I am retiring, thank TheOriginalDannie for her harassment and unending theories of bs. Now my security is at risk

Nah... I see a string of queen bee syndrome/drama posting drama playing out with a little sock-puppet encore/backup tossed in for good measure.

However, to be 100% fair, I do admit that's my individual perception of what I've read as I don't know either of you gals and I could be completely wrong. I've only seen the drama, accusations and persona you've each placed in this thread and it shaped that perception (caveat emptor). I doubt I'm the only hobbyist that prefers not to engage those types of encounters/people/risk when it's advertised so openly on a forum like this.

That being said, the beauty of this is we do all have choice of yay or nay toward each other based on what is hiding in plain sight between those very lines we read here. You know, the worst part of this all is I never thought the day would come when I would almost agree with steveinwinwood.

So.. in closing this e-encounter off, I seriously do hope you have a Happy Independence Day and the rest of your experience and time displayed on eccy isn't quite as dramatic or catty as this one was.


Btw: Tainted love... it's the best! ZYZYZY

Being one of the ones who happens to know both ladies, been out with both ladies, I haven't heard shit about this from either of them. It is sad to see, simply because I knew they were friendly, and for whatever reason that is now gone.

Not a single "Elysa said/did this" or "Dannie did/said this". Why it has erupted suddenly with comments about it being so abusive and talked about to others is a shock to me. Considering I text or PM with Dannie maybe weekly, comments that she is talking through back channels to everyone isn't quite true.

Though I am a no-one anyways.

And more importantly, women that are new enough to not have blacklisted your bitch ass yet. Originally Posted by addict

bahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa a

ok seriously,

Hey, I'm sorry for all ur troubles ladies. It sounds awful. Truly. I sincerely hope the dust settles quickly and left where it lie.

Guys, I wouldn't discount seeing either lady, in retirement or not. We all get fired up - especially about our private lives. This is a underground culture and sometimes ppl just need to vent and venting to our RW friends is not an option and this board is what folks are left with. C'est la vie and move on. We all love a good drama once in a while so don't be self-righteous. Just my 2.

Dannie and I have known each other for a long time, given the nature of our relationship we know each other's back story. She knows what I have done and what I have left undone, never a breath to anyone. She knows what is happening in my world both, RW and here , never a breath to anyone. If you are here you are fucked up, all of us but take it from someone who has hidden bodies in Southeast Asia, Central America and the Mideast I know it when I see it, Dannie is a Keeper of Confidences. Dannie outed no one.

Considering I text or PM with Dannie maybe weekly, comments that she is talking through back channels to everyone isn't quite true. Originally Posted by Boltfan

Quoted for posterity.

Thank you to everyone for the messages/texts of support

Dannie and I have known each other for a long time, given the nature of our relationship we know each other's back story. She knows what I have done and what I have left undone, never a breath to anyone. She knows what is happening in my world both, RW and here , never a breath to anyone. If you are here you are fucked up, all of us but take it from someone who has hidden bodies in Southeast Asia, Central America and the Mideast I know it when I see it, Dannie is a Keeper of Confidences. Dannie outed no one. Originally Posted by LuckJack

Again, quoted for posterity from someone who has actually met either party.

you!
OXOXO
~D.

Nah... I see a string of queen bee syndrome/drama posting drama playing out with a little sock-puppet encore/backup tossed in for good measure.

You know, the worst part of this all is I never thought the day would come when I would almost agree with steveinwinwood. Originally Posted by SD2011

Queen Bee? You mean the OP? I did not start this.

Sock puppet is an internet term for someone who has two handles and uses one to defend themselves X2.

Who are you saying is my other handle? I assure you, Cyborg, Pyramider, Boltfan, and LuckJack are real people. Please explain.

You agree with Steviewinwood? That says more about you than it does me.
Please explain why you agree that I am clearly a threat. 3rd grade reading comprehension would tell you that the OP lied from post #1. But I am the security risk? How, exactly? You seem to have all the answers.

You know, she has a male handle. That is a fact. She has Premium Access so this 'guesting' thing is crap, and Elysa Scott is her second or third handle anyway.... Perhaps you are the true sock puppet? Just an observation, as you have made as well.

If that was too many questions, please start by accusing any one of the aforementioned gentlemen as being my double handle or "sock puppet", as you put it. Otherwise I suggest you remain silent about terminology and things that you have no clue about, but want to involve yourself in.

If you'd like proof I'm real, I'd be more than happy to show you more proof than you could ever want.

Love,
~C

Supportive comments like the above and the following, are what keeps me going. They say more about me and my 'risk' and 'rep' than any silly hooker-board drama:

I was on ASPD from '01 to '03 before taking a 7 year hiatus due to a slight case of marriage.

I first saw Dannie during the same time frame. She was pretty much the de facto featured entertainer and ruler of a little club I frequented at the time. But the crowds around her were too thick for me to ever get closer than a couple of arms lengths. The place might have shut down without her (not really much of an exaggeration). Then I showed up here and found a nice surprise waiting for me. Originally Posted by eccienewbie

I go WAAAY back and this is a first. That is that.

If you'd like proof I'm real, I'd be more than happy to show you more proof than you could ever want.

Love,
~C Originally Posted by cyborg

RAWR! One "sock puppet" down.....

OXOXO
~D.

This thread is way too serious but then outing is serious. My money was always on Dannie, after all she survived The East Texas Captivity and took a Bronze Star with a V device in The Jerry Springer Wars. I am sad this happened to you kiddo as you know I am vicariously living through it, yes still no better. On a lighter note Ms Scott has preformed a service, because of her actions Dannie and Tara are making nice, OK they are being civil. Still it boggles the mind.

and stop calling me a sock puppet !

I don't know either of you ladies. I went by what I've read here and my opinions are (like assholes) purely my own. As I've already said, that doesn't mean I'm right.

Weird, but I didn't specifically say you were the sock puppet (yet eccy is rife with them and you just admitted it didn't you?), but, I guess if I go ahead and use some of your own unflappable yet twisted logic (as displayed earlier), one can only surmise that where there's sock-puppet smoke....there's sock puppet fire?

And to the others who stray into this mess of a thread, I apologize for even continuing with this mutual train wreck between two providers, but as a hobbyist I'm not buying into the fairly lame attempts to put lipstick on a pig....therefore that makes me a bad guy (btw, I'm quite okay with that!).

Also, for the white knights (yawn) & (apparent) sock puppet or two floating about here (if any), I do find your efforts somewhat entertaining, but at the end of the day, please understand I have no intention to kiss the ring and declare that someone is eccy sainthood. You all can, but for me that just isn't going to happen. As to cybored threats, I'm not very worried. I'm not even sure how you decided you were at issue?. However, lesser savvy folks here may buy into the self-promotion and veiled cyber threats, but I don't so...please don't pout.

Going back to my original point about this entire episode being bad for (both) of you. As a provider, you (and all providers) are primarily here to promote and sell a service. Given this series of posts, the claims, the personalization and vicious trashing, it doesn't look like a worthy service (to me). That's pretty much it and that's my own view and preference for risk/bs/drama aversion. That's me, mine, I own it...(freedom of choice/personal taste and all).

I do regret ever even reading, thinking or posting about that original post and the venom that followed between two providers who could each be lovely people (despite the vitriol you two had). So, I'm okay with letting it (the you/me interaction part here) go because there's more fish in the sea for us both and there's no need for you to require my agreement/nod for one party or the other since I'm just a wayward hobbyist. For us, we will never meet and I know you'll be just fine. So will I.....

Okay... you all are welcome to respond, not-respond, bash, or whatever... because I'm okay with being a bad bad man because I don't believe in one sided stories (like that trash above) and I think the truth of this entire episode is hiding somewhere in the middle and as a result of you both engaging in it here online in public...that both of you are at fault/losing from this mess (which was my original point). The pool beckons me, so clearly this is your thread now and I will move on. Have fun with it.

And as I said before... (seriously) please have a nice Independence Day!

So if I like a hand up my ass does that make me a sock puppet? Theoretically speaking only of course.

I find it funny when there is drama/ disagreement/ accusations going on on this board, some people mention that they have proof and be happy to share with mods, others, etc. I wonder if there are anyone who cares to know? This is not a trial, you don't have to prove to a judge or jury of your case. If you cannot solve a problem privately, maybe just let it go...move on and focus on other people/friends who you get along with instead. What is the use of posting publicly this private issue?

Nah... I see a string of queen bee syndrome/drama posting drama playing out with a little sock-puppet encore/backup tossed in for good measure.

However, to be 100% fair, I do admit that's my individual perception of what I've read as I don't know either of you gals and I could be completely wrong. I've only seen the drama, accusations and persona you've each placed in this thread and it shaped that perception (caveat emptor). I doubt I'm the only hobbyist that prefers not to engage those types of encounters/people/risk when it's advertised so openly on a forum like this.

That being said, the beauty of this is we do all have choice of yay or nay toward each other based on what is hiding in plain sight between those very lines we read here. You know, the worst part of this all is I never thought the day would come when I would almost agree with steveinwinwood.

So.. in closing this e-encounter off, I seriously do hope you have a Happy Independence Day and the rest of your experience and time displayed on eccy isn't quite as dramatic or catty as this one was.


Btw: Tainted love... it's the best! ZYZYZY Originally Posted by SD2011

You are delving into sock puppethood just by even semi-agreeing with steveinwinwood. That alone should make one pause and re-evaluate.

Who are you saying is my other handle? I assure you, Cyborg, Pyramider, Boltfan, and LuckJack are real people. Please explain.

If that was too many questions, please start by accusing any one of the aforementioned gentlemen as being my double handle or "sock puppet", as you put it. Otherwise I suggest you remain silent about terminology and things that you have no clue about, but want to involve yourself in. Originally Posted by TheOriginalDannie

Now missy, do not be putting me in the same category as being a real person with Cyborg, Boltfan, and Luckjack. Cyborg is a porn star. Boltfan does enjoy being fisted, just take off the jewelry first and he is all yours ... not that there is anything wrong with that. LuckJack is an old friend of yours. Me ... I am just another voice in Wayward's head according to an actual stincky sock puppet ... that was before St C issuing the Prime Directive.

If SD wishes to involve himself further into sock puppetdom and other hobby terms, I suggest he start his own thread and watch how it goes. But be sure to request taint photos to be posted in your thread.

hi all ~ enjoy the fireworks tonight <eom>