Jeffrey Epstein

^^^ There you go again!

Look... if you want to beat up trumpy for being crude and creepy, be my guest. But don't use innuendo to make the ridiculous leap to RAPE or to anything Epstein did. Then you are just lying and slandering.

Case in point: "What about when he was caught on tape pretty much bragging about it?"

Trump never bragged about raping anybody - and you know that. The 2005 Access Hollywood tape caught him saying "grab 'em by the pussy" which, if he actually did it, would be sexual assault at worst. But keep blurring the lines, himzert. Keep insinuating that it's RAPE or even on a par with Epstein's (forbidden topic) and hope you get away with it and nobody bothers to correct you and explain the difference, right?

I wasn’t aware though that the Political Forum at ECCIE had debunked the rape accusation. Well, holy shit. Congratulations guys. Let’s alert the media. Originally Posted by himzert

No need to alert the media, they tried their damnedest to make that one stick. And you're the one who brought it up as "evidence" to smear Trump, not me. You obviously didn't do your homework. You just saw a headline somewhere and tossed it out here - because you WANT to believe it and you know others who don't bother to check the facts may believe it too if you keep recirculating it.

Yes, he bragged about sexual assault. Yes, he’s been accused of it. Yes, he’s been on record lusting after underage girls. Yes he’s been sued for it. And yes, he used to hang out socially with Epstein. Keep telling yourself it’s just crazy fantasy to think he might be implicated in this more.

No need to alert the media, they tried their damnedest to make that one stick. And you're the one who brought it up as "evidence" to smear Trump, not me. You obviously didn't do your homework. You just saw a headline somewhere and tossed it out here - because you WANT to believe it and you know others who don't bother to check the facts may believe it too if you keep recirculating it. Originally Posted by lustylad

Facts? Coming from you, a person who posts a thread from the political forum here as proof, that’s rich. I’ll have a good laugh about you trying that one for a while. “Hey, the sleuths at ECCIE just proved it false.” Hope you shared your findings with Giuliani and Sekulow. 😂

Trump would never harm an underage girl. Originally Posted by lustylad

And you know this how? This is just your hunch. Not a fact. My hunch is that I wouldn't put him above committing any despicable act. He's already proven to be a piece of shit.

Also it's funny how you try to defend him by saying that what he said only indicated that he would commit sexual assault and not full blown rape. Wow. What a great guy.

Facts? Coming from you, a person who posts a thread from the political forum here as proof, that’s rich. I’ll have a good laugh about you trying that one for a while. “Hey, the sleuths at ECCIE just proved it false.” Hope you shared your findings with Giuliani and Sekulow. �� Originally Posted by himzert

I gave you the courtesy of opening and reading your link. You obviously didn't provide me with the same courtesy. If you had, you would have noticed the Eccie post to which I referred you has reprints of 3 separate stories from The Daily Beast, the Guardian (U.K.), and Jezebel. They were the real "sleuths". And they're all supposed to be left-leaning publications/blogs.

They did a good job of debunking Katie Johnson's unfounded underage rape allegation against Trump. And exposing how the people representing and encouraging Ms. Johnson to pursue the lawsuit are even sleazier than Jeffrey Epstein.

It's unfortunate that you feel compelled by your overpowering Trump hatred to stoop so low that you would regurgitate this false and slanderous accusation 3 years later. And that's no laughing matter.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-...on-each-other?

https://jezebel.com/the-source-pushi...e-w-1783270283

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...its-norm-lubow

Yes, he bragged about sexual assault. Yes, he’s been accused of it. Yes, he’s been on record lusting after underage girls. Yes he’s been sued for it. And yes, he used to hang out socially with Epstein. Keep telling yourself it’s just crazy fantasy to think he might be implicated in this more. Originally Posted by himzert

I would take issue with your spin on everything, but go ahead and spin your heart out. Just don't accuse him of rape without credible evidence. That's when your "spinning" crosses the line into a lie. Or a fantasy, if you prefer.

And what does "might be implicated" mean? There you go again - smear, insinuation, guilt by association. Your favorite tactics. But only applied against Republicans.

And you know this how? This is just your hunch. Not a fact. My hunch is that I wouldn't put him above committing any despicable act. He's already proven to be a piece of shit.

Also it's funny how you try to defend him by saying that what he said only indicated that he would commit sexual assault and not full blown rape. Wow. What a great guy. Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

It's called presumption of innocence. It's the bedrock of our legal system and our ideas of fair play. If Trump has "already proven to be a POS" then why do you need to make up new offenses like rape or Epstein's (forbidden topic)? Just concentrate on what you already have and can prove. Like having consensual, extra-marital sex with a porn star and a Playmate. OMG, nobody on Eccie would ever approve of that!

Sexual assault can be very serious and traumatizing. It can also be stretched to mean a lot of things, including unwanted kisses, which is apparently what many of Trump's accusers have alleged. A masher is not the same as a rapist. But I can understand why, if you are consumed with hatred of the guy, you would try to conflate the two.

I’m done with your stupidity other than to say I did read some of that. Other than speculating a person possibly involved in promoting the case worked for Jerry Springer, not sure where you get debunked out of that. But hey, you made up your mind already.

I’m done with your stupidity other than to say I did read some of that. Other than speculating a person possibly involved in promoting the case worked for Jerry Springer, not sure where you get debunked out of that. But hey, you made up your mind already. Originally Posted by himzert

Give me a break. You libs were so desperate to get rid of trumpy that you illegally spied on his campaign, paid for a bogus dossier written by Putin's agents and filled with lies about him, and then wasted over 2 years and $36 million in a wild goose chase looking for collusion by the Trump campaign while ignoring the collusion lying in plain sight on the Clinton side.

Yet you think nobody on the left would have jumped on/funded a lawsuit alleging underage sex by Trump if it was at all credible during the runup to the 2016 election?

My mind is open. Yours is closed. You turn our bedrock principles on their head. You believe in guilty unless proven innocent. For Kavanaugh. For Trump. For all Republicans. Guilt by smear and innuendo, not facts or evidence.

And you call me stupid?

I suspect that there are many people that know each of us and would describe is a "A great guy (or gal)" that dont know we are whore mongers or whores. So what is your point? Originally Posted by sjomonty

Hey monty, I know you're a monger and I still think you're a good guy.

Feel better now?

I'm neither a liberal or a demoncrat.
Just sayin'

Continue the squabble, I find it fascinating.

Lustylad,

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zrWoG8IckyE

The cognitive dissonance is astounding. I wasn’t aware though that the Political Forum at ECCIE had debunked the rape accusation. Well, holy shit. Congratulations guys. Let’s alert the media. Originally Posted by himzert

Originally Posted by berryberry

Yeah, I thought the thread topic was Epstein and his antics. It was hijacked into a bash Trump thread. If you want to talk politics, there’s a forum on ECCIE to do that. You can bash Trump 24/7 there. But the facts in the Epstein case will come in due time. I wouldn’t be suprised if prominent people from different walks of life that participated with Epstein. They will be exposed. Until then, it’s all bullshit.