If someone is going thru a hard time would ECCIE clients help ?

ask around...

you have about as much business having a baby as a jack rabbit.

and many girls charge way too much for a massage and many don't have a clue as to what they are doing. you can do a great 50 minute massage with a happy ending for 4100- and 2 a day will keep the bill collector away.

I can appreciate the financial problems some are having. Hell, we all have to tighten our belts from time to time. But what bothers me is that when I am a little short on cash and long on needing a release I can never call a provider and ask them to front me a session for future payment. That would be taken as low-class and just plain wrong. My ATf's wouldn't even consider doing me a favor like that even though my combined tips over their asking rate would add up to freebees for a month. Just my .02.

But what bothers me is that when I am a little short on cash and long on needing a release I can never call a provider and ask them to front me a session for future payment. That would be taken as low-class and just plain wrong. My ATf's wouldn't even consider doing me a favor like that even though my combined tips over their asking rate would add up to freebees for a month. Just my .02. Originally Posted by jlttat

That is what I call a 100% Valid point.

Well i guess i have a lot to learn ! I'm hoping that i can met half of this smart women soon and just learn from you ladies !

I can appreciate the financial problems some are having. Hell, we all have to tighten our belts from time to time. But what bothers me is that when I am a little short on cash and long on needing a release I can never call a provider and ask them to front me a session for future payment. That would be taken as low-class and just plain wrong. My ATf's wouldn't even consider doing me a favor like that even though my combined tips over their asking rate would add up to freebees for a month. Just my .02. Originally Posted by jlttat

when money was falling from trees in 2000-2007 I would see 2-3 Providers a week and shell out 250-300 per session, ..fast forward 2010-2012, I see maybe 1 or 2 Providers a month and very few hour sessions.. did i ask for a discount no, I simply bought a $39.00 porno and jerked off for hours and hours...

you have about as much business having a baby as a jack rabbit.

and many girls charge way too much for a massage and many don't have a clue as to what they are doing. you can do a great 50 minute massage with a happy ending for 4100- and 2 a day will keep the bill collector away. Originally Posted by xane

Agreed, and I hear the complaints about those other girls quite often from my clients.
It's also about doing your own homework. For instance, I start under $, for a 60 minute, quality FBSM,
as stated in my reviews.
We are out there, and not too difficult to find.

Best of luck, I have to concur with a lot of what has been said. Yet at the end of the day game is sold not told. I have a good customer base and my bread and butter ride me through the tough times. (no pun intended) Dont forget to save save save!! As a seasoned provider, girl, like these folks have said, don't put your business like that out there.
You are opening yourself up to a personal invasion. Where is your baby daddie?? It takes two... There are the fellas who love that, and you could make some good money. But the men folk dont want to know such things. We are fantasys. Find a call service... Thats all the advice I can give for free. Seriously though, good luck girl. I wish the best.

PSW1995
Betty

I agree with homer make an ad saying you need bills paid and you are running specials or ask for a loan . Some clients wouldn't mind a little loan unti they are available for a session with you, well with your regulars at least Originally Posted by Super Head 713

Good Input ladies, I'm impressed with all the good bus tips ya'll r giving. Please keep them coming.........The following is for what it is worth and meant to be POSITIVE, not a lecture. In print I come off wrong sometimes.......

Quicksand approaching.......I concur TO A POINT.......allow me to expound upon this, stick with me. B Very, very careful with this. Many girls have been ripoff artists at this and been chased out of town (THANKFULLY). IF you ask for and accept a loan from a client YOU HAD BETTER MAKE SURE you are dilligent in taking care of them. YOUR REP( and future loans to save your ass) depends on it. And as they say in business, your word is your bond. HELL, I have gotten run over the coals for just flaking on 3 appts in 7 YEARS!!!! Imagine if any $ were involved!!!!!! Hahaha

I have taken loans many times to get me through BUT they were always from FAV CLIENTS who knew my character and would b flexible ( not TRIP OUT if the first time they calledand I couldn't meet). DOES HAPPEN, but clients can't be blamed for copping attitude sometimes because......... we are SOOOOO often in crisis, flakey, PMS, family issues, other jobs,car probs, sick animals, LIFE! Some of us are juggling numerous identities and roles......boohoo. <Can't I just move to Denmark and sit behind a plate-glass window? LOL That WOULD be the life!!!!!>

When I'm horny I don't wanna hear about your problems either ( unless you're naked!!!), so I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND why clients get snotty occasionally. LOL

And if you take a loan (JUST my 2cents), I would give them a little EXTRA attention in some way. You know, like interest on a loan! Return on Investment!!!!!!! LOL

Im not sure what providers it is your speaking of? Maybe your talking about some of the new ladies with gps! My rates have been the same ever since I first started as have many of the other veteran providers that I know well. In this hobby there are many ladies with different rates that can fit almost anyone's budget, so if a ladies rate is to high either move on or save up. Originally Posted by Britttany_love

YEAH BABY!!!! GPS!!!!!! NEVER heard that funny shit before (can you tell I'm on my 2nd martini cause I'M BORED!!!!!!!??????).

LIKE it's some PRECIOUS thing to be guarded and SAVED??????? That just grows cobwebs on it!!!! I WEAR THAT SHIT OUT!!!! If my hoohaa can birth a basketball (WILL NEVER HAPPEN, by the way) then OBVIOUSLY it was meant to be used! NOT to mention that my first session of the day just serves as a WARM UP. Women can go for HOURS- we're Energizer Bunnies. The gift that keeps on giving........YEAH.

IMHO if it is common wise advice to Gift but Never Loan money to family members or friends (Assuming you want to keep them) then it only makes sense to Never "loan" money to a provider unless it comes with a written interest bearing contract just like any other business loan.

If you want to gift money fine but only an idiot would create a paperless long term contract with Anyone whether they be a hooker or someone you just met in a bar.

It's called common business sense. These ladies aren't our girlfriends. It's called GFE for a reason. Every time I see an alert posted about some Monger not being able to collect I think "GOOD! You deserved it Moron". I think the same thing whenever I see a blonde running up the stairs instead of out the door when there is a serial killer in the house. I'm rooting for her right up until that bright move. Then I start rooting for the killer thinking it's time to thin the herd.

As Jlttat pointed, out if it is absurd for a Monger to expect a loaner BCD session up front how the hell is it any less absurd to do the same in reverse especially when hard earned cash is at stake?

At least loaning a session would Not leave a provider out of pocket if the monger flakes. Pissed off yes but poorer no.

Nice ad!

Nice ad! Originally Posted by Still Looking

They are all ads but if the OP was one your ATF's you wouldn't comment or you would WK them......

welcome back....

sixx

They are all ads but if the OP was one your ATF's you wouldn't comment or you would WK them......

welcome back....

sixx Originally Posted by sixxbach

If she was one of my ATF'S do you really thinck she would posting an ad like this?