Classy Metal Whores Thread

I agree that Biblically and in most societies prostitution is frowned upon and those who partake are also frowned upon. (And it is still illegal here in Upstate.)

As you put it: "..hooking itself is shameful in a way that we generally won't even talk about it.."

The very sad part is that I feel that men who partake in the hobby and who have vowed themselves to a woman who refuses to sexually fill her vows is just as shameful. Shame on him and shame on her and shame on me, too.

I never understand why the wife who fails her sexual / emotional duties is labeled as wholesome. I imagine it has something to do with going to church and kids and cooking and cleaning and working a non adult oriented job.

The definitions of wholesome and acceptable vary from person to person.

To most any person whores are simply whores - not worthy people. My belief is that people are worthy and can strive for their own personal growth. I may not agree with their direction of growth, but I respect that it is theirs.

One of my favorites to ponder is the profound thought of ownership. I own my own ways of life. Sometimes I would rather not, and sometimes I change things. However - no matter what - I own it.

If a woman is okay sexually denying her partner she owns that. If she feels guilt or no guilt she still owns it.

The same for the fella.

The same for the escorts.

We all own our own.

The world is not black and white although society has for since forever in time believed that if lines of black and white are defined that society will be better. And perhaps this is partially true. And I am a part of society as a whole and it disgusts many to even admit that. Originally Posted by SweetElizabeth

If one is to think of hooking as shameful. Than myself being single, is that not also if not as bad as married guy? MMM unless its more open and both can cheat.

now one utr I see is married and hubby not into it being ok. Yet he knew before hand what she was, and it would be hard to get her to stop. I do not see her as shameful but he was a fool. As hard as he try's to stop her. He will not let her leave.

...... But then I see Hillary as whore of another type. Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

I find that there are enough benefits to playing with hooks vs playing with regular females, that by and large I prefer hooks. Which group lies more is up in the air to me. I find quite a few hooks become possessive, try to perpetrate the love con, or whatever else in an attempt to flat-out chisel money, and I'm turned off by this.

Regular women tend to chisel in a more subtle manner, which could be a euphemism for "sneakier".

Really the difference for me is that hooks are so much more easily dispensed with after their shelf life expires. Originally Posted by Next Best Thing

Lol "regular" woman. lol I wasn't aware their were irregulars.

I am sure that there are some divorced broken and maybe $broke men out there that wished that their wife had been more easily dispensed with after her shelf life expired.

I have witnessed many a whore that are not prostitutes - and i do not limit the word whore only to a woman or a person. I believe more in the "act of being a whore."

For example: a woman who has an affair with a married man is sinning just as much as I am as an escort in my moral compass.

And this list goes on and on and on and is world wide to me.

The women having the affair with the married guy is out of line. The married guy is more out of line.

That's how I see that specific situation. But there could be enough backstory in a situation like that to turn the tables in a shockingly complete way, and nobody looking in from the outside is going to have the insight to accurately assess.

People are fucking complicated enough when they're by themselves or around one other person. Turn them loose on one another in a large, unmanageable situation and they're capable of anything.

crap I have to go but enjoying this chat with both SE and NBT
will be back
so carry on please

Yes, a lot of contradiction and hypocrisy in the way questionable and/or morally ambiguous behaviors are judged. There isn't likely ever going to be a quantifiable measure for this type of thing. Subjective by nature, but absolutely a foregone conclusion in the eyes of the judgmental. No?

If I were running around guessing, I would say that in large part the specific issue that the majority of people object to hooking is that the hooks are out there fucking strangers in an indiscriminate way. So fucking, or not fucking, one individual that a person is involved in a traditional relationship is OK and has the stamp of approval from the majority of folks, but fucking swarms of strangers, one after the other, for money, is not. Originally Posted by Next Best Thing

I think it is mostly the hypocrisy that is toughest to measure. As you stated that the act of "immoral" behaviors have already been defined by society, and the specific issue and your example was excellent.

People are fucking complicated enough when they're by themselves or around one other person.... Originally Posted by Next Best Thing

Are you married? Do you have a significant other? Do you have children? Are you a Christian/ have religion? Can you openly express to everybody you know that you hobby?

If your wife /SO breaks her physical sexual vows to you is that a sin? Is it wrong for you to set that example to your children? Do you feel you are disobeying God/ your religion? Why would you or not state the fact you hobby to people?

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Welcome to the hobby.

Canada may welcome your frame of mind more than (at least me) here in upstate NY. Also, I'm from PA, thanks.

:-D

It sounds to me like you enjoy stirring the pot in an area that you must not hobby in.

Ever hear the expression pot calling the kettle black?

I suggest reading some Nessmuk; It might enlighten your attitude.

Happy Turkey Day - I can name at least one Turkey I know of. Originally Posted by SweetElizabeth

I am also curious as to why you choose to hobby in depth in the US when you claim you are in Canada? Is it that you like to cross the US border? You must be aware of the repercussions of doing so and getting busted - for both the woman and man, yes?

All things considered... I'd be afraid of seeing you with without like 6 times the screening I already do.

And I don't appreciate the "bashing" of a provider chosen out of your array. Seems like you must have a long list of providers.

The one you chose is quite vocal and may slip up if you played your cards properly.

Damned poker anyway...

Last game I played was great until he knew he was going to lose and tried to kiss me. UM hello?? No kissing at the poker table. lol

How about if I was a stripper and the game was loaded and I dropped my panties on the pot after being pushed away by the apparent winning hand holder? (who had such a straight face lol)

What's the deal with you and Upstate when you reside in Canad and why do you attack a lady that is accessible to your border cross?

GOBC ??

That's why I am afraid of the GOBC with the gargoyle wings.....

I like the established and utmost honest down to earth realistic hobbyists.

Quit bashing the women here in Upstate.

It is what it is. IMHO You sound like a FED to me or worse. Originally Posted by SweetElizabeth

You are working on a lot of assumptions. Ontario is a province, but also a lake, a city, a street. Not sure location is relevant. You also make a lot of assumptions about my hobbying, not sure what to tell you there. I'm sure the lady you assume I'm talking about, whom I did not disparage, I merely used concepts from another thread, is a fine person and provider, but she is not one I'd consider at her rates. I'm not sure I'd move on her in a traditional setting. But it doesn't matter. You are right to assume I was kicking tires and rabble rousing because I felt a mod closed a thread because he fears discourse, so I resumed the same concepts elsewhere. I'm glad it turned into a good convo for you and OSD and a few others.

Classy is relative. Penis Leerie is not a classy name. If I were going for classy that wouldn't have been my pick. If I were going to see you, I could pass screening easy as pie. Maybe I could be a Jack Feng-shui or a normal bob for the day. Whatever you need babe.

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Classy is relative. Penis Leerie is not a classy name. If I were going for classy that wouldn't have been my pick. If I were going to see you, I could pass screening easy as pie. Maybe I could be a Jack Feng-shui or a normal bob for the day. Whatever you need babe. Originally Posted by Penis_Leerie

mmmmm SE and I would not enjoy each other I bet.
but if I tried to slip by her screening then reviewed
That would not be classy
it would be fucking funny
but not classy

I imagine he is seeking GOBC acceptance.



Liz Originally Posted by SweetElizabeth

Sounds like you aren't a fan of the GOBC....
Why is that?

Start anywhere.

I don't think a classy whore sounds very fun or exciting..
Sexy maybe, but a classy whore it seems like u would have to be all prim and proper with?

You are working on a lot of assumptions. Ontario is a province, but also a lake, a city, a street. Not sure location is relevant. You also make a lot of assumptions about my hobbying, not sure what to tell you there. I'm sure the lady you assume I'm talking about, whom I did not disparage, I merely used concepts from another thread, is a fine person and provider, but she is not one I'd consider at her rates. I'm not sure I'd move on her in a traditional setting. But it doesn't matter. You are right to assume I was kicking tires and rabble rousing because I felt a mod closed a thread because he fears discourse, so I resumed the same concepts elsewhere. I'm glad it turned into a good convo for you and OSD and a few others.

Classy is relative. Penis Leerie is not a classy name. If I were going for classy that wouldn't have been my pick. If I were going to see you, I could pass screening easy as pie. Maybe I could be a Jack Feng-shui or a normal bob for the day. Whatever you need babe. Originally Posted by Penis_Leerie

He didn't close it for his reasons I asked him to. Thanks for keeping it going. I truely appreciate it.

Very good discussion though has resulted I suppose.

He didn't close it for his reasons I asked him to. Thanks for keeping it going. I truely appreciate it.

Very good discussion though has resulted I suppose. Originally Posted by Amber Does

Don't stress babe, imo and I'm sure a lot of others your sexy regardless of being classy or not!! Classy ain't much fun anyhow lol

hay ben dover or Paulie
I meet this chick some were errrrr just can't remember where
LOL not sure I want to remember even if it was a fun time errr I think

My question
and have seen many pic's of a lady I know well
and the ass in the avatar I posted I have seen once I think
errr WTF
why is it the ass of some gals look bigger in a pic than seem in real ???
covered or not

mmmm anyways and topic errr nice post AmberDoes

Sounds like you aren't a fan of the GOBC....
Why is that?

Start anywhere. Originally Posted by Paulwantsya

http://www.sweetelizabeth.com/musings_38.html

Very good discussion though has resulted I suppose. Originally Posted by Amber Does

Now that is class; Taking the high road and holding your head regardless of Gargoyle Wings that were shown to you.

ok read link
ahhhh some agree some errr wtf
will reread latter
but thanks for the link

Sounds like you aren't a fan of the GOBC....
Why is that? Originally Posted by Paulwantsya

http://www.sweetelizabeth.com/musings_38.html Originally Posted by SweetElizabeth

ok read link Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

Liz demonstrates how adored she is, but where's the gobc disdain?

"... I wanted to let you know you made a difference for me … years ago. At the time ... I was going through a divorce. I was lonely and felt terribly unattractive.


We spent time together, and for most of that time we just laid.... Laughing and talking. That and your kind, gentle touch was just what the doctor ordered.

... Shortly after that, I was back in the real world … living a normal life.

But there is no doubt about it. It was a dark and painful time in my life, and you touched me with light and sunshine. As a result, that sunshine spilled over onto my kids and my friends and into my future.

No kidding.

So, for what it's worth, thank you. You shape reality with your idealism. And the world is a better place because of you.

At least my world is."