GFE Lite: What's Your Preference

Indeed..I get what you are saying...I have had my fair share of guys say "bbw isnt usually my thing but..."..I realize some are willing to give up some things in exchange for others..but something as simple as kissing or bbbj..isnt the same as "well she dont swallow but sucks good dick" type compromise

I do offer this thought..if guys quit compromising and accepted nothing less that expected service would it not either force ladies to step it up or find different employment? Originally Posted by BBWDeAnna

Absolutely. But, as you've undoubtedly noticed, on the whole we are not so great at resisting temptation. Certainly I'm not. It doesn't make your point any less valid though.

Genuine imitation GFE. Kind of like that 'butter' they use on theater popcorn. Originally Posted by Ginger Doll

Nice one!

I would also venture a guess that being in Arkansas has much to do with what certain guys will accept or put up with to see new girls.


Try this poll in say Dallas or Houston and see how different the results are.

I would also venture a guess that being in Arkansas has much to do with what certain guys will accept or put up with to see new girls.


Try this poll in say Dallas or Houston and see how different the results are. Originally Posted by BK

I've never hobbied in those areas but I'm sure you're right. I expect that being in an area with that many providers and that much competition would change one's perspective a great deal.

Indeed..I get what you are saying...I have had my fair share of guys say "bbw isnt usually my thing but..."..I realize some are willing to give up some things in exchange for others..but something as simple as kissing or bbbj..isnt the same as "well she dont swallow but sucks good dick" type compromise

I do offer this thought..if guys quit compromising and accepted nothing less that expected service would it not either force ladies to step it up or find different employment? Originally Posted by BBWDeAnna

It would also drastically reduce the already small pool of options we have.

Let's face it, some are here for a major league GFE experience and some are just here to get their dick wet any way possible. Bc of that, some bad providers will find ways to eat.

Good Lord, some of you are way the hell over analyzing this. As Ginger said way earlier, you are either GFE or you are not. Kiss me like you mean it, give me a dick worshipping bbbj, at least make me think you enjoy my dining on you and it's GFE. I'm not the least bit interested in anything less if it's "GFE light". And anything less is.

Genuine imitation GFE. Kind of like that 'butter' they use on theater popcorn. Originally Posted by Ginger Doll

Or vegan "cheese" ... meh lol. Almost DOESN'T count lol.

@BK oh yeaaaahhh lol I think the 'Both or i'm not going' would be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy yyyy in the lead x-D.

1st off, I can't help but read SpankyJ's responses in Lord Tyrian's voice! LOL

Secondly... when a provider puts GFE, PSE or any other broad term it means very little to me. I find that you have to read the descriptive and honest reviews to make sure a provider can meet your needs. That coupled with the more direct activities like CBJ, BBJ, k9 etc... very little room for interpretation there.
I personally would like to see some terms for different types/levels of IOP!

I would also venture a guess that being in Arkansas has much to do with what certain guys will accept or put up with to see new girls.


Try this poll in say Dallas or Houston and see how different the results are. Originally Posted by BK

Agreed..being in arkansas and having to "play the game" certainly does impact what guys accept.. and yes..in dallas or houston etc this poll would require the OP to have extremely thick skin and the results would be very very different..its amazing what having options does to the business of escorting(hence why many ladies in arkansas never venture to the big markets of texas)

It would also drastically reduce the already small pool of options we have.

Let's face it, some are here for a major league GFE experience and some are just here to get their dick wet any way possible. Bc of that, some bad providers will find ways to eat. Originally Posted by RJinLR

I often forget that many guys haven't or don't get to experience the hobby outside of arkansas..when they do they realize what a wonderful world of options exist..I agree many just want some "strange" others want their money to mean something..choices are what make the hobby fun I suppose but while it may drastically reduce the already small pool of options..arkansas USE to be a huge traveling city for top notch ladies out of dallas etc..for some reason the gents here just haven't either been able to attract them or keep them coming back..it does require "loyal" guys to venture out and open the pocket book to attract the ladies from other areas(you can also think some local ladies for making sure your "pool" of choices stays low)

1st off, I can't help but read SpankyJ's responses in Lord Tyrian's voice! LOL

Secondly... when a provider puts GFE, PSE or any other broad term it means very little to me. I find that you have to read the descriptive and honest reviews to make sure a provider can meet your needs. That coupled with the more direct activities like CBJ, BBJ, k9 etc... very little room for interpretation there.
I personally would like to see some terms for different types/levels of IOP! Originally Posted by mwise

there is..its called you suck at GFE or PSE or you nailed GFE or PSE..should be no gray area

Problem is thats just it, GFE AND PSE use to mean something very specific and was very much attitude and atmosphere based with standard menu expectations and then the girl would add menu items as she saw fit to enhance an otherwise standard an EXPECTED menu based off being described as GFE or PSE. There was no inbetween other than you just sucked if you werent GFE or PSE haha...now guys have allowed girls more so in small markets to manipulate a standard to fit what they wanna deliver because as was stated above the already small pool of options limits what guys can do.


GFE: ATTITUDE, ATMOSPHERE should all make you feel like a girlfriend

1. BBBJ-STANDARD no exceptions
2. kissing-all forms
   • if she YMMV's this then premium rate should not be charged or review should reflect it
3. daty-yes she may fake it..but the guy will never know it if she is good
4. IOP-you should feel as if you are with a GF
   • NQNS,FACIALS,GREEK can be added to enhance menu

PSE: Attitude, Atmosphere should make you feel like a porn movie

1. BBBJ-standard no exceptions
   • facials,SWALLOW, cum on tits are common added menu items to enhance
2. kissing-all forms
3. daty-standard
4. IOP-should be that of a porn movie-WATCH PORN to figure it out
   • GREEK,Dirty Talk,Hair pulling, tuha/tuma, are all things that can be added to enhance PSE

Some may wonder..WTF is the difference..simple..ATTITUDE and ATMOSPHERE..basically the same menu, its simply how the product is delivered that makes it PSE or GFE. and sometimes in 1 date you can have both..

Good Lord, some of you are way the hell over analyzing this. As Ginger said way earlier, you are either GFE or you are not. Kiss me like you mean it, give me a dick worshipping bbbj, at least make me think you enjoy my dining on you and it's GFE. I'm not the least bit interested in anything less if it's "GFE light". And anything less is. Originally Posted by watchoutthegameisrigged

watchout, I respect your opinions as a much more experienced hobbyist, so please don't take this as any kind of challenge or criticism, or even disagreement with you, because I assure you I don't intend it that way. Your definition obviously has served you well in terms of getting what you need from the providers you see. My personal viewpoint is a bit different, but I certainly am not trying to tell anyone they should agree with me. It's just how I think of it.

Ginger also said:

It encompasses the activities that the average girlfriend would feel comfortable with, while also providing a genuine sense of intimacy, involvement, reciprocation and rapport that you'd only get with a girlfriend who's truly into you.

It's not just a list of activities, it's the ability of the provider to create the experience as a whole. Originally Posted by Ginger Doll

This part, what I would call the intangibles, is really, really important to me. I've come out of sessions (not many, thankfully) that included all the standard "GFE" activities and felt "meh" about them. Conversely, I've come out of ones that didn't include all those activities thinking "wow". Not many in either case, but it's happened. I don't have to call it GFE, or really put any identifier on it at all, but to my mind the success of the encounter is largely determined by which way I feel about it afterward. I don't always even know right in the moment. Sometimes it takes a little while to process. A telltale sign is when I realize I'm smiling to myself as I think over what just happened on the drive home, or later on in the day.

In a way I regret using the terminology I did for the poll topic, because while I've seen the "lite" modifier used, I didn't realize it was such a loaded term. But, it has also caused a good amount of spirited and usually thoughtful discussion, which I think this place can always use more of.

No offense taken.

Girlfriend experience is exactly as it's stated. What does your girlfriend provide? IOP is absolutely part of the equation. Also, Ever have a girlfriend not kiss you both lfk or dfk? How about bbbj or CBJ only? DATY? I have said this several times, bbbj, daty, and dfk are activities required for the GFE label. CBJ, no daty, and light kissing only is not close to gfe. What the hell is gfe lite? A marketing term to extract the most money by providing only minimal services. Trying to dupe new or unknowing hobbyist by using the gfe lite marketing ploy is imo similar to a verbal bait and switch.

First Year GFE

After 6 years, good luck

First Year GFE

After 6 years, good luck Originally Posted by Danielle Reid

And then there's 30 years WE (Wife Experience)...

And then there's 30 years WE (Wife Experience)... Originally Posted by SpankyJ

Is that where you pay me to laugh at your jokes then complain about a headache when the penis comes out?