to say Pence was at the blessing of his boss
Congress - Gabby Giffords - January 8, 2011 Shot in the head
Congress - Steve Scalise - June 14, 2017 Shot in the hip.
Senate - Rand Paul - November 3, 2017 Assaulted by his neighbor.
Vice President - Mike Pence - January 6th 2021 Rioters stormed the capitol and threatened hanging.
Congress - Paul Pelosi - October 28, 2022 Assaulted in his home with a hammer.
Congress - Angie Craig - February 9, 2023 - Assaulted in an elevator. Originally Posted by txdot-guy
i'm shocked. you really believe this nonsense? are you really saying all that was because those "evil republicans" won't compromise?As of today, this country hasn't seen proof of it.
nonsense. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
show me an example of democrats governing.Your idea of governing is not what the majority of the voting public is.
we'll wait. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
As of today, this country hasn't seen proof of it.
you are right! for once. the republicans should never compromise with the "demonrat socialist party"
BAHHAAAAAAA
Your idea of governing is not what the majority of the voting public is. Originally Posted by Precious_b