"Karl Marx Was Right"

Where to begin. Firstly, I don't think humans are 'designed,' as you put it. As for phony constructs, yes, that's pretty much it. We have a need to know why we are here. Some of us chose to look to science for that answer. Others made up gods in order to explain things that we couldn't explain at the time. You can't say what a human would choose, outside of cultural or parental programming. That's an unanswerable question because inevitably, cultural influences will have to play a part. Liberty as chosen by whom? Your liberty might not look like mine. And you also present a false argument by presupposing that there are only two outcomes, servitude or freedom. Some would consider a lifelong 9-5 job a form of servitude on some level. You want to arrive at a simple answer and there just isn't one. Originally Posted by UnderConstruction

It sounds like you are advocating the establishment of a ruling class to make decisions for the rest of humanity. Am I correct?

Lusty, comedy just isnt your forte. I guess I should commend you for trying, but 90% of the time spent reading your posts is wading through your trying-too-hard-to-be-funny bullshit. You already cant communicate worth shit, makes it even harder you see? Just trying to help you out here. Seriously.

Also, seems like how you cant read worth shit either. Do you not know what "idealistically" means? look that up on dictionary.com and get back to me Originally Posted by shanm

No comedy intended. You are seriously fucked up. You need to do your homework on the Berlin Wall. Come back when you're done and tell us what happened. In the meantime, I will communicate to you again loudly and clearly. Per capita income in capitalist South Korea is 17 TIMES what it is in communist North Korea. There is no freedom in North Korea. If your comprehension remains stunted, then read the latest report of the UN Human Rights Commission:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rape-tor...-human-rights/

And I am not speaking "idealistically". I am speaking of reality. Facts on the ground. Germany and Korea. Communism in action versus capitalism in action. Deal with it, punk.

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No comedy intended. You are seriously fucked up. I will communicate to you again loudly and clearly. Per capita income in capitalist South Korea is 17 TIMES what it is in communist North Korea. There is no freedom in North Korea. If your comprehension remains stunted, then read the latest report of the UN Human Rights Commission:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rape-tor...-human-rights/

And I am not speaking "idealistically". I am speaking of reality. Facts on the ground. Communism in action versus capitalism in action. Deal with it, punk.

. Originally Posted by lustylad

At least you toned down the "hilarity" in this one. See? much better.

I was not defending one OR the other. I never said socialism was better OR vice versa. Now, you would only understand this if you had actually passed the third grade. I merely explained what communism and capitalism are. Apparently your butt-boys on here are just as illiterate as you are. Capitalism might be the lesser of two evils, but it is still the root of the problems in this country. And no, nothing capitalism provides currently can be likened to freedom. It's a means of control, just like communism. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." You see? that's me being idealistic right there. You learned a new word today.
And besides, you can't judge something from when it's practiced in a horrible way like the socialism in Russia or North Korea. You should go read the "wikipedia" article to enlighten yourself just a little on what socialism actually stands for.

Now, I'm sure that went through your head as if I had said "the United States should be a communist/socialist country!". Frankly, your idiocy and ignorance are the least of my worries. You are but a small fish in that giant Idiot pond you swim in.

At least you toned down the "hilarity" in this one. See? much better.

I was not defending one OR the other. I never said socialism was better OR vice versa. Now, you would only understand this if you had actually passed the third grade. I merely explained what communism and capitalism are. Apparently your butt-boys on here are just as illiterate as you are. Capitalism might be the lesser of two evils, but it is still the root of the problems in this country. And no, nothing capitalism provides currently can be likened to freedom. It's a means of control, just like communism. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." You see? that's me being idealistic right there. You learned a new word today.
And besides, you can't judge something from when it's practiced in a horrible way like the socialism in Russia or North Korea. You should go read the "wikipedia" article to enlighten yourself just a little on what socialism actually stands for.

Now, I'm sure that went through your head as if I had said "the United States should be a communist/socialist country!". Frankly, your idiocy and ignorance are the least of my worries. You are but a small fish in that giant Idiot pond you swim in. Originally Posted by shanm

Are you sure this isn't WPF? He's just as clueless.

Are you sure this isn't WPF? He's just as clueless. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

^Proof that you are just another "Grubered Odumbo Minion" spewing dipshit.
Aren't you the one who's constantly bitching and moaning about shit like "crony capitalism" and the government sticking probes up our asses? If anything, what I said is more in line with the paranoid shit you post every day, you senile OLD fuck!

Are you sure this isn't WPF? He's just as clueless. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I think you're referring to WTF. That poor soul has resorted to a bleak life in a convalescent home for the moronically insane. He spends all his time indulging in a strange activity that nobody but he understands. In fact he refers to it as the Eccie shuffle. He is so proud of his accomplishment he made a video. I came across the article in a Psychology Today Mag at a mechanic shop while my car was getting an oil change. I know you guys were close so I thought you might want to know, lol.

Jim


https://youtu.be/IEjVAiSc8ZY

At least you toned down the "hilarity" in this one. See? much better.

I was not defending one OR the other. I never said socialism was better OR vice versa. Now, you would only understand this if you had actually passed the third grade. I merely explained what communism and capitalism are. Apparently your butt-boys on here are just as illiterate as you are. Capitalism might be the lesser of two evils, but it is still the root of the problems in this country. And no, nothing capitalism provides currently can be likened to freedom. It's a means of control, just like communism. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." You see? that's me being idealistic right there. You learned a new word today.
And besides, you can't judge something from when it's practiced in a horrible way like the socialism in Russia or North Korea. You should go read the "wikipedia" article to enlighten yourself just a little on what socialism actually stands for.

Now, I'm sure that went through your head as if I had said "the United States should be a communist/socialist country!". Frankly, your idiocy and ignorance are the least of my worries. You are but a small fish in that giant Idiot pond you swim in. Originally Posted by shanm

Each post you make leaves you flailing deeper in the muck of your own stupidity. You are the one who is comprehension-impaired. I quoted you correctly. You said communism and capitalism are equally unfree. That is the warped, libtarded thinking you are afflicted with. If you view the sweep of history and fail to see the amazing contrast between the rapid human progress achieved under capitalism and the enormous human suffering inflicted under communism, then you are beyond help, hope or redemption. You also abused Ben Franklin's liberty v. safety quote. It is completely out of context here. Please stop embarrassing yourself. Your ignorance is making Ben spin in his grave:

http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/14/how...y-vs-security/


But by far your stupidest comment is this one:

“...besides, you can't judge something from when it's practiced in a horrible way like the socialism in Russia or North Korea.”

Oh no? Why not? On what basis should we judge if not by what happens in practice? Don't you believe in the scientific method? What good is your “idealistic” utopia if it always falls apart in practice? (And by the way, only someone who is woefully unread and under-educated would consider "idealistic" to be a "new word".)

I have an idea, shammytard. Why don't you tell the families and survivors of the millions of North Koreans and tens of millions of Russians who died from starvation, firing squads or the gulag - “Ooops, sorry! Don't blame communism, some guys just didn't practice it right!” And lemme know how they respond, ok?

But perhaps you have a point, shammytard. If only the North Koreans had implemented communism correctly, then maybe today the South Koreans would be only 10 times wealthier, instead of 17 times.

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It sounds like you are advocating the establishment of a ruling class to make decisions for the rest of humanity. Am I correct? Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

He's just trying to confuse and cover his retreat with blather. Scratch a liberal and you find a fascist.

Lookee here, folks! Another fine example of warped, libtarded thinking of the most perverse kind! No real difference between communism and capitalism! According to shammytard, it's sorta like ordering a Miller or a Budweiser. The beer ads look good, but both taste lousy so it really doesn't matter which one you choose.

I don't know whether shammytard is too young or historically illiterate to remember the Berlin Wall. Can someone help me out here? I mean, what was all the fuss about back in 1961-1989? Who built the wall in the first place - the communists or the capitalists? Was it erected to stop people from fleeing to the communist East or the capitalist West? What does that tell you about where freedom flourished and where it was suppressed? It's called voting with your feet! Yet shammytard thinks they were both the same. According to his libtard revisionist history of the Cold War, neither side allowed us to be "more free than the other". The only cure for this type of demented and delusional thinking is to lock shammytard in a room with Pink Floyd's "The Wall" playing over and over at 80 decibels while documentary footage of East Germans being shot to death fleeing to the West runs in a continuous loop on a video screen. Then after a month or so of this Audio-Visual re-education therapy, we will fly shammytard to the Korean 38th Parallel at the Panmunjom checkpoint, march him out and give him a choice to go north or south. Don't tell shammytard, but in the north they don't have Miller OR Budweiser!

Shammytard, this bud's for you:

Guess which Korea is free and which is a Stalinist dictatorship?

Guess which Korea eats and which one starves?




. Originally Posted by lustylad

+1

Capitalism never promised that everyone would be equally successful, but it has, nevertheless, raised the standard of living for the greatest number of people. Meanwhile, communism has never once delivered on its promise.

It sounds like you are advocating the establishment of a ruling class to make decisions for the rest of humanity. Am I correct? Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

How do you get that from what I said? No, you're not correct. I'd love to watch you undergo a Rorschach test. I bet everything looks like the big, bad wolf to you. Jesus.

He's just trying to confuse and cover his retreat with blather. Scratch a liberal and you find a fascist. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Scratch a republican and you'll find the same fascist, just a different set of rules. Same oppression, different day. You're so afraid of this perceived persecution that you live in a cage of fear you've constructed inside your own mind. You provide nothing to society. You provide nothing to those around you. You're incapable of compassion, love, truth or any quality that enhances the human experience. You're dead inside.

I think you're referring to WTF. That poor soul has resorted to a bleak life in a convalescent home for the moronically insane. He spends all his time indulging in a strange activity that nobody but he understands. In fact he refers to it as the Eccie shuffle. He is so proud of his accomplishment he made a video. I came across the article in a Psychology Today Mag at a mechanic shop while my car was getting an oil change. I know you guys were close so I thought you might want to know, lol.

Jim


https://youtu.be/IEjVAiSc8ZY Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

His title is WikiPostingFraud. He was caught copying from Wikipedia and pretending those were his words. It's nice to know what he's up to these days. Thanks.

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

. Originally Posted by lustylad

I was wrong about you Lusty! You can be funny. All you have to do is write these posts and show us how stupid you really are!

Because, apparently, even after I write posts such as these:

I was not defending one OR the other. Originally Posted by shanm

Capitalism might be the lesser of two evils Originally Posted by shanm

you still believe I am trying to defend communism or say that it is better than capitalism.
I guess reading isn't as easy as it seems to me!

Can I call it or what?

Now, I'm sure that went through your head as if I had said "the United States should be a communist/socialist country!". Originally Posted by shanm

By the way, the GDP of "democratic" Pakistan is around $800. Maybe that will finally finally help you learn what "idealistically" means?

Shammytard, take a deep breath, you are obviously having a meltdown. I won't make you squirm again by posting the actual quotes which you keep desperately trying to walk back or disavow. After you have recovered from your meltdown, scurry down to the local library and read up on the Cold War and the history of the Berlin Wall. Then come back and tell us what you learned. At that point, we MAY treat you like an adult who has lived in, studied, experienced and gained an understanding of the real world.